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THANKS APPLE - I am done here....

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Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
So while your new OS is more stable, you are less stable?
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very much so...and honesty, i never had trouble with OS 9... i upgraded so that i can get newer software ie; FCP 4 from FPC 1.2... and so that i can play around with a little UNIX, but i'm not totally convinced that it was money well spent.

The only real advantage is that i found that in iMovie, rather then marking in and out points like in FCP, i just let it play through and the software slices the clips for me. I find it a real time saver on events video work where i have lots of short clips that need trimming.

but other then that, i acctually have problems... vs. non running under OS 9
 
Thanks!

Thanks to all those who offered advice on Premier 6 vs FCE/FCP.

I've loaded FCE onto the powerbook and will have a play as suggested. My Powerbook 15" arrived on Monday (minus carry case:rolleyes: ) and I have been getting to grips with it over the past few days. Maybe I'm having trouble "thinking different" but it's not as fun as I had expected:( which is bad news when you spend £2.5k on a computer & software. The battery life seems poor (1:40 showing after fully charging?) and I can't even begin to figure out how to link it to ADSL via WiFi.

I've spent the last few hours trying to get my Nokia 7650 linked to the powerbook :confused: I've even bought "media mobile high speed" from Apple to help the process along, but apart from getting the powerbook and the phone paired in bluetooth nothing is working. The software loads - says it can't find the modem and shuts down so I don't even get a chance to tinker with it.

I'm sure Mac OS X is great, but I am really surprised how much I am struggling. Given I had hoped to move our main desktop unit to a G5 in the next 6 months this isn't a great start.:(

I am trusting everyone here that the learning curve is going to be worth it!;) :D
 
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Originally posted by ABG
I am trusting everyone here that the learning curve is going to be worth it!;) :D
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-ABG

The move From PC to Mac is always a challenging learning curve as one will tend to overthink it a bit. Once you get used to it, you will begin to feel the same as many of us here.

Hang in there, and feel free to ask your question on the foums.
 
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Originally posted by ABG


I'm sure Mac OS X is great, but I am really surprised how much I am struggling. Given I had hoped to move our main desktop unit to a G5 in the next 6 months this isn't a great start.:(

I am trusting everyone here that the learning curve is going to be worth it!;) :D
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Ya, switching is always hard for about the first few months, before you get comfortable in your OS, and everything you need is set up the way you want.. .desktop, file structure.

not to mention that a lot of controls are set up different, opening a new document , launching applications, even install and uninstall

As you've probably read in the last few posts, i to am having some trouple with OS X not working the way i want it too.

But i'm optimistic
 
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Originally posted by revenuee
As you've probably read in the last few posts, i to am having some trouple with OS X not working the way i want it too.

But i'm optimistic
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I'm spending more time searching old threads here than using the powerbook!:D

And you are so right that it's the different environment that gives you no comfort zone at first. Unlike you my biggest problems are around not having a right click button.

Patrick0brien - actually I may have under thunk it! i.e. I had overly high expectations that everything I tried would work first time (like the GPRS / bluetooth stuff).

Having used all sorts of computers over the past 20 years I'm beginning to have some empathy with people who aren't "computer literate".

Well - I wanted a change so I'd better get on with it:D
 
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Originally posted by ABG
I'm spending more time searching old threads here than using the powerbook!:D

And you are so right that it's the different environment that gives you no comfort zone at first. Unlike you my biggest problems are around not having a right click button.
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i know what you mean about searching old threads -

if your really concerned about the single button, just get a logitech multibutton... but i found controlling clicking became intuitive.. .and i would do it on PC machine and wonder why everything would get screwed up

sigh... i wish the mouse was my problem

SCSI CAN BURN
 
Re: Thanks!

Originally posted by ABG
.....The battery life seems poor (1:40 showing after fully charging?)....
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Ignore the battery life meter. It means nothing. Time your battery life for yourself and you should find you have more battery life than the meter says. Just like many cars have a couple extra gallons in the tank. Panther seems to fix this problem and add battery life in the process.


To all of you with teething problems with OSX. Stick to it. At first I installed OSX on my machine and played with it here and there but always used OS9. When 10.2 came out I forced myself to use OSX all the time. After about 6 months there was no going back. I was faster and more productive with OSX and it WAS much more stable. Trust me you will love OSX if given a chance to grow accustom to it.
 
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Originally posted by MacBandit
Ignore the battery life meter. It means nothing. Time your battery life for yourself and you should find you have more battery life than the meter says.
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That's good - I had a Sony Vaio a few years ago which would start out at 3:50 and within 10 minutes had halved! I'd rather the PB erred on the side of caution.
 
Re: Re: Re: Thanks!

