Tesla Launches $300 AirPower-Like Wireless Charger That Can Power Three Qi Devices at Once

[geartau]

Volume is everything.


To which I agreed:

not relevant to the argument.

Planned 100k units in 2017 and delivered less than 2% of that...

1. argument is whether they can ship the product or if they are late in doing so. you said all were late, however they shipped Model 3 on time (was actually early as they shipped it mid 2017 even though they announced end of "next year") and Model Y several months early.
2. 100k in 2017 was not a target Elon announced (and also, irrelevant)

 

[geartau]

but the technology wasn't up to their standards. They had the guts to admit that and not release a product that they invested money and time into.

And Tesla cancelled their Model 3 $35k variant and Model Y SR because they said the range wouldn't be up to their standards.

Not sure what your point is about that.

 

[geartau]

So?

Apple has been using MagSafe for over two years so there is zero reason for them to release AirPower.

yet they continue to work on it https://appleinsider.com/articles/2...apple-keeps-developing-a-multi-device-charger

 

[geartau]

Well given the Y and Semi are flops, and 3 is already being heavily discounted to drive demand, I don't think it's much to be excited about.

Model Y is a flop? What? https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/teslas-model-y-passes-top-sellers-global-rankings

Tesla's margins are the highest in the industry. Saying 3 is discounted is like saying Apple is doomed for slashing $10 off of iPhone's price.

Especially true when people are cancelling their Tesla orders to see what happens with the EV rebtae next year.

 

[NightFox]

Apple made a charger, but the technology wasn't up to their standards. They had the guts to admit that and not release a product that they invested money and time into.

Tesla incorporated 3rd-party technology (hint: not theirs!) that has already proven to be frustrating to use for some people.

That spin is sheer brilliance, probably some of the best I've read on MacRumors in 17+ years. You should work for Apple PR or go into politics. If I can criticise, I think the only thing missing was the word 'courage' in your first paragraph.

 

[ilikewhey]

Everyone else. Tesla's market cap is essentially the same as Toyota, BYD, Porsche and Volkswagen combined. That is based on the assumption that they will grow to dominate those companies, so that's the competition. BYD is probably a special case, so you can substitute BMW and Honda in for BYD.

Tesla basically had first mover advantage and got to where they are because the rest of the industry was slow to pivot to electric. That's changed. The industry seems to have figured out that electric is the future, and they're ramping up. Tesla is a technology company that makes cars and they're going to have to compete with car companies that merely need to adopt technology. Electric motors and chemical batteries aren't a niche field.

Apple is going to face the same problem if they think cars are going to be the next big thing for them. There are a minority of buyers that get excited by car tech, but most of them just want to buy something that will reliably get them to and from work for the next 10 years.

and in that regards, tesla is easily ahead of the rest by at least 5-10 years, legacy auto has pivoted but to even remotely catch up to tesla's level of efficiency, you're looking at very efficient vertical integration, something thats even remotely close to 4680 battery's energy density, carbon wrapped motors, gigapress, etc.

sure byd is doing better than tesla, but thats in china, in fact they hardly cater to the western market, nor do they have a strong marketing presence like tesla, and with the increasing anti ccp sentiment on the raise, the status quo won't change.

not to mention tesla is so ahead of everyone in terms of autonomous driving its not even a competition at the moment, they have such a advantage in data collection due to how much more vehicles they have on the road before anyone else. the only hope for other brands to catch up is working with 3rd parties like nvidia and intel's mobile eye.

 

[shakerstevens]

Not particularly a tesla fan my self, but no need for so much hate on this post. At least they managed to release this kind of product. It looks quite good too, although I would prefer it in Apple white.

 

[NightFox]

Why do I feel like this charger got inspired by Apple's own AirPower? Oh, wait! It did 🤦‍♀️

Are you trying to imply that taking inspiration from a failed product and making it work is a bad thing?

What to do if you have to charge an Apple Watch? 😩

There are more phones and devices in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

 

[ApplesAreSweet&Sour]

I read somewhere that Elon Musk is making these by hand just to have MR write about it and incite rage in the comments section.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

When I first saw this article pop up, I viewed it simply as a 300 quid phone charger and its not something that interests me or something I need. That is about as deep and relevant as this product is for me. I think people need to look past what company makes it and judge it for what it is and whether its relevant to them. We probably buy products from companies that are guilty of awful practises/collaborations etc that we may not have knowledge of and lets face it, Apple are not squeaky clean. Does this charger do anything for you? It shouldn't really be any harder than that.

 

[Compile 'em all]

Yeah, I'll never buy a Tesla product now – car or phone charger. I was a fan of Musk in years past but all this Twitter stuff has made me realize he's just an entitled narcissistic buffoon. I see someone driving a Tesla now and my gut instinct is that they are as narcissistic and insecure and assholish as Musk. That's not fair to them – and not accurate across all Tesla drivers, but it just goes to show how Musk has tarnished the Tesla brand through his antics.

