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Columbus wanted way too much from everyone, but they only had a limited number of teams to deal with. Nash approved a bunch of teams that he would allow a trade to (he has a no-trade).

I don't know if he would have gone to SJ. Rumor is that he did/does not want to play for a west coast team.

Columbus wanted Gardner from the Leafs. No way Burke would deal him, even for Nash. He's going to be a solid 1-2 d-man (if he isn't already). He's looked like the best player on the ice for the Leafs for the past few games.

They wanted Del Zotto from the Rangers.



Columbus will probably have the #1 pick. They have the most balls in the drum, and have the best chance of winning the #1 pick, but it's still a lottery.



Unless they change the CBA, I don't think we'll be seeing exciting trade deadline days in the future. It's too hard for teams to move players with the cap. Plus, they were especially afraid to do anything extreme this year, because it is expected that the cap will be reduced for next season (that is, if there's a next season......a lockout/strike is possible).

EDIT: one more thing about Nash....it turns out that he did, in fact, request a trade. One thing I'd say about him, is that he went about it the right way. He didn't go to the media and say it there, he did it behind closed doors with his GM. That's the way to do it. I can't blame him for wanting out.....he's put everything into trying to make that team a winner, and management has just destroyed it. The president and GM WILL be fired at the end of the season.

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Overall it was a pretty lame deadline day. Sat around refreshing twitter and tsn all day and nothing happened until after 3pm. 3 words: Cody Freaking Hodgson!!!!!!
 
Turris is a scumbag. Leaves his feet and hits Corvo in the head. Ottawa & Boston play again in Boston on Tuesday. Ottawa is going to learn not to poke the bear. :D

It will be interesting to see what happens tonight. Corvo is after Turris although it will be only the second fight for both of them. Corvo has 1 fight in over 600 games. I hope he's been training... (though they are now saying that he's backing off his comments)

Bruins will have Thornton and now Ottawa will put in Konopka -- so they will likely go at it.

I thought that was an ugly hit too I'm very surprised that Shanny didn't do something about it. The inconsistency is getting rather obvious.
 
It will be interesting to see what happens tonight. Corvo is after Turris although it will be only the second fight for both of them. Corvo has 1 fight in over 600 games. I hope he's been training... (though they are now saying that he's backing off his comments)

Bruins will have Thornton and now Ottawa will put in Konopka -- so they will likely go at it.

I thought that was an ugly hit too I'm very surprised that Shanny didn't do something about it. The inconsistency is getting rather obvious.

Corvo came out and challenged Turris yesterday, but now he backtracked. He better just be doing that for PR sake and still give him a beatdown tonight, or I'll lose what little respect I have for him left. Hope once Zanon gets in the lineup Corvo rides the pine for the rest of the year and disappears to free agency.
 
Vancouver gave up a good, young scorer for an overrated tough guy because Marchand bullied them around last year in the SCF. We'll see how that plays out, but I feel that Buffalo won that trade.

Vancouver did give up a good young player. His game was finally coming around after some tough back injuries. Very sad to see him go.

But let's get real here. This isn't just about Marchand and the Bruins. This is about Chicago, Nashville, and San Jose last year. This is about Chicago in 2010, 2009. This is about Anaheim in 2007. Canucks looking for more toughness is nothing new. This is really about that "balance" Mike Gillis talked about.. being able to compete in finesse games (ie. Detroit) or being able to grind out a series.

Anyway. Neither Vancouver or Boston is in the SCFs in 2012 yet. Hopefully it'll happen.. no guarantees.
 
Wow- the Sens Beat the Bruins. Hell yes!

And they didn't even need Anderson to do it. That has to sting for Boston.

It's just one game in February. No big deal. First time Ottawa has beat us in five games this year.

Tim Thomas was UNREAL last night though.. too bad the rest of the team didn't show up until the last 10 minutes of the third period. If they gave that effort from the beginning, they would have at least put some goals on the board. Lehner played a good game though.

Joe Corvo is a bitch.


Also, do you ever make posts about other teams? Or your own team for that matter? Or do you just come to this thread when the Bruins lose to troll? :rolleyes: I mean, your Blackhawks have less points in the past 10 games then the Bruins. And they are in worse shape in the standings.
 
Wow- the Sens Beat the Bruins. Hell yes!

And they didn't even need Anderson to do it. That has to sting for Boston.

