Tesla Unveils $35,000 Model 3 Electric Car, Shipping Late 2017

[beanbaguk]

Please support your assertions with actual citations and facts. My Model S battery has degraded a mere 2% in almost 3 years of use in the Arizona desert. Your misguided statements have no basis in fact. My car is rated 265 miles EPA and I achieve better than EPA range every single day in normal driving.

Please get your facts before saying things that are patently untrue.
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I purchased a Model S without ever having driven one. Best car I've ever owned.

"Best" is subjective. The Model S has had a multitude of problems in early versions including build quality issues, software problems, etc....

Don't get me wrong. The Model S is a fantastic car but early versions had their issues. It's one thing pre-ordering a new phone or laptop, but a $35,000 car is another thing....

 

[Solomani]

So you are the other shooter on the grassy knoll?

Oh, now I know who stole my hat, my precious precious hat! Hat baby, hat baby!

 

[NachoGrande]

You could stick a number plate on the front like most countries do.
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Considering it is an ex Mazda designer doing the design at Tesla these days, it is hardly surprising.

We are not "most countries" and not all states have front plates so why would I put a plate on it. Not to mention that there's not in an indent for it.

 

[MacBH928]

why is Tesla is held in high regard compared to other electric car manufacturers? Whats special here?

 

[AppleScruff1]

For the better of publicity stunts! Tesla doesn't want to save the planet, Tesla wants to build a billion dollar company on the hopes and dreams of environmentalists. Prior to Tesla there were affordable electric cars and car makers tried to make them even more affordable. Not so Tesla, they said we will build an electric sports car. It can be super fast, long range and quick loading as long as wasted resources and money is not a problem. They lifted the electric car out of average people's price range and then tricked investors to believe, prices will come down as soon as we start mass production of the car technology nobody can afford. We have every reason to believe this will end in an epic fail, especially as so many people put their faith in it and so very few apply critical thinking.

You're right, everyone is out to get you.

 

[spinedoc77]

But the specs won't be similar, that's exactly the point. And it's not even clear if the electric car for the masses is about to become real this time or not. We are earliest in the first iPhone stage of development in the electric car revolution and you should consider yourself lucky, if you get to choose between a black and a white Tesla 3. Assuming of course that this is the breakthrough vehicle Elon Musk pretends it to be. Otherwise you've bought yourself a nice Nokia Symbian smartphone shortly before the company disappeared. There are way more important questions to ask than if the look is appealing. Let's start with: Will the Tesla 3 development lead the company into bankruptcy? Can the car make a profit at $35K? Will building supercharger stations become a taxpayer supported endeavor around the world? And so on. No one really cares if you like the look of it.

Yet still the aesthetic appeal will be tremendously important, as it always has been with vehicles. I understand your point about the risk, but if everyone thought that way well then Tesla wouldn't have 115k pre orders. Someone somewhere has to take the risk until Tesla proves themselves. Heck you can always lease and give it back in 3 years.

 

[smacrumon]

why is Tesla is held in high regard compared to other electric car manufacturers? Whats special here?

Tesla is held in high regard because people value their proposition. They are the only car manufacturer that deals solely in electric vehicles, they don't have any combustion engine vehicles in their range. They are also starting with a clear and honourable mission to rid the auto world of petrol, oil, coolant and other such nonsense. They offer the best product in its category, an all electric vehicle that is aesthetically beautiful, making it available to the masses at a reasonable price. This makes Tesla not only special, but entirely unique.

 

[GTDaveMac]

To all of you that is crying about how the interior screen looks ugly. This is a prototype. Model S and X prototyoes had the same thing. It is not a safe future to have a screen sticking out like that with those edges. Like Model S and X it will most likely be integrated in to the panel. Interior will likely be different also. There are no interior pictures on Tesla`s website.

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For the better of publicity stunts! Tesla doesn't want to save the planet, Tesla wants to build a billion dollar company on the hopes and dreams of environmentalists. Prior to Tesla there were affordable electric cars and car makers tried to make them even more affordable. Not so Tesla, they said we will build an electric sports car. It can be super fast, long range and quick loading as long as wasted resources and money is not a problem. They lifted the electric car out of average people's price range and then tricked investors to believe, prices will come down as soon as we start mass production of the car technology nobody can afford. We have every reason to believe this will end in an epic fail, especially as so many people put their faith in it and so very few apply critical thinking.

