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The 2009 (Gainestown) Mac Pro: Everything We Know
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June...September is an uninformed answer, troll.
How the hell do you know, can you tell the future. TROLL???, what are you on?!!!
Intel releases Gainestown in March, computers have a history of being released 6-13 weeks thereafter. Therefore, June is a good estimate.
You laughed at us and bragged about your future PC. I see no redeeming value in your post to this thread.
Forgive me if I was a tad harsh.
Ok my PC Desktop died today. (PSU + Motherboard and probably my CPU and RAM too....) So now I'm also waiting like y'all for the new Mac Pro. I'm hoping for a release at WWDC' that would be great.
What I'd like in forthcoming Mac Pro
Same as now basically just with cheaper RAM support (PLEASE NO MORE FB-DIMMS!!)
Some decent GPU choices. Perhaps a NVIDIA GTX260 or an ATi 4870. That would be great. I'm not really asking for much I don't think?
What I'd like in forthcoming Mac Pro
Same as now basically just with cheaper RAM support (PLEASE NO MORE FB-DIMMS!!)
Some decent GPU choices. Perhaps a NVIDIA GTX260 or an ATi 4870. That would be great. I'm not really asking for much I don't think?
Indeed.
Shame on Tallest Skil for calling you a troll.
Leprechauns look nothing like trolls
What makes you think the components are bad? (Provide a better answer than "it doesn't turn on," that's not very specific
)Read the first post, your hopes will be fufilled... as far as no more FB-DIMM sticks. Cheaper, on the other hand... I wouldn't hold my breath. The 4870 is coming to the Mac eventually, and the GTX 260 is lined up to compete with that. The first post elaborates on this.
Just thought I'd put this out there
http://www.dailytech.com/Gulftown+is+the+Flagship+of+32nm+Westmere+Line/article14227.htm
"Intel is reporting at least a 22 percent performance increase clock for clock over their 45nm process, and there are still many steppings to go before they go to market.
Gulftown is the successor to the Nehalem-based Core i7 and is due in the middle of 2010. Gulftown has six cores, but is capable of efficiently handling twelve threads at once, thanks to its next generation Hyper-Threading. It will use the X58 chipset due to the LGA-1366 socket, but there are rumors of a newer version coming in 2010 that will feature support for USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s."
I'm assuming Gulftown is the Bloomfield successor, and so the DP version of Gulftown may come a bit later? That would really point towards 518 days
http://www.dailytech.com/Gulftown+is+the+Flagship+of+32nm+Westmere+Line/article14227.htm
"Intel is reporting at least a 22 percent performance increase clock for clock over their 45nm process, and there are still many steppings to go before they go to market.
Gulftown is the successor to the Nehalem-based Core i7 and is due in the middle of 2010. Gulftown has six cores, but is capable of efficiently handling twelve threads at once, thanks to its next generation Hyper-Threading. It will use the X58 chipset due to the LGA-1366 socket, but there are rumors of a newer version coming in 2010 that will feature support for USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s."
I'm assuming Gulftown is the Bloomfield successor, and so the DP version of Gulftown may come a bit later? That would really point towards 518 days
Oh, great. I better have this thread closed and start a new one...
The 2010 (Gulftown Westmere) Mac Pro: We Know Absolutely Nothing.
What makes you think the components are bad? (Provide a better answer than "it doesn't turn on," that's not very specific
PSU is Dead, Motherboard is Dead. There was a loud bang, I could smell .. a type of electrical burning and the entire system and the components I tested (PSU and Mobo at this point) did not work. I've yet to try the other components as I do not have an appropriate system to do so. I built the system in 2006 (And by that I mean the Motherboard + CPU + RAM, the rest of the stuff were upgrades from that date to present).
That motherboard (EVGA NVIDIA 680i s775) has always given me issues, PS/2 ports never worked, wouldn't OC past 280FSB on a Quad due to low voltage on the gtlref voltage (Hardware Issue), data corruption and like another 5 issues that I can't recall right now. The point is I've been considering a Mac Pro for a while and this system calling it quits now is kinda a good time for me. I've not lost any data as I do regular backups.
Well, that's certainly a specific answer! I would test the CPU and memory just to do it, but I agree that the outlook is grim. I know not everyone has extra boards and stuff laying around.
The 680i is so ridiculously picky with memory, but that's been my worst experience with it. I've almost bought an X58 3 or 4 times just to be rid of that damn problem.You're not supposed to let the magic smoke out!
EVERYONE knows computers don't run without the magic smoke!
Does this joke ever get old? No, no it does not.
You're not supposed to let the magic smoke out!
EVERYONE knows computers don't run without the magic smoke!
lol yes indeed. I wasnt quite sure where the smell was coming from directly after the noise the power in my home turned off (due to whatever happened in the computer tripping the circuit) and after sniffing around I noticed the smell was coming directly from my PC. This is a smell that has never come out before. I tried booting the system up, no life at all. No LED light on the mobo (usual even if the system is not on but being supplied with power from the PSU).