The Sens are legit and the Bruins are lucky they didn't lose on Saturday night too. If they play like crap they deserve to get beat. I don't think that the Sens played all that well though. Both goalies looked good.

Does it sting? A little... but the B's have 4 games in hand and are still ahead of the Sens in the standings. What really stung is watching the team sleepwalk through the first two periods.

Agree on Corvo -- it looked like the refs were trying to stop anything before it started but you can't call someone out and then not do anything.

EDIT- I think you are right on Zanon/Corvo. He's likely done once Boychuck comes back.
 
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EDIT- I think you are right on Zanon/Corvo. He's likely done once Boychuck comes back.

Seidenberg and Zanon both have experience on both the left and right sides, and obviously from last night you can see Julien isn't afraid to play Ference on the right either. That gives them a lot of flexibility in the defensive pairings.

If they want to use the Chara-Seidenberg shutdown pair:
Ference-Boychuk / Zanon-Boychuk
Zanon-McQuaid / Ference-McQuaid

If not:
Chara-Boychuk
Seidenberg-Zanon
Ference-McQuaid


Chara and Ference looked pretty effective together on the powerplay in the 3rd period last night. They should try to work with that more.
 
I think that if the Leafs lose against Chicago tonight, Wilson will be fired. If they didn't have to jump on a plane to Chicago right after last night's game, I think he may have been fired this morning.

If he's not fired after tonight's game, and we don't make the playoffs, he will definitely be fired after the season.

A small little part of me wants them to lose tonight.
 
Seidenberg and Zanon both have experience on both the left and right sides, and obviously from last night you can see Julien isn't afraid to play Ference on the right either. That gives them a lot of flexibility in the defensive pairings.

If they want to use the Chara-Seidenberg shutdown pair:
Ference-Boychuk / Zanon-Boychuk
Zanon-McQuaid / Ference-McQuaid

If not:
Chara-Boychuk
Seidenberg-Zanon
Ference-McQuaid


Chara and Ference looked pretty effective together on the powerplay in the 3rd period last night. They should try to work with that more.

Agree on the above. Personally I think they can mix and match as they'd like and it will mostly work out. I expect to see Chara/Seids playing nearly 28 mins per game in the playoffs.

I just listened to Brickley talking on D&C about the Corvo fight situation. Evidently the message was passed to Corvo and the Bruins that Turris wasn't fighting no matter what so save your energy, don't take a dumb penalty, and move on...

Take it for what it is worth...

Just found this article
 
I think that if the Leafs lose against Chicago tonight, Wilson will be fired. If they didn't have to jump on a plane to Chicago right after last night's game, I think he may have been fired this morning.

If he's not fired after tonight's game, and we don't make the playoffs, he will definitely be fired after the season.

A small little part of me wants them to lose tonight.

Well, they lost to the Hawks. Let's see if it happens.
 
Finally. Ron Wilson has been fired.

https://twitter.com/#!/DarrenDreger/status/175753176769765376

Rumor is that Randy Carlyle will be named the next head coach. I don't like it. I've heard he's similar to Wilson.....so what's the point?

I'd rather we went with Dallas Eakins, who is the Toronto Marlies' (our AHL team) head coach. He's been doing a great job with the Marlies, and is the one responsible for developing our young players. If he doesn't get the job in TO, he'll be a head coach somewhere else in the next couple of years.

Well, it seems to have been confirmed. Randy Carlyle is the next victim head coach.
 
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Finally. Ron Wilson has been fired.

https://twitter.com/#!/DarrenDreger/status/175753176769765376

Rumor is that Randy Carlyle will be named the next head coach. I don't like it. I've heard he's similar to Wilson.....so what's the point?

I'd rather we went with Dallas Eakins, who is the Toronto Marlies' (our AHL team) head coach. He's been doing a great job with the Marlies, and is the one responsible for developing our young players. If he doesn't get the job in TO, he'll be a head coach somewhere else in the next couple of years.

Well, it seems to have been confirmed. Randy Carlyle is the next victim head coach.

there goes your ipad...........

in seriousness-I have to agree-Caryle and Wilson are the same-they actually played together in the NHL (I actually think it was for the leafs). I think this was more about kicking his team in the butt-whether its too late or not we will know soon.
 
^^^^Carlyle was drafted by the Leafs, so they probably did play together in TO.

