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I'm starting to think that this gainstown Mac Pro (even with the baseline configuration) is going to cost us around roughly $5000 or maybe a little more considering after adding the already expensive DDR3 RAM. :(

Gah, what?! Base of $3,000 tops if they want to SELL any of them.

Don't forget, the current price factors in the original price of 800MHz DDR2 FB-DIMMs... back in January 2008.

Two gigs of 800MHz FB-DIMMs are, what, $68 now? Yeah. Don't worry, it won't be $5,000.
 
Gah, what?! Base of $3,000 tops if they want to SELL any of them.

Don't forget, the current price factors in the original price of 800MHz DDR2 FB-DIMMs... back in January 2008.

Two gigs of 800MHz FB-DIMMs are, what, $68 now? Yeah. Don't worry, it won't be $5,000.

:D:D:D I sure hope your right, I dont want to spend no more than $4500 on everything (basically RAM, GPU).
 
:D:D:D I sure hope your right, I dont want to spend no more than $4000 on everything.

Besides, we aren't using FB-DIMMs anymore. It's still ECC, so it'll be a fair amount to start out, but at least it's not Beckton with DDR3 ECC FB-DIMMs... :eek:

And prices should drop in line with the speed at which they dropped for the current Mac Pro.
 
The Fudzilla link also says "that Intel will be selling the cooling solution for these CPUs separately, which was never the case before," which would increase the "true" price for these CPUs.
Now you've got me thinking. Are they talking about Q=1000 trays, or retail packaging?

I assumed they meant tray, as the prices were indicated as wholesale. Cooling solutions have always been additional for OEM components, so I didn't pay it much attention. I've never really liked the stock coolers in the retail packages anyway. ;) Too cheap...err...loud. :D :p
 
Gah, what?! Base of $3,000 tops if they want to SELL any of them.

Don't forget, the current price factors in the original price of 800MHz DDR2 FB-DIMMs... back in January 2008.

Two gigs of 800MHz FB-DIMMs are, what, $68 now? Yeah. Don't worry, it won't be $5,000.
No. As Tallest Skil indicated,
1. It won't cost that much more for the parts than the last release. Whew...:D
2. They'd never sell enough of them at $5k. :eek: //massive coronary... :p
:D:D:D I sure hope your right, I dont want to spend no more than $4500 on everything (basically RAM, GPU).
Does this include a monitor?
Besides, we aren't using FB-DIMMs anymore. It's still ECC, so it'll be a fair amount to start out, but at least it's not Beckton with DDR3 ECC FB-DIMMs... :eek:

And prices should drop in line with the speed at which they dropped for the current Mac Pro.
Now just imagine FB-DIMM2. :eek: :p If it ever sees the light of day. ;)
 
I have a 24" LED ACD already and I'm guessing with confidence that it will work with the new mac pros. ;)

So no $4500 is what I"m willing to spend without the monitor.

$4500 should be more than enough to get a more than capable system unless you have some specific hardware needs. What sort of specs are you hoping to get?
 
I have a 24" LED ACD already and I'm guessing with confidence that it will work with the new mac pros. ;)

So no $4500 is what I"m willing to spend without the monitor.
It might require an adapter cable, but it should be quite doable. ;) Especially now that the Mini DisplayPort has been accepted into the VESA spec. :) Let's hear it for 3rd party availability. :cool:

Hopefully, at $4500. ;) But how crazy do you plan to go? :eek: :D :p
 
*Dual-GPU “SLI” graphics system built by nVIDIA; entry-level eight core 2.8GHz model will have a single ATi GPU — possibly a 3600-class card — and all others will sport various types of dual nVIDIA cards in the 8000/9000 series. A configuration with dual GeForce 9800GX2 cards (which have dual GPUs on each card) for a total of four GPUs has been mentioned by sources but thus far, we have not been able to see one with our own eyes.

Huh? :confused:
I certainly hope this isn't true. Surely someone on the Mac Pro team would have enough common sense to come up with current video technology to put in that machine. :rolleyes:
 
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Just wonderring,who in here is judging the alleged Nehalm prorfmancce gains by the possible gains to be achieved in pro applications ?

The OP is a teenager who is not owning a Macpro, has no experience using it, and don't know any pro applications . That's what he revealed about himself.
He also was wrong with any of his predictions.

Bottom line : an underage kid is runing this discussion, without any workstation experience, simply by using Google a lot.
 