I tried a different PSU that I know works 100% and same no LED on the light. I then tried the PSU from the broken system on another motherboard and it did not work at all. So I know for certain that the PSU and the Motherboard at this point are dead. But the other stuff (DDR2 RAM, QX6700 CPU, Graphics, Hard Disks) are a mystery until I look more in to it. But it happened today at like 9PM so I'm not going to spend much time trying to see what works and what doesn't especially without another socket 775 system to try the CPU (which was the most pricey part of the system £800! ouch).
EDIT:// Also sorry for side tracking this thread. I just can't help replying
To get this back on track I do have a question, someone above mentioned I wouldn't be disappointed about the Graphics options of the Mac Pro (The Next one) and I should check the first post in the topic but I didn't really find any info there except for a screenshot at the bottom showing driver support for some 4xxx series ATi cards, from what I can tell are just re-branded 3xxx series cards according to ATi.Checked another article
"Intel … will introduce a Xeon 5000 series of server chips, codenamed Nehalem-EP (Efficient Performance), … [t]he first of these will be available at the end of March, to be supplanted in Q2 of 2010 by a Westmere variant."
Q2 2010, it seems.
http://www.dailytech.com/Intel+Aims+for+Efficiency+With+New+Server+Roadmap/article14224.htm
"Intel … will introduce a Xeon 5000 series of server chips, codenamed Nehalem-EP (Efficient Performance), … [t]he first of these will be available at the end of March, to be supplanted in Q2 of 2010 by a Westmere variant."
Q2 2010, it seems.
Just asking, how do you know the new Mac Pro won't be out until September?
@Tallest Skil,
Please tell me whom your family physician is, because whatever he prescribed you MUST be illegal enough to arrest an entire country of citizens. I want 2 of what you had before you started this thread PLEASE!!!
All joking aside I'm VERY glad you brought this to light and all those that helped contribute. I'm more stoked at this new news than the first PowerMac G5!!
I'm also amazed that in 1-2yrs SSD HDDs will be the norm and cheap enough to upgrade and this is the first time I've heard of it implemented into a Desktop Personal Computer
Now how HOT would these run at full cpu crunch mode with data transfers?? Would fans like the G5 be needed again? Will a 1000W powersupply be needed??
If Apple delivers on just HALF of the specs you surmised on the first post - less SSD HDD, 8-10 RAM slots, and 2 16x PCI 2.0 slots 2 8x PCI 2.0 slots; It'll be SOOOO worth it!
Base model - not the BTO - going up in price to $3K is a little hard to chew in todays market with the weak economy but then again.
PS what about the XServe - same cpu's? More RAM? ??
Please tell me whom your family physician is, because whatever he prescribed you MUST be illegal enough to arrest an entire country of citizens. I want 2 of what you had before you started this thread PLEASE!!!
All joking aside I'm VERY glad you brought this to light and all those that helped contribute. I'm more stoked at this new news than the first PowerMac G5!!
I'm also amazed that in 1-2yrs SSD HDDs will be the norm and cheap enough to upgrade and this is the first time I've heard of it implemented into a Desktop Personal Computer
Now how HOT would these run at full cpu crunch mode with data transfers?? Would fans like the G5 be needed again? Will a 1000W powersupply be needed??If Apple delivers on just HALF of the specs you surmised on the first post - less SSD HDD, 8-10 RAM slots, and 2 16x PCI 2.0 slots 2 8x PCI 2.0 slots; It'll be SOOOO worth it!
Base model - not the BTO - going up in price to $3K is a little hard to chew in todays market with the weak economy but then again.
PS what about the XServe - same cpu's? More RAM? ??
The Xserve will probably have similar RAM structure to the Mac Pro, but may support more RAM by Apple (although unofficial support would be the same).
CPU-wise, it is noted that the current Xserve has 80 W CPUs topping out at 3.0 GHz. The top-end Gainestown at 80 W is 2.53 GHz with 1067 MHz RAM. So if Apple chooses to stick to 80 W, we won't see as much of a performance increase on the Xserve as with the Mac Pro. The price of the 2.53 GHz Gainestown is less than the 3.0 GHz Harpertown though.
Absolutely, but I don't think that Tylersburg lets you have two 16x and two 8x.
I could be wrong. I was under the impression that it could give four 16x or two 16x and two 4x, with the latter being the most logical choice of Apple.
I don't know. Someone step in.
Then again is right.
Virtually all of the people who have commented on the increased price have agreed that the performance benefits are worth it.But I could be wrong again. Snow Leopard/Nehalem has always seemed "worth it".
I'm still very skeptical of Snow Leopard. Some of the additions sound worthwhile and needed, but some of it's promises - or at least what people are expecting - aren't realistic.
You know, I think that's close enough to 1000W.
You know, I think that's close enough to 1000W.
What? This isn't realistic?! "100x faster Macs with Snow Leopard"
Oh, wait. I already poked a little fun at him for that...
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