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I heard on the local news tonight they made a 2nd arrest in the case in CT where Hernandez is from.. must be one of his buddies. He's due in court here in MA tomorrow.
 
•Victim found 1/2 mile from Hernandez's home w/ numerous gunshot wounds
•5 .45 caliber shells found at the scene, fired from a semi-auto weapon, based on the locations and distance between them.
•Victim was not robbed, had wallet, keys and phone.
•Keys were to a rental car, registered to Hernandez.
•Phone contained text messages between the victim and Hernandez, within hours of the murder.
•Victim's sister said her brother left at 2:30 AM in a silver Nissan Altima with three people inside
•Hernandez had been renting a Silver Nissan Altima
•Hernandez had known the victim for about a year, The victims girlfriend is the sister of Hernadez's Fiance
•The police went to question Hernandez, Who didn't answer the door. a squad car was placed outside. Eventually Hernandez came out, and told the cops he knew they were they and that he had been watching them on his surveillance system
•A warrant was issued to seize surveillance footage from Hernandez's home.
•hernandez had recently installed a 14 camera system with cameras inside and out.
•Upon reviewing the footage, they noticed that the first 6-8 hours of footage after the time of the murder was missing.
•at 9:02 PM Hernandez texted a friend from out of state "please make it back"
•9:05 he texted the victim, indicating he wanted to come by and get together with him
•9:35 he texted the same out of state friend "get your ass up here" then at 10:23 "hurry your ass up"
•The man he was texting and one other showed up at hernandez's home, seen on surveillance footage
•Shortly after they arrive, Hernandez is seen with a firearm in his home on the surveillance system says "he is upset that he can't trust anyone anymore"
•the three left Hernandez's home at 1:12 AM in the silver Nissan Altima, captured on survelliance, phone records and cell tower
•the went from Hernadez's home to route 95, headed south towards (? couldn't understand) they turned around and went north. the cell phone tower tracked their movement to a gas station off route 128
•at 2:10AM Hernandez bought Gas, Bubbalicious blue cotton candy gum, and black and milds which are used for smoking mariujana (the prosecutor seems to be mistaken about common blunt cigars but oh well)
•Next they went to the victims home, at 2:32 am Hernandez sent a text "we're here" to the victim, this is when the victims sister saw him leave with them, Hernandez was driving
•They drove back to North Attleboro, this is corroborated by some random surveillance cameras and route was determined by time and distance traveled.
•during the ride, Hernandez had a conversation with the victim indicating he was upset with him. The two had gone to a club together friday night.
•he said some things happened that night and he wasn't sure if he could trust the victim, one of them was that the victim had spoken to some people He had troubles with, and he was mad about it.
•At 3:07 AM the victim sent a text to his sister "did you see who I am with" no response he texted again at 3:11 AM "Hello?"
•at 3:19 am his sister replied "who?" at 3:22 the victim texted back "NFL" then 1 minute later "Just so you know"
•at the time of these texts, the car is seen on surveillance cameras in the area of the murder site/Hernandez's home
•Surveilance cameras show the vehicle driving down the road to the murder site at 3:23 AM
•between 3:23 and 3:27 am workers nearby hear multiple gunshots
•cameras pick up the vehicle along the route between the muder site and Hernandez's home at 3:27 and 3:28 AM.
•Hernandez's own Surveilance picks sees him arriving back home at 3:29 AM
•Police confirm it is only a 2 minute drive.
•autopsy found that all evidence was consistent with the victim being murdered where he was found. In other words, he wasn't dumped. Also consistent Time of death to the time the car was there.
•two through and through wounds to the victim's chest. Police returned to the scene and dug where the victim was, they found the bullets, indicating the victim was on the ground when he was shot. Both bullets were .45 caliber, consistend with the casings found. All fired from the same unknown gun
•at 3:30 AM Hernandez is seen with his companions in his driveway, one of whom has a gun.
•they go inside. Surveillance shows Hernandez walking around with a gun in his hand.
•all three go to the basement. Surveillance cameras shut off
•later that day, 5:30 PM Hernandez and his companions return the Nissan Altima to the rental agency, Hernandez offers the attendant Blue Bubbalicious.
•one of the side mirrors is broken on the car, footage of the vehicle earlier in the night suggest it wasn't broken when he left boston, he tells the rental agency he didn't even notice it. The evidence being that it was broken sometime between leaving boston and arriving back at home.
•He rents another car and returns home, companions leave.
•At the rental agency, a piece of bubbalicious and a shell casing were found, attendant threw them away. When questioned, she told investigators about it, they found it in the dumpster, Shell casing matched to the murder weapon.
•Tire impressions at the murder scene right next to the body were consistent with a front wheel drive vehicle (altima is FWD)
•Investigators checked out the rental car. Tire treads matched those at the crime scene. Dirt found on the car also matched the crimescene
•They found a .22 nearby in a search of everywhere between Hernandez's home and the murder site. Hernandez a month prior had been involved an altercation in providence rhode island. He had someone with him who was seen to place a gun under a car. This man matches the description of one of his companions on the night of the murder.
•The gun under the car in Providence was traced to a florida gunstore. The 22 found between Hernandez's home and the murder site was from the same store.
•further search warrant of Hernandezs's home ordered. They found 22 ammo, but no 22 gun. They also found a large capacity .762 hungarian semi auto rifle, 32 round clip fully loaded. Hernandez's prints on it, he doesn't have the correct paperwork to own it.
•Not recovered was the Black semi auto handgun seen in Hernnadez's hand before and after the murder. the second individuals gun not found either.
•hernandez's girlfriend was spoken to by police, she was cooperanting until a call from hernandez telling her not to. She then stopped talking.
•the victim had defensive wounds and seemed to attempt to stop the bullets with his arms.
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That wasn't just murder. That was a coldblooded execution. I'm betting the second guy they picked up is the guy Hernandez texted asking him to come back at 9:35 and 10:23. I would not be surprised if Hernandez threatened his girlfriend at some point during that phone call.