Originally posted by ABG
I Unlike you my biggest problems are around not having a right click button.
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Yeah OS X is different even for us Mac users but is really nice once you get used to it.
Everything I've plugged into my Mac works without installing drivers I love it!
You can buy a 2 button mouse that will work fine with your Mac or just use the control key to get contextual menus,have fun:D
daniel
 
Originally posted by revenuee
very much so...and honesty, i never had trouble with OS 9... i upgraded so that i can get newer software ie; FCP 4 from FPC 1.2... and so that i can play around with a little UNIX, but i'm not totally convinced that it was money well spent.

The only real advantage is that i found that in iMovie, rather then marking in and out points like in FCP, i just let it play through and the software slices the clips for me. I find it a real time saver on events video work where i have lots of short clips that need trimming.

but other then that, i acctually have problems... vs. non running under OS 9
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I like imovie for the quick stuff too, very nice!
Nothing like fcp4 and the new tools though:D
Which OS are you using? 10.2.6 was very stable, 10.2.8 seems to be good but I haven't used it for editing yet.
Not to say that you haven't done it but make sure that you have all of the updates from apple,and run repair permissions. With all of the new software and os updates its easy to get out of date,peace
daniel
 
Originally posted by fourthtunz
I like imovie for the quick stuff too, very nice!
Nothing like fcp4 and the new tools though:D
Which OS are you using? 10.2.6 was very stable, 10.2.8 seems to be good but I haven't used it for editing yet.
Not to say that you haven't done it but make sure that you have all of the updates from apple,and run repair permissions. With all of the new software and os updates its easy to get out of date,peace
daniel
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Ya i'm definatly loving FCP 4 aspecially since i just about tripled my RAM before i installed it... LOL

I'm running 10.2.8, and it's not the OS its my hardware under the OS... thats why i'm frustrated - although i find it to lag a little... and i've turned off most/all of the animated window effects - my 400 mhz might be a little slow for it too... the 832 MB ram is helping but still...

Mostly problems are SCSI drive not mounting, and it seems like i get dropped frames when i do capture to it... also i got a FIREWIRE drive at the same time that i updated to OS 10 and FCP 4, and the capture to it is terrible and i don't know how to fix it, but i don't think that is the OS...
 
Re: Re: You really have no ideal what you are talking about!

Originally posted by revenuee
What are you even talking about?

Oh wait, that is what this thread is originaly about... LOL ... we've moved so far away from the topic.

LOL... no need to name call though.. thats what arn and eyelikeheart are here for... haha
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I posted to what was the topic in this thread, now if you can't stay on that topic thats not my problem right? What do you call a person who comes on a Mac forum site bashing Apple and does not have his facts even close to right? I really dont consider it name calling when he knew what he was doing.....
 
Originally posted by stanmoonie
I posted to what was the topic in this thread, now if you can't stay on that topic thats not my problem right? What do you call a person who comes on a Mac forum site bashing Apple and does not have his facts even close to right? I really dont consider it name calling when he knew what he was doing.....
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How many "LOL's" does a man need to put in order for people to realize he's being sarcastic - obviously i know what the topic is, it was just a joke - don't get your panties all tied in knot over it.

Second ... the computer that the dell was tested against was a dual 1.25 processor powermac, no one said it was a powerbook.

and third, it wasn't trolling because he didn't say anything bad, he opened it for discussion, if you had read the full thread you would notice that he himself said that he's deciding on a mac and will probably buy one at the end of the month (check page 7) - your name calling was unnecessary at this point in the discussion
 
Originally posted by revenuee
Ya i'm definatly loving FCP 4 aspecially since i just about tripled my RAM before i installed it... LOL

I'm running 10.2.8, and it's not the OS its my hardware under the OS... thats why i'm frustrated - although i find it to lag a little... and i've turned off most/all of the animated window effects - my 400 mhz might be a little slow for it too... the 832 MB ram is helping but still...

Mostly problems are SCSI drive not mounting, and it seems like i get dropped frames when i do capture to it... also i got a FIREWIRE drive at the same time that i updated to OS 10 and FCP 4, and the capture to it is terrible and i don't know how to fix it, but i don't think that is the OS...
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It's highly likely that your video capture problem is due to your processor speed. Also the SCSI incompatibility is also probably due to the age of your hardware with OSX.

What machine exactly are you running?
 
Originally posted by MacBandit
It's highly likely that your video capture problem is due to your processor speed. Also the SCSI incompatibility is also probably due to the age of your hardware with OSX.