“Steve Jobs summoned the entire MobileMe team for a meeting at the company's on-campus Town Hall, accusing everyone of "tarnishing Apple's reputation." He told the members of the team they "should hate each other for having let each other down", and went on to name new executives on the spot to run the MobileMe team.”

"Can anyone tell me what MobileMe is supposed to do?" Having received a satisfactory answer, he continues, "So why the f*** doesn't it do that?"

 

[NightFox]

It's interesting that people always seemed capable of differentiating between the products created by Steve Jobs' Apple and the often unpleasant personal traits and actions of the man himself - yet when it comes to other companies' products and their CEOs, the two are intrinsically linked.

 

[Satch111]

No the stock is still over priced. 😂

Right now the only thing on sale at Tesla is their stock price

 

[Satch111]

That is a dumb assumption to make about a driver, especially if they are just trying to do good for the planet, the reality is everyone not driving an electric car is a buffoon.

Yeah, I'll never buy a Tesla product now – car or phone charger. I was a fan of Musk in years past but all this Twitter stuff has made me realize he's just an entitled narcissistic buffoon. I see someone driving a Tesla now and my gut instinct is that they are as narcissistic and insecure and assholish as Musk. That's not fair to them – and not accurate across all Tesla drivers, but it just goes to show how Musk has tarnished the Tesla brand through his antics.

 

[cyb3rdud3]

Ugly like their cars, overpriced like their cars, but despite that I'm sure it will sell well. Let's hope it is not bad quality like the rest of their products for those who do buy this.

 

[cyb3rdud3]

That is a dumb assumption to make about a driver, especially if they are just trying to do good for the planet, the reality is everyone not driving an electric car is a buffoon.

LOL I bet some Tesla car buyers really believe that 😂

 

[ApplesAreSweet&Sour]

It's interesting that people always seemed capable of differentiating between the products created by Steve Jobs' Apple and the often unpleasant personal traits and actions of the man himself - yet when it comes to other companies' products and their CEOs, the two are intrinsically linked.

Well, I don’t think it’s that surprising to see so much hate for Elon when he’s posting his stream of consciousness and close to every human interaction he has on social media several times a day, and has been doing so even before buying the Twitter.

CEOs, billionaires, and celebrities are smart to keep strategically quiet as to not reveal their shortcomings, flaws that everyone has.

Steve Jobs, Tim Cook and Jeff Bezos also get tons of hate, even post mortem for Jobs. But they’ll never see the level that Musk does because they aren’t letting it all hang out every day for everyone to scrutinize.

Love or hate Musk, most of the hate is his own doing -You can’t be a billionaire CEO who lets the public this close and not expect extreme attention and views on your person.

But, considering his equally large army of fanboys, he benefits from the scrutiny just as much as it hurts him.

 

[tny]

Ah. right, from the company whose cars have a reputation for catching fire when they're overcharged.

 

[ds2000]

I love the Elon hate, I don’t feel one way or the other. However, if this thing works and doesn’t overheat then I say well done to them.

 

[tny]

Smells like a test for FreePower: If the supplier relation works, maybe they'll start putting FreePower tech in cars to better support different device sizes.

(I have been using FreePower for over a year with Nomad charging station: It works, but is less efficient than MagSafe. Also, it sometimes heats the devices up a lot - apparently depends on exact position)

That's why they cancelled the AirPower - if the charging device isn't placed exactly right, a lot of the energy builds up in the charging coils as heat. If a battery gets too hot.

 

[enterthemerdaverse]

That is a dumb assumption to make about a driver, especially if they are just trying to do good for the planet, the reality is everyone not driving an electric car is a buffoon.

That seems true and then fact check it.

Electric cars are powered mostly by coal. So no carbon footprint saving.

Batteries lose capacity over time. Everyone who has owned a laptop or phone knows this. The batteries are toxic and difficult to dispose of and electric cars have a lot of it.

So the reality is that electric cars need something better like on demand hydro or on demand fusion, which is far away.

 

[enterthemerdaverse]

That's why they cancelled the AirPower - if the charging device isn't placed exactly right, a lot of the energy builds up in the charging coils as heat. If a battery gets too hot.

The AirPower was an ultra slim charging mat that was as thin as the lightning connector. Super hard to pull off and nobody has been able to pull off that form factor reliably.

 

[siri_3005]

$300? I might as well just stick with my normal chargers or buy a literal Dodge Charger.

 

[darngooddesign]

yet they continue to work on it https://appleinsider.com/articles/2...apple-keeps-developing-a-multi-device-charger

That's not the evidence you think it is. The point of AirPower was that you didn't have to guess at the best charging location for more than one device, but MagSafe eliminates this need by always guaranteeing your device is perfectly aligned for the best charging. AirPower was supposed to fulfill this need, a need which hasn't existed for two years.

As the article says, the MagSafe Duo pad is their multiple device charger.

 

[Starship77]

I don’t understand all the hate, seriously. I guess one can do a lot for climate change, space exploration, artificial inteligence, etc. But if you don’t like a thing or two they say, they’re the worst and deserve to rot in hell… 🤷‍♂️