I respectfully disagree. Starting at the top end was the only way to succeed with today's political and economical auto/oil industry situation. Do you think 200k+ people would have given Tesla $1k ten years ago? Doubt it.

Here's a great article on how Tesla will change the world:
http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/06/how-tesla-will-change-your-life.html

 

[smacrumon]

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I respectfully disagree. Starting at the top end was the only way to succeed with today's political and economical auto/oil industry situation. Do you think 200k+ people would have given Tesla $1k ten years ago? Doubt it.

Here's a great article on how Tesla will change the world:
http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/06/how-tesla-will-change-your-life.html

I think the interior of the Model 3 is essentially perfect. So simple without any bling and trinkets. It's a marked improvement over the Model S and Model X production cars. The implementation of such a large display looks dorky on the Model S and Model X mounted inside the dash, so the Model 3 which has the display hovering lightly away from the dash looks rather swell. Safety is an issue, and I'm sure they must be testing this aspect, but the display doesn't protrude anywhere near as the steering wheel does. I just hope that if there are interior changes that none of the clean lines are disturbed.

 

[XboxMySocks]

I've no idea how so many people sign up to a new car without reading the road tests and reviews first! Lunacy!

However having said all that I will most likely replace my diesel with one of these. I drive 600 miles a week so for me it would be a complete game changer.

It's a $1.000 refundable deposit to be in line to purchase the car.

 

[nando87]

Ugly exterior, ugly interior and I have no interest at all in the enviroment. I'll pass, I prefer a good sounding and good looking AMG. I suppose that if you are "green", you have children and the correct budget it's a nice choice. What I like about these cars selling big is that they'll make my cars and the cars I like more exotic.

 

[smacrumon]

Ugly exterior, ugly interior and I have no interest at all in the enviroment. I'll pass, I prefer a good sounding and good looking AMG.

AMG has an ugly exterior, (and an even more) ugly interior and I have no interest in destruction of the environment whatsoever. I'll pass on AMG. I prefer a great looking Tesla Model 3 any day.

 

[nando87]

AMG has an ugly exterior, (and an even more) ugly interior and I have no interest in destruction of the environment whatsoever. I'll pass on AMG. I prefer a great looking Tesla Model 3 any day.

You have no taste. There are ugly and nice AMGs, but there are only meh (model s) and ugly (the rest) Teslas.

I like Ferrari too, not only AMG.

If you think a model 3 is good looking then you should be a very special person. Short sleeve shirts with tie, hipster, or what?

 

[smacrumon]

You have no taste. There are ugly and nice AMGs, but there are only meh (model s) and ugly (the rest) Teslas.

I like Ferrari too, not only AMG.

Nah, I have great taste. Any particular model AMG? Personally, the AMG is mess inside, the Ferrari also looks messy. If I wanted a car that had so many cut outs on the body, I'd drive a slab of Swiss cheese.

 

[nando87]

Nah, I have great taste. Any particular model AMG? Personally, the AMG is mess inside, the Ferrari also looks messy. If I wanted a car that had so many cut outs on the body, I'd drive a slab of Swiss cheese.

The SL 55 and SL 65 R230 first restyling, SL65 r230 2nd restyling black series, the SLS, the 1st C63 W204, S63 W221 and W222, all the CLSs, W222 coupe s63 AMG, CLK 63 Black Series W209, the new GT (in person, in pictures it doesn't look that good), Ferrari F12 and FF, all the pre 2010 front engined, and I could go on and on... and just talking about recent cars.

Seriously, Tesla is insipid design wise. They look like futuristic cars from pre 2000s. They could have appeared in the Demolition Man movie

For the same price you could buy a

...

 

[smacrumon]

The SL 55 and SL 65 R230 first restyling, SL65 r230 2nd restyling black series, the SLS, the 1st C63 W204, S63 W221 and W222, all the CLSs, CLK 63 Black Series W209, the new GT (in person, in pictures it doesn't look that good), Ferrari F12 and FF, all the pre 2010 front engined, and I could go on and on... and just talking about recent cars.

Seriously, Tesla is insipid design wise. They look like futuristic cars from pre 2000s. They could have appeared in the Demolition Man movie

Thanks, good to put some model numbers to some vehicles I've seen. But nah, these are tasteless with a possible exception for the FF, but that's spoilt by the very poor interior (mis-)treatments. These all represent vehicles with an old notion of car design that sit outside the realm of great modern designs or even classic designs. But that's just my opinion.

