I don't think you and reality have been properly introduced. What possible reason would there be to drop prices that much? So they can stop turning a profit altogether?
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The 2009 (Gainestown) Mac Pro: Everything We Know
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I don't think you and reality have been properly introduced. What possible reason would there be to drop prices that much? So they can stop turning a profit altogether?
Totally agree, god I've been defending Apple for almost two an a half years on the Mac Pro pricing to people who didn't get it. Now they go and do this. I'm quite shocked.
2006 Mac Pro - $2,499 Two 2.66GHz dual core ($690 per processor) $1,119 + processors
2008 Mac Pro - $2,799 Two 2.80GHz quad core ($797 per processor) $1,205 + processors
2009 Mac Pro - $2,499 One 2.66GHz quad core ($284 per processor) $2,215 + processor
2009 Mac Pro - $3,299 Two 2.26GHz quad core ($373 per processor) $2,553 + processors
They have gone from good pricing to ridiculous.
the performance of the top of the line model (8 corre 2.93) isn't even that great an improvement over the previous top of the line:
http://www.apple.com/macpro/performance.html
and the old model is half the price... hmm
http://www.apple.com/macpro/performance.html
and the old model is half the price... hmm
1. New logic board design.
2. New memory.
3. Greed.
4. Apple hates pro customers. The only customers they give a rat's ass about are the trend-following idiots who'll buy a new machine every time there's a minor tweak.
That's it! I'll get 4 Mac Mini's and string them together!http://prometheus.med.utah.edu/~bwjones/C1940305979/E1084323015/index.html
i7 Hackintosh here I come!
i7 Hackintosh here I come!
1 and 2 should have little impact, obviously 3 and 4 have come in to play heavily.
I think we need benchmarks, not apple's to really see if this is the case. I'm sure by the end of today or the week someone will have done that.
I think I'll buy the octo, it may be 700 more canadian for the base (edu store 3399 vs 2699) but if the improvement IS better I'm gonna buy it for sure... or if there is not large gain, see if there are any great deals on a 3.2 kickin' about
I use maxwell render (shown in their performance rating), 1.7x isn't too much better but it is a good increase.... looking at the 4870 as an upgrade though... maybe better to get the gt 120 and save some $$ though...
Greed, greed, greed, and pro-hating
Screw them with their new memory. 2X1 GB DDR3 1066 ECC from newegg is $68
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148243
So the base has ~210 in memory, plus you know they buy bulk and get it for cheaper. This is all about the last two options you put.
Screw them with their new memory. 2X1 GB DDR3 1066 ECC from newegg is $68
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148243
So the base has ~210 in memory, plus you know they buy bulk and get it for cheaper. This is all about the last two options you put.
Well at least the ATi 4870 is compatible with Mac Pro '08. We'll see if it's any good in 5-7 weeks (that's the shipping time here in sweden at least), though I'm going to wait to hear about it's loudness.
No Snow Leopard, So Catch Our Breaths and Think
Whoa. Let's catch our breath here. The pricing is insanely bad, I agree.
But think of Apple's previous tricks of using 2-generations back models as the "baseline" for performance comparisons to try to blur the lackluster incremental performance gains.
Here, finally, they have gone head-to-head with the old top-of-line to new top-of-line and I think the performace gains are quite respectable: 1.5x to 1.7x.
The gaming benchmarks are particularly sweet, and do not include Boot Camp Windows configurations. Let's see what Bare Feats come up with.
Also -- no Snow leopard, which is what these machines should really be running. Maybe I'll wait until Snow Leopard. By then some price drops may be in order given the global economy. Remember iPhone. Apple is not above shaking down the giddy early adopters and then dropping the price dramatically.
All in all I'm happy to see these babies arrive and want to see the serious benchmarking begin. But again, without Snow Leopard it's not all that relevant.
Whoa. Let's catch our breath here. The pricing is insanely bad, I agree.
But think of Apple's previous tricks of using 2-generations back models as the "baseline" for performance comparisons to try to blur the lackluster incremental performance gains.
Here, finally, they have gone head-to-head with the old top-of-line to new top-of-line and I think the performace gains are quite respectable: 1.5x to 1.7x.
The gaming benchmarks are particularly sweet, and do not include Boot Camp Windows configurations. Let's see what Bare Feats come up with.
Also -- no Snow leopard, which is what these machines should really be running. Maybe I'll wait until Snow Leopard. By then some price drops may be in order given the global economy. Remember iPhone. Apple is not above shaking down the giddy early adopters and then dropping the price dramatically.
All in all I'm happy to see these babies arrive and want to see the serious benchmarking begin. But again, without Snow Leopard it's not all that relevant.
yes but that benchmark is for the 2.93Ghz not the 2.23... I think you'll find that the new bottom 8 core, is about as fast as the old 3ghz, but actually way more expensive. Damn so much for waiting
Whoa. Let's catch our breath here. The pricing is insanely bad, I agree.
But think of Apple's previous tricks of using 2-generations back models as the "baseline" for performance comparisons to try to blur the lackluster incremental performance gains.
Here, finally, they have gone head-to-head with the old top-of-line to new top-of-line and I think the performace gains are quite respectable: 1.5x to 1.7x.
The gaming benchmarks are particularly sweet, and do not include Boot Camp Windows configurations. Let's see what Bare Feats come up with.
Also -- no Snow leopard, which is what these machines should really be running. Maybe I'll wait until Snow Leopard. By then some price drops may be in order given the global economy.
All in all I'm happy to see these babies arrive and want to see the serious benchmarking begin. But again, without Snow Leopard it's not all that relevant.
yes I agree if they used the same price points as before, but what we have here is paying twice as much for a computer that is 1.7 times as quick... not great really
Well, 1.7x is not so far from 2x. And that should jump up to what, 3x or 3.5x under Snow Leopard, according to what Tallest Skil has written?
Well, 1.7x is not so far from 2x. And that should jump up to what, 3x or 3.5x under Snow Leopard, according to what Tallest Skil has written?
yeah, because he was -so- spot on about these
Did they lower the cache sizes too? The 2009 models say 8 MB L3 cache but don't mention the L2 which on the 2008 was 12 MB.
I wouldn't mind going for the low end 4-core but I would need WAY more ram than 8 GB. This and the price and quite frustrating.
I wouldn't mind going for the low end 4-core but I would need WAY more ram than 8 GB. This and the price and quite frustrating.
I think they just went from 30 to like 60% margins. Nice to have a monopoly isn't it?
Exactly the same here, I thought they would at least offer 2 x 2.66 Quad Nehalem at the same price point
The CPUs are much cheaper last time.
At these prices, he'd have to sell his house first. (Assuming he has a house)
Was expecting the heavy price, but was also expecting more on the graphics end .... does anyone think they may add one gfx card higher (non workstation) in the near future?... also does anyone think there'll be a 30in led display by the end of this month? Thanks in advance
http://www.buy.com/prod/crucial-4gb...066mhz-ddr3-1066-pc3/q/loc/101/206763179.html
lastly would this be the right ram for the comp?
http://www.buy.com/prod/crucial-4gb...066mhz-ddr3-1066-pc3/q/loc/101/206763179.html
lastly would this be the right ram for the comp?
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