The OP is a teenager who is not owning a Macpro, has no experience using it, and don't know any pro applications . That's what he revealed about himself.
He also was wrong with any of his predictions.

Bottom line : an underage kid is runing this discussion, without any workstation experience, simply by using Google a lot.

And? :confused: Also, how is 19 underage? What country are you from?

I got the specs of the current MacBook Pro right just by looking at past update history, power draw, and by using a little pessimism.

Like, dead-on right. Minus the 500GB HDD BTO.

I did the same thing with the Mac Pro prediction at the start of this thread. I didn't know enough about them to do a complete spec guess on my own, thus I created this thread so that people who know a heck of a lot more than me (cue Eidorian, Umbongo, nanofrog, et. al.) could pool their thoughts and input.

Google, schmoogle. I use Dogpile. :D

And what does age have to do with anything? I'm here to learn; something I also revealed about myself (first post). If we're not here to learn from each other and then take that knowledge and apply it in other threads for other people (or in real life), why are we here?
 
If I may, let's play a game of Devil's Advocate -

1) What questions, or specific pieces of information would help in clearing up issues from the macosrumors article/info thus far?
2) What would conclusively demonstrate, for you, that they could have potential information that's not yet known here?

It's a 2 way street. Yes, the article had a doozey of an ending. They're looking for funding. Yes, also the primary author's apparently been out of it for some pretty serious medical reasons. If succinct and clear enough, surely there are some questions/info that could help prove if they've got some info?

I'm not saying they have. I'd imagine they also know the boy who cried "new Apple rumor" story :rolleyes:

If nothing else, it's gristle to the mill, and something to sharpen the facts and likely knowledge with...


Just wonderring,who in here is judging the alleged Nehalm prorfmancce gains by the possible gains to be achieved in pro applications ?
The OP is a teenager who is not owning a Macpro, has no experience using it, and don't know any pro applications . That's what he revealed about himself.
He also was wrong with any of his predictions.
Bottom line : an underage kid is runing this discussion, without any workstation experience, simply by using Google a lot.

Minimum age on the forum is clearly stated. You don't have to be old to be accurately predictive. You also don't have to have a Mac Pro to guess. Or do you think that no-one should have talked about the original iPhone, or thoughts on netbook, slate etc? ;)

You can look at current known pages on Nehalem benchmarks. And make rough estimates for applications. No need to slam the OP! (or if you are, give a decent argument with proof as to why you think the Mac Pro might be going in a different direction. The method of creating a 1st post to modify and be a updated post, and then try and channel the thread to keep on one topic, and try and stimulate discussion seems rather a good thing, n'est pas?
 
Just wonderring,who in here is judging the alleged Nehalm prorfmancce gains by the possible gains to be achieved in pro applications ?

The OP is a teenager who is not owning a Macpro, has no experience using it, and don't know any pro applications . That's what he revealed about himself.
He also was wrong with any of his predictions.

Bottom line : an underage kid is runing this discussion, without any workstation experience, simply by using Google a lot.

He's giving a lot of his predictions by real facts and specifications and by people who has tested pro apps in terms of speed.

Anyone can google easily and find speed tests done with the current mac pros with or without actually owning it.
 
Just wonderring,who in here is judging the alleged Nehalm prorfmancce gains by the possible gains to be achieved in pro applications ?

The OP is a teenager who is not owning a Macpro, has no experience using it, and don't know any pro applications . That's what he revealed about himself.
He also was wrong with any of his predictions.

Bottom line : an underage kid is runing this discussion, without any workstation experience, simply by using Google a lot.

Well, I spend a lot of my time waiting for Maya one way or another. Especially rendering. The benchmarks for i7 show about 35-40% increase in performance clock for clock. This is likely to translate at about the same or better for the DP Xeons because the QPI should improve multiprocessing performance. That performance gain is all I am really interested in to be honest and is a quite typical performance increase from one generation of Mac Pro to the next. The current line-up is very long in the tooth
 
Do you think a decked out 2x 3.2 Xeon current model would still be comparable in speed to a base model gainestown mac pro?

If I remember correctly, the 2.66GHz Nehalem was on par with the 3.2GHz Penryn.

But we don't know if Apple will offer the 2.66 or the 2.8 as standard, or whether they'll offer the 2.8 as standard with a downgrade option to the 2.66.
 
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