Burke just can't seem to stray from the familiar. All I know is that I wouldn't have hired Carlyle after seeing how the Ducks started out this season, and how they are playing now without him as coach. I'm curious to see what Carlyle will do with the assistant coaches......if he doesn't replace them, how will the culture change?

I really wish Eakins would have been given his shot.

there goes your ipad...........

Hey. It's still possible. Don't spend that $$$ just yet.:D:p
 
^^^^Carlyle was drafted by the Leafs, so they probably did play together in TO.

Burke just can't seem to stray from the familiar. All I know is that I wouldn't have hired Carlyle after seeing how the Ducks started out this season, and how they are playing now without him as coach. I'm curious to see what Carlyle will do with the assistant coaches......if he doesn't replace them, how will the culture change?

I really wish Eakins would have been given his shot.



Hey. It's still possible. Don't spend that $$$ just yet.:D:p

I dont think replacing an entire staff at this point in the season is wise-doing so basically means that you are going to use the rest of the regular season as a get-to-you-you rather than keeping some kind of similarity to ease the transition.

Who has the most say in the ownership group in terms of team direction and how does Burke get along with them?
 
I dont think replacing an entire staff at this point in the season is wise-doing so basically means that you are going to use the rest of the regular season as a get-to-you-you rather than keeping some kind of similarity to ease the transition.

Then it was pointless to do it now. The whole point to make the change now, with 18 games to go, is because you think the new guy will be able to get the team into the playoffs. Keeping the assistant coaches means that it will be hard for Carlyle to make any dramatic changes, especially where we need it: on the PP and PK.

If Burke thought that the season is lost, then he may as well make the change after the season. Doing it now without the proper staff is a bit half-assed IMO.

Who has the most say in the ownership group in terms of team direction and how does Burke get along with them?

Burke is in charge of the Maple Leafs. Period. He has carte blanche to do what he wants. This was one of his requirements when he took the job. The ownership has been very good about it. Burke is in charge of the Leafs, and Colangelo is in charge of the Raptors. The ownership does not interfere at all. MLSE is very unique in this....I don't think any other professional sports organization is structured that way.

They structured it this way because for decades the ownership had meddled with the Leafs. Whether it was the Teachers' Pension Plan, Steve Stavros, or Harold Ballard, it was very difficult for any GM to manage the team the way they wanted to. When John Ferguson Jr. was near the end of his term as GM (basically before Burke), he wanted to fire head coach Paul Maurice but the board didn't let him. Hell, there was even a deal to bring Gretzky to the Leafs in the 90's, but the board wouldn't approve the $$$$. Idiots.
 
I dont think replacing an entire staff at this point in the season is wise-doing so basically means that you are going to use the rest of the regular season as a get-to-you-you rather than keeping some kind of similarity to ease the transition.

Looks like Carlyle has brought one assistant coach along with him- Dave Farrish, who works with defencemen. Good. Our defense needs work.

I also don't think that the team needs this transition to be easy. They need to be worked hard so they can see what they're capable of.

I watched the presser this morning, and I liked what Carlyle and Burke had to say. Hopefully this will turn the team around.

The first test is tonight, against the Habs in Montreal. A win would be nice.
 
Looks like Carlyle has brought one assistant coach along with him- Dave Farrish, who works with defencemen. Good. Our defense needs work.

I also don't think that the team needs this transition to be easy. They need to be worked hard so they can see what they're capable of.

I watched the presser this morning, and I liked what Carlyle and Burke had to say. Hopefully this will turn the team around.

The first test is tonight, against the Habs in Montreal. A win would be nice.

how about a solid, 60 min performance win over a division rival?
 
how about a solid, 60 min performance win over a division rival?

I would hope they won. If they lost to the LAST PLACE canadiens they should have fired the coach they just hired. :D;)

The last place canadiens. :p:p

I just love writing that. :D haha
 
how about a solid, 60 min performance win over a division rival?

Yeah, that did nicely.

I would hope they won. If they lost to the LAST PLACE canadiens they should have fired the coach they just hired. :D;)

The last place canadiens. :p:p

I just love writing that. :D haha

The Leafs are 3-2 against the Habs this season. The Bruins are 4-2 against the Habs this season.

/just sayin'

(I too have no problem seeing the Habs in last place :D)


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This is all starting to get too confusing.

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It's like Pittsburgh's and Florida's sweaters got it on and gave birth to Columbus' sweater.

But are those designs better than the Ottawa Zeroes?
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