What machine exactly are you running?
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G4 400 AGP (sawtooth)
832 MB ram
10 gig quantum drive
18 gig Seagate ultra-wide scsi connected via Orange Micro 940 UW scsi interface
80 gig Lacie 400 drive

the thing about the SCSI drive dropping frames is weird because it didn't happen under OS 9 - may just be my imagination about it dropping frames.

but capturing straight to the Lacie drive is awfull
 
Originally posted by revenuee
G4 400 AGP (sawtooth)
832 MB ram
10 gig quantum drive
18 gig Seagate ultra-wide scsi connected via Orange Micro 940 UW scsi interface
80 gig Lacie 400 drive

the thing about the SCSI drive dropping frames is weird because it didn't happen under OS 9 - may just be my imagination about it dropping frames.

but capturing straight to the Lacie drive is awfull
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I would suspect your system just isn't fast enough to handle the throughput of converting the data coming from the incoming video and then processing it out back through the PCI bus to the external hard drive. The limitation is most likely in the system bus and system architecture though it could be processing power.

Apples implementation for 3rd party devices like SCSI don't seem to be very retroactive so I would suspect it's just a matter of having a legacy system (sawtooth) hardware.
 
Originally posted by MacBandit
I would suspect your system just isn't fast enough to handle the throughput of converting the data coming from the incoming video and then processing it out back through the PCI bus to the external hard drive. The limitation is most likely in the system bus and system architecture though it could be processing power.

Apples implementation for 3rd party devices like SCSI don't seem to be very retroactive so I would suspect it's just a matter of having a legacy system (sawtooth) hardware.
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hmm i see... well i've gotten by, through capturing to the system Drive and now the SCSI drive- yes it was my imagination i tried it in the mean time - and then dragging it over to the Firewire drive and simply editing from there, that isn't a problem it plays back fine in FCP

with the SCSI this is the problem... i downloaded the fireware and driver updates... when i install the driver up restart my system the drive mounts fine - but then when i restart again, the drive doesn't mount anymore - the only way to get it to work again is to delete the extension and reinstall the driver, and then restart - to avoid the hassle i just don't turn off my computer when i don't have to

one thing that i really like about my new OS is that the SCSI devices did not support sleep under OS 9, and now under OS 10 even when the drive is mounted the system goes to sleep... i got back the feature i lost 4 years ago... LOL
 
Originally posted by revenuee
hmm i see... well i've gotten by, through capturing to the system Drive and now the SCSI drive- yes it was my imagination i tried it in the mean time - and then dragging it over to the Firewire drive and simply editing from there, that isn't a problem it plays back fine in FCP

with the SCSI this is the problem... i downloaded the fireware and driver updates... when i install the driver up restart my system the drive mounts fine - but then when i restart again, the drive doesn't mount anymore - the only way to get it to work again is to delete the extension and reinstall the driver, and then restart - to avoid the hassle i just don't turn off my computer when i don't have to

one thing that i really like about my new OS is that the SCSI devices did not support sleep under OS 9, and now under OS 10 even when the drive is mounted the system goes to sleep... i got back the feature i lost 4 years ago... LOL
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So your saying your SCSI drive will not mount automatically or your firewire drive?

If it's your SCSI drive try using Disc Utility. If it sees the drive it may be able to mount it. If it's the firewire drive try disconnecting the drive and reconnecting it. If that doesn't work try disconnecting before startup and then reconnecting once the system is completely booted.
 
Originally posted by irmongoose
I'm sorry, I have to interrupt. It's a Mac, short for Macintosh. The Mac, or a Mac. It doesn't stand for anything, and therefore should not be all capitalized as MAC.

Sorry, it's a little pet peeve of mine...
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I hear you, that's a pet peeve of mine too. MAC doesn't mean anything unless you're referring to your MAC address, which PC's with Ethernet's have. :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by MacBandit
So your saying your SCSI drive will not mount automatically or your firewire drive?

If it's your SCSI drive try using Disc Utility. If it sees the drive it may be able to mount it. If it's the firewire drive try disconnecting the drive and reconnecting it. If that doesn't work try disconnecting before startup and then reconnecting once the system is completely booted.
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its the scsi drive that won't mount after restart... and i tried disk utility and the disk doesn't even show there
 
Originally posted by MacBandit
Is the SCSI drive properly terminated?
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i'm going to be honest... i don't know what the means...

i mean it does mount but only after the iniitall restart after the driver install.. it's the consecutive restarts that don't work.. at which point i have to go into root delete the extension, reinstall the extension and then restart again, so that the drive will mount again

but ya.. no idea what SCSI termination is
 
Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
Every SCSI bus needs to be terminated at both sides so that the SCSI signals know when to stop and turn around, otherwise they just go out the end of the SCSI bus and disappear.
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I'm gonna have to say that it should be done properly because i didn't install it, the tech at my apple dedicated (no windows - actually windows users are discriminated against there) reseller did the inital set up and i've only done the software upgrades, unless termination is done software side. either way, if it is hardware the only thing i touched was installed more RAM, nothing else was disconnected or touched...
 
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