Would not be surprised if Gainesville Police take a second look at the double shooting he was supposedly questioned about.
 
benthewraith said:
That wasn't just murder. That was a coldblooded execution. I'm betting the second guy they picked up is the guy Hernandez texted asking him to come back at 9:35 and 10:23. I would not be surprised if Hernandez threatened his girlfriend at some point during that phone call.

Would not be surprised if Gainesville Police take a second look at the double shooting he was supposedly questioned about.
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I wonder if the Police have a name of the second person yet? The plot thickens. And I agree re: coldblooded execution. Kind of makes one wonder what else he has done.
 
It's become obvious. Hernandez has been a gang member since he was a teen and has committed murder in the past. The look on his face during arraignment sickens me. We need to reevaluate our sports culture and the way players are compensated. They are held in such high esteem that they think they are gods, and in some ways are compared to the rest of us suckers that actually have to follow the moral codes of society /sarcasm.
 
rhett7660 said:
I wonder if the Police have a name of the second person yet? The plot thickens. And I agree re: coldblooded execution. Kind of makes one wonder what else he has done.
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http://www.boston.com/news/local/co...d-hernandez/6xDDLT4kT56Cx6vVcK7XfL/story.html

BRISTOL, Conn. (AP) — A prosecutor says the arrest of a Connecticut man is linked to the murder investigation involving former New England Patriots player Aaron Hernandez.

New Britain State’s Attorney Brian Preleski says 27-year-old Carlos Ortiz was charged as a fugitive from justice and has waived extradition to Massachusetts. Prison records show Ortiz is being held on $1.5 million bail at a Hartford jail.
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Source: Hernandez being looked at in connection to Boston double-homicide

BOSTON (MyFoxBoston.com) -- FOX 25 has learned exclusively that investigators are looking into Aaron Hernandez in connection to a double homicide that happened on July 16, 2012 in downtown Boston.

According to the Boston Police blog from that date, officers responded to the intersection of Shawmut Avenue and Herald Street just after 2 a.m. When they arrived, they found three people had been shot, two fatally, as they sat in a car at a traffic light.

The men were identified as Safiro Furtado and Daniel Abreu. The FOX 25 source said the men, who worked at a cleaning company in Dorchester, had just left a bar in the area.

Furtado and Abreu were sitting in the front seat of the vehicle when witnesses said the occupants of a gray or silver SUV with Rhode Island plates opened fire on it. The surviving victim was in the back seat. Investigators believed two others in the car fled the scene.

