The Model S is unchanged in much the same way the Porsche 911 hasn't changed in the last 10 years. It actually has changed, and the 2021+ refresh interior is entirely new (minus the seat rails, I kid you not).
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Tesla Design Chief on Apple Products: 'There's Nothing to Look Forward To'
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The Model S is unchanged in much the same way the Porsche 911 hasn't changed in the last 10 years. It actually has changed, and the 2021+ refresh interior is entirely new (minus the seat rails, I kid you not).
so compare a iPhone 5 to the iPhone 13 and tell me that the model S has changed more. Tesla updates their products in the same way
maybe apple just needs to announce their products 3 years before they are capable of making them.
well i think the guy accidently sayd Apple instead of Tesla
I guess if Apple really wanted to take back the innovative crown, they could put out a bunch of "Knowledge Navigator" style demos for stuff that is years away from shipping and take deposits on pre-orders and keep kicking the can down the road by moving the goalposts when customers get squirrelly.
In all seriousness, most people confuse innovation with novelty. The changes most people want see are novelties. e.g. new screen sizes, multiple camera sensors, different data ports, colors, shapes, materials, etc. Innovation changes fundamental business models and disrupt the way we do things. e.g. mobile touch screens devices, new operating system paradigms, the AppStore, wireless networking, AR/VR glasses, AI/Machine learning. Smart Agents, etc. Some novelty features can be technologically innovative in ways that make them more efficient, cost advantageous, and useful, but still not resonate with consumers who are looking for more obvious subjective changes in a product line rather than objectively improved products that outwardly look the same as their predecessors.
In all seriousness, most people confuse innovation with novelty. The changes most people want see are novelties. e.g. new screen sizes, multiple camera sensors, different data ports, colors, shapes, materials, etc. Innovation changes fundamental business models and disrupt the way we do things. e.g. mobile touch screens devices, new operating system paradigms, the AppStore, wireless networking, AR/VR glasses, AI/Machine learning. Smart Agents, etc. Some novelty features can be technologically innovative in ways that make them more efficient, cost advantageous, and useful, but still not resonate with consumers who are looking for more obvious subjective changes in a product line rather than objectively improved products that outwardly look the same as their predecessors.
When you're already at the top of the food chain... where else is there to go?
Secondly, iterative design is a perfectly viable approach, and clearly extremely successful. Consumers are comfortable purchasing a new Apple device because they know exactly what they are getting into ... a familiar environment. It's a smart approach.
Compare that to Windows, or worse, Outlook. Have you seen how different one version of Outlook is from others? It's an absolutely chaotic mess! Businesses don't upgrade for years and years because of the fear of having to re-learn everything again.
Secondly, iterative design is a perfectly viable approach, and clearly extremely successful. Consumers are comfortable purchasing a new Apple device because they know exactly what they are getting into ... a familiar environment. It's a smart approach.
Compare that to Windows, or worse, Outlook. Have you seen how different one version of Outlook is from others? It's an absolutely chaotic mess! Businesses don't upgrade for years and years because of the fear of having to re-learn everything again.
Why does innovation have to be defined by big visible changes at least once a year? Apple's brilliance in innovation is delivering year after year of smooth transitions, not jolting differences. Look at 2021 compared to 2001. In 20 years (yes, just 20 years!), Apple has CHANGED the world dramatically! I think people forget that.
I agree regarding intricacies. But that is kind of my point. For the same reason people criticize the cheese greater Mac or the current iMac 27 inch, even though there’s a lot of intricacies that have changed in those products over the years while they were out (or are out for the 27” iMac) people weren’t excited about them anymore. And I believe this is what he is criticizing Apple for. Tons of intricacies have occurred in the phone models and various computers, but they frequently stay in the same exterior. I think Tesla is guilty of the very thing he is criticizing Apple for. The S did finally get more noticeable styling changes last year, but it took a decade. And unless you’re a member of the Tesla fan club, you may still have trouble differentiating a 2022 Tesla S from a 2013 (visually). The “excitement” in the EV world is becoming the vast selection of truly new vehicles from everyone BUT Tesla. GM, Ford, Rivian, lucid, BMW, Porsche, Audi , and many more- real vehicles, including trucks, to be excited about. Tesla‘s new exciting vehicle is a truck that is continuously pushed into the future. So I find his remarks to be very hypocritical.
You are referring to Samsung who was Apple’s iPhone's top supplier?
Samsung Will Be Apple's Top Supplier For iPhones Again In 2017
At the end of the day, despite the rivalry and legal battles, the top two smartphone makers need each other.www.forbes.com
How does this in any way relate to what I said?
Once again I am bested by impeccable logic and unassailable points. I tip my hat to you.
Netscape is not gone. It became Mozilla Firefox, a return to a simple, performant browser. Today's browsers still have "navigator" as a core concept in JavaScript, which was directly tied to Netscape's Navigator identity.
Rule of thumb about Apple... never underestimate them. Every company or person that has usually ends up being wrong eventually.
It’s called prioritising supply and demand in a presently supply constrained world; have some perspective
As opposed to your gem of impeccable insight
Yea, you’re right, Tesla is selling more than a million units a year of vapourware. Congratulations, here’s your coloured pencil cup ?
Absolutely, they both have, but try telling that to the one-eyed zealots that infest these forums ?
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The same constraints under which Ford has developed a truck - that drives, and is entering production. And Rivian, and GMC’s Hummer . . . - and numerous other non-truck EV launches by manufacturers that are also more than vapor/hype. Perspective ?
And their producing dozens of them, if any at all, at this time, while losing money on them. Congratulations
are you serious? the model S has not changed in 10 years...
Everywhere else they do. Even in India they are not ready to set up assembly or manufacturing but want tax breaks to start selling.
That just means they want to sell China made cars without import duties.
My thoughts exactly.
I can't believe that Tesla gets away with charging people for a feature that isn't even close to reality. I guess people can "look forward to them" but eventually they need to release it.