 

[Suture]

I bought a new Prius a few years ago. Thought the center-mounted display was strange at first, but got used to it very quickly.

 

[nando87]

Thanks, good to put some model numbers to some vehicles I've seen. But nah, these are tasteless with a possible exception for the FF, but that's spoilt by the very poor interior (mis-)treatments. These all represent vehicles with an old notion of car design that sit outside the realm of great modern designs or even classic designs. But that's just my opinion.

Cool story bro

 

[smacrumon]

The SL 55 and SL 65 R230 first restyling, SL65 r230 2nd restyling black series, the SLS, the 1st C63 W204, S63 W221 and W222, all the CLSs, W222 coupe s63 AMG, CLK 63 Black Series W209, the new GT (in person, in pictures it doesn't look that good), Ferrari F12 and FF, all the pre 2010 front engined, and I could go on and on... and just talking about recent cars.

Seriously, Tesla is insipid design wise. They look like futuristic cars from pre 2000s. They could have appeared in the Demolition Man movie

For the same price you could buy a

...

Black looks good, it does on most cars. BUT... Open the bonnet to a treasure trove of bloatware from the last century. That's what the other problem is with these cars.
Tesla Model 3 in black. Delicious.

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Cool story bro

Absent of the unnecessary bling and trinkets. Awesome.

 

[beanbaguk]

It's a $1.000 refundable deposit to be in line to purchase the car.

Read my previous posts....

 

[smacrumon]

Read my previous posts....

If you don't follow through with the purchase, Tesla will refund the deposit anyway.

 

[jlc1978]

It has more to do with where you live. Nowhere in the reservation form did it even list options, let alone ask me to select them. Once my number comes up, they'll build it to order.

I based that on the statement in the order form:

While this Reservation secures the approximate delivery priority within your region

i.e. Tesla is free to move you up or down based on their needs.
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Good lord, eat someplace different for a change. Or just top off and stretch your legs for 20 minutes. The Supercharger recharges the battery to around 70% in 30 minutes. A full charge takes longer. "Range anxiety" folks are just inventing problems. It's laughable.

Perhaps, but it is a very real reason EV's haven't caught on; once that is adequately addressed we'll see a much higher adoption rate.
As for your eat elsewhere comment, expecting people to change behaviors to sell a product that they have misgivings about generally does not work.

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I remember when running low on gas on a lonely road in the middle of the night was a big deal. You couldn't just check GasBuddy to find the nearest station, and if you did find one, you had to sleep in your car until it opened in the morning. This lack of fuel availability is why ICE car adoption didn't really take off until the 1990s. Until then it was just a niche product.

LOL. Except most people didn't drive lonely back roads late at night, they drove major highways were gas was readily available, when they wanted it, a situation EV's have not yet duplicated with charging.

 

[smacrumon]

I based that on the statement in the order form:

While this Reservation secures the approximate delivery priority within your region

i.e. Tesla is free to move you up or down based on their needs.
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Perhaps, but it is a very real reason EV's haven't caught on; once that is adequately addressed we'll see a much higher adoption rate.
As for your eat elsewhere comment, expecting people to change behaviors to sell a product that they have misgivings about generally does not work.

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LOL. Except most people didn't drive lonely back roads late at night, they drove major highways were gas was readily available, when they wanted it, a situation EV's have not yet duplicated with charging.

I think range anxiety is a real thing, but it's an unnecessary form of fear. The Model 3 is quoted at 215 miles before requiring a charge. Who is actually driving 215 miles in one go? A lot of people everyday are driving with less than 50 miles of gas in their tank. There's no issue with range on the Model 3.

 

[vooke]

Tesla is a fake front company to keep back electric car production, and an insult to Nikola Tesla. Volkswagen and Mini electric car production and sales would have both been in full swing if it weren't for a nefarious cabal keeping it all reined in. You'll scoff, but electric cars have been around for more than a century. You'll say it's due to battery size that they haven't ever been mass produced, but this would not have been an issue if there would have been charging stations set up everywhere. Elon Musk is a con-front-man for oil interests.

Alex Jones would blush at your eloquence

 

[Suture]

Black looks good, it does on most cars. BUT... Open the bonnet to a treasure trove of bloatware from the last century. That's what the other problem is with these cars.
Tesla Model 3 in black. Delicious.

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Absent of the unnecessary bling and trinkets. Awesome.

Agreed. I'm looking forward to seeing how these fare after the first year or so.