The source said that investigators were looking into Aaron Hernandez in connection to the killing.
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http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/22...rnandez-investigated-in-boston-double-killing
 
rdowns said:
Source: Hernandez being looked at in connection to Boston double-homicide



http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/22...rnandez-investigated-in-boston-double-killing
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After seeing the arraignment yesterday and hearing all the details of the crime, he's probably involved with that too. You're clearly a cold blooded killer if you show no emotion whatsoever.

What a ****ing scumbag. Hope he enjoyed the first night of his stay in jail last night. It must suck knowing that's all you're going to know for the rest of your life, never be free again, never be able to be with your girlfriend or hold your baby ever again. Serves him right... karma and justice is a bitch.
 
Bail denied.

From the bail hearing.

11:24 AM PT -- The prosecutor just said they're seeking a life sentence for Hernandez without the possibility of parole
 
einmusiker said:
It's become obvious. Hernandez has been a gang member since he was a teen and has committed murder in the past. The look on his face during arraignment sickens me. We need to reevaluate our sports culture and the way players are compensated. They are held in such high esteem that they think they are gods, and in some ways are compared to the rest of us suckers that actually have to follow the moral codes of society /sarcasm.
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I understand your outrage, but it would appear in the case of Hernandez that he was involved in this kind of activity/lifestyle long before he became a professional athlete. Let's not go too far in equating being a self absorbed ego driven pro athlete with being a murderer. Many athletes could be described as the former, not so many as the latter.
 
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Peace said:
I wanna know why the patriots even got this guy. they knew he had gang connections.
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There's STILL no proof of this. While he did associate with some questionable characters back home and may have not been a model citizen in college, the worst thing he did that was actually documented was test positive for smoking pot.

There's plenty of NFL players who have associates of questionable character. It's not like they could have predicted the guy would become a murderer 3 years later.
 
Peace said:
I wanna know why the patriots even got this guy. they knew he had gang connections.
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If you want to be successful in the NFL, the later rounds are the best place to go for risk/reward. Every team does it, or tries to do it. The rap sheet on Hernandez was he smoked weed and was immature.

I realize everyone wants to inject hindsight, but if you think there was obvious evidence he'd be a murderer, you're mistaken.
 
zioxide said:
There's STILL no proof of this. While he did associate with some questionable characters back home and may have not been a model citizen in college, the worst thing he did that was actually documented was test positive for smoking pot.

There's plenty of NFL players who have associates of questionable character. It's not like they could have predicted the guy would become a murderer 3 years later.
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Queen of Spades said:
If you want to be successful in the NFL, the later rounds are the best place to go for risk/reward. Every team does it, or tries to do it. The rap sheet on Hernandez was he smoked weed and was immature.

I realize everyone wants to inject hindsight, but if you think there was obvious evidence he'd be a murderer, you're mistaken.
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While that's true. His association with gang members goes back a ways.

I'm not saying NFL players are all saints. A lot of them have "issues ".
 
Peace said:
While that's true. His association with gang members goes back a ways.

I'm not saying NFL players are all saints. A lot of them have "issues ".
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You said you wanted to know why the Patriots got this guy. I gave you the reason - risk/reward. Not only was he unbelievably talented as a football player, but there was the legitimate belief that he was a good guy who would blossom under the leadership in NE.

You answered the question yourself. A lot of NFL players have issues. It's part of the business.

And it looks like the motive is becoming clear. I don't know how I'm still being surprised by this case, but I am. July 2012 was right around the time he signed that huge extension and charmed us all by talking about how it'd changed his and his family's life. Horrible.
 

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Patriots are sure having quite the off-season. Who would have thought they'd be able to knock Rex Ryan running with the bulls in Spain off the back pages. :D

Gotta feel bad for the fans who swapped an Hernandez jersey for a Dennard one. :eek:


Patriots defensive back Alfonzo Dennard was arrested early Thursday morning in Lincoln, Neb., for driving under the influence, according to reports out of Nebraska.

Dennard, who in February was sentenced to 30 days in jail, 24 months probation and 100 hours of community service for assaulting a police officer outside a bar in Nebraska last year, was pulled over for straddling lane lines, police said. He then refused a chemical test and was arrested.

Dennard, a former University of Nebraska star, was found guilty in February of assaulting a police officer and resisting arrest, stemming from an incident that happened April 21, 2012, days before he was drafted by the Patriots.
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