It is a Windows machine. Apple supports Windows on it. It's just not a Linux, FreeBSD, etc machine.
I'll bet a fix in the Boot Camp drivers is coming soon. Obviously macOS is going to be top priority for them.
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Tests Confirm Apple's Throttling Fix Improves Performance for 2018 MacBook Pro Models [Updated]
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I'll bet a fix in the Boot Camp drivers is coming soon. Obviously macOS is going to be top priority for them.
Apology for what? Correct me if I'm wrong here, but weren't the youtubers who ganged up on the #throttlegate mob showing exactly what the MBP was doing? Throttling and overheating. Not functioning properly. So you're saying they should apologize for drawing attention to an issue that Apple acknowledges was an issue. An issue Apple says they didn't even realize they had. An issue that, because of all that attention, got fixed PDQ. I mean Super PDQ fixed.
I'm guessing by apology you meant a "thanks for bringing this to our attention so we could fix it" type of apology.
It should have been perfect day 1. Apple is not Dell. Apple is flawless and can do no wrong.
"Lee went even further and tested six laptops equipped with an i9 from various manufacturers. Unsurprisingly, thicker laptops with better cooling did outperform thinner laptops, including the MacBook Pro. The Alienware 17 R4, Acer Helios 500, and Asus G703 (all very thick) saw higher average clock loads.
The Dell XPS 15 and the Zenbook Pro were right on par with the 2018 MacBook Pro."
Umm did we watch the same video????? Put down the Fanboy!!!
Seriously the thicker laptops CRUSHED the Macbook Pro, achieving 4.5-5.0ghz through the tests and NEVER throttling. The Macbook Pro was stuck at the base speed so not to throttle. He also said that ASUS and the Dell were FASTER because they were slightly thicker and he also said the Macbook was the slowest of the 6 but the quietest.
So if you want the slowest, most expensive, but thinnest and quietest get the Macbook.
The Dell XPS 15 and the Zenbook Pro were right on par with the 2018 MacBook Pro."
Umm did we watch the same video????? Put down the Fanboy!!!
Seriously the thicker laptops CRUSHED the Macbook Pro, achieving 4.5-5.0ghz through the tests and NEVER throttling. The Macbook Pro was stuck at the base speed so not to throttle. He also said that ASUS and the Dell were FASTER because they were slightly thicker and he also said the Macbook was the slowest of the 6 but the quietest.
So if you want the slowest, most expensive, but thinnest and quietest get the Macbook.
Solid news for everyone. Great job Apple making a quick fix. Give credit to the YouTubers for discovering the problem. Looks like the MacBook Pros are solid upgrades.
I hope that the new Mac Pro is not designed with unnecessary thermal constraints and gimped graphics that hamper the design.
I hope that the new Mac Pro is not designed with unnecessary thermal constraints and gimped graphics that hamper the design.
“Slowest” is a bit misleading. It’s not an i3. And good arguments can be made for thin and quiet. But, I’d probably go with the Dell.
No, it's an INTEL machine, and Apple provides a way to run windows on it, and with VMWare Fusion (or Parallels) you can run other OSs as well, including Linux. That doesn't make it a "Linux machine" any more than running an emulator on a PC makes it a Super Nintendo.
"Intel CPU" isn't the one defining characteristic of the hardware. Apple provides Windows-specific support in their Boot Camp drivers packages. Booting Windows is the same as booting Linux, but Linux won't get proper support for things like the GPU, keyboard/display/audio controls, and cooling that Apple actively implements for Windows.
Of course, you can YOLO it and install Linux anyway. I did that on my 2006 iMac back in the day. I got lucky and (I think) encountered no issues other than the stupid swap partition I had to use `gparted` to delete.
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Yup. Absolutely zero interest in a noisy and thick/heavy GameBook Pro running windows.
Apple hit the sweet spot for me. And millions of others.
Who are you responding to here? Nobody was nobody was claiming the MBP was able to stay in Turbo state at max load. Yes, the thick laptops with better cooling will be faster thanks to Turbo Boost.
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I really don't understand the idea of pushing for cutting edge performance at every cost, unless you're a pro who specifically needs that. I used to use a 2006 MacBook at school, and it was way more productive than the high-end 2012 i7 Dell laptop they provided since that had a garbo keyboard and trackpad with Windows. Plus the MacBook was way lighter.
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I was wondering about this. This test maxes out all CPU cores, right? If so, something is wrong. Maybe your i7 is staying in Turbo state forever?
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Cooling is still severely underengineered, the Core i9 is probably an overkill in such a thin and quiet machine. Other ultrabooks have the same problem, you just can't expect sustained desktop performance in an ultra-portable device. Or it would have to be shaped like a thick gaming machine. I'm certainly glad I don't need to edit 8K RAW video on the road.
This, the issue is not 'fully' fixed in my mind till it's operational in Bootcamp too. ( attached with and without manual throttle of power consumption after patch to demonstrate )
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Good job Apple, now can you please release the non-touch bar MacBook Pro with the 8th-gen CPU?
Your trick of withholding upgrades to this version to force us to buy the touch bar version won't work with me.
Your trick of withholding upgrades to this version to force us to buy the touch bar version won't work with me.
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She is a singer I believe .....
pretty sure an i9 in a MBP will run at or near 4.8GHz for extended periods of time.
none of these tests we’re seeing are putting the processor in the state that would showcase this.. even though about 90something % of use cases (pro or not) are being used in these types of scenarios..
all these tests are showcasing rare states in real world use.
Same. I imagine media editing is one of the few things you still can't really use a server for, just cause the data is too large to send quickly over the Internet.
4Ghz is the maximum all core turbo speed. Single core turbo can hit 4.8ghz but you’d need to run an appropriate test to see it.
yep.. no one with one of these computers at hand seem to be running or showing these types of tests though.
oh well.
—-maybe there aren’t any benchmark tests to do it?
if not, i have about a hundred different ways to test for it in real world usage scenarios.. so if someone could kindly let me borrow theirs for a bit...
(but really, i think at this point, i’ll get one myself in another week or two.. i’ll show it then.. i’m pretty confident the listed turbo spec is real)
