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PS. I think it irks me so much because Australia was knocked out last WC in the last 30 seconds by Italy milking a penalty to go through to the quarters. Followed by 4 years of Italy being 'world champions'. It left a long-lasting sour taste.

Yep.. was a big UGH here too.

It shows the troubled influences of the refs. The USA have every right to complain. I so hope they make it through... an TBO the should! :)
 
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PS. I think it irks me so much because Australia was knocked out last WC in the last 30 seconds by Italy milking a penalty to go through to the quarters. Followed by 4 years of Italy being 'world champions'. It left a long-lasting sour taste.

I 2nd your use of the quotes. :p

Ooo! We've never been knocked out of a tournament that way before! :)

There is always a ... first .. time ... *gasp*

If England is eliminated, I expect a worse backlash than their last performance in the 2006 cup.
 
I can say it right now: both games so far today were ruined by questionable refereeing.
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The USA should have won 3-2, and "trigger happy" referees cost Germany the game against Serbia.
 
You should let it go. This game just showed both a 'faceball' by an American and a handball by a Slovenian in the US box three minutes from time that had as much 'intent' as the German handball which would have made the score 2-1 instead of the 'brilliant' 4-0 win.

Had that game actually ended 2-1 would you still be saying how badly Australia played? I don't have an issue with losing, as I said, just about the post-match rubbing-it-in about just how much better Germany was, which you're still doing.

PS. I think it irks me so much because Australia was knocked out last WC in the last 30 seconds by Italy milking a penalty to go through to the quarters. Followed by 4 years of Italy being 'world champions'. It left a long-lasting sour taste.
first off, i have no particular sympathy for germany (though i appreciate their game), but if they clearly outplayed your guys i don't see how that's my fault.

second, basically you are advocating that because today's ref made a mistake, the ref in the germany-australia game should have also made the wrong calls in order to favor your team.

third, :D:D:D still with the 2006 call (which was fine, btw)?
talk about sore losers...
not that italy didn't deserve that game (or that cup) anyway
 
in any case, i think this was the best game so far.
too bad for that last goal, but i think the US will still go through comfortably, with a win over algeria.

now england needs to win by two against algeria to have the upper hand over slovenia.
very interesting group.
 
now england needs to win by two against algeria to have the upper hand over slovenia.
very interesting group.

true .. i knew slovenia was way better than what many people expected but now the group is really open...

if england only draws today it might get ridiclous for the last games
 
I missed the first two games this morning. Yesterday FIFA announced they will be doubling their efforts to drown out the Vuvuzela's for the international feed. Did anyone notice a difference?

The filtering seems to be working, I can actually hear the crowd cheering more now and the English fans singing just then. :D
 
Is England trying to copy France?

A team full of gr8 names, but it looks like this lot don't fancy playing together either.
Really, what an awful game... :(

BTW, why is Heskey playing? I just can't believe such a mediocre player getting into the English World Cup squad.
The term "donkey" springs into mind.

Come on England! Let's get a good 2nd half!
 
England make anyone they play against look like World beaters. Same every tournament. They dont have the bottle to win. Lucky we not playing against a better team. Like Mexico…

Heskey always seems to be liked by England managers. Gerrard and Lampard cant play together
 
Horrible outcome for the US, but with an England win over Slovenia and US win over Algeria we should get through. Can't believe we got ripped by the referee so bad. WTH did he see that the rest of the world didnt'??
 
Horrible outcome for the US, but with an England win over Slovenia and US win over Algeria we should get through. Can't believe we got ripped by the referee so bad. WTH did he see that the rest of the world didnt'??

That was very unfair. USA deserved that third goal, they played very well for it.
 
Heskey always seems to be liked by England managers. Gerrard and Lampard cant play together

Heskey is to England what Kuyt is to Holland. Probably a very positive person in the dressing room, works and trains very hard.
But, hey.. come on... not good enough for the "first 11".

IMHO, Crouch should always start for England. I am sure every defender is scared of his height. Crouch is a target for anyone, and that probably can give Rooney some space.

Gerrard and Lampard should learn to play together.
They are not rivals playing a World Cup.
 
Gerrard and Lampard will never be able to play well together, England need to accept this and move on. Oh wait they drew against another top team again……… :rolleyes:
 
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Very very poor. Rooney looked like he couldn't be bothered, Lampard and Johnson below average. Heskey played as well as we'd expect. Gerrard was good, as was Barry. No probs with the keeper.

4-5-1 next match please Fabio.
 
Horrible outcome for the US, but with an England win over Slovenia and US win over Algeria we should get through. Can't believe we got ripped by the referee so bad. WTH did he see that the rest of the world didnt'??

i don't think it's bad.
If the US beat algeria they are through, and they may even go through with a tie, if england doesn't beat slovenia, which at this point is not a given.

obviously with the win today they'd be in the driver seat, but they are in charge of their destiny, which is always a good thing.

I thought England was supposed to be good? Saw more from North Korea yesterday than from the English squad today.

which, considering north korea didn't play yesterday, is saying something ;) :D
 
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