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The 2018-2019 NCAA Football Season

smallcoffee said:
Sorry I don’t think he does. He’s the second or third best (depending on if you count Dabo) but OSU is bigger than Meyer and always will be. They have a history of firing coaches national championship or not.

Did he? What did he do to cover this up? The police knew, Gene Smith knew, OSU’s Title IX office knew, other coaches knew (including Tom Herman going to strip clubs with Zach Smith). He definitely shouldn’t have given him a long leash but I don’t think he covered anything up.

Not true. Most college sports don’t make money, and many are subsidized by basketball or football programs. The programs that do make money give that money back to the university. It’s conpletely false to claim they are about profit when they can’t generate a profit.
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There is a perception, especially those in the top 25, will make a lot of money for the schools. A lot. Not to mention those who have secured tv rights for their teams. Does every single program out there make money? Of course not, but the majority of the top schools do make money.

The article is a just over a year old, but I would be surprised if the numbers moved to much. If number 25 sits at making 51.2 million, that is a lot of room for programs 26 and lower to make some money.

https://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/index.ssf/2017/05/richest_college_football_progr.html
 
Urban Meyer's legacy won't be about the games or championships his teams have won
It will be about his failures with his players and coaches in order to achieve those wins
 
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I really don't want to keep participating in this thread because it's supposed to be about the upcoming season. However, I will point out that the majority of NCAA D-I football programs lose money, and 90% of all D-I athletic departments operate in the red. These departments are subsidized by university general funds, which are almost all from student fees. We all know how expensive college is nowadays, and a large part of this is from increased student fees. For example, my university (a mid-major with >30,000 students) subsidizes the athletic department by more than $12 million per year, and the football program loses money each year. Meanwhile, the NCAA has a net worth of nearly $1 billion dollars! And as a tax-exempt organization, it simply accrues more and more each year. They pay a lot of lip service to what they "provide" but in reality, it's just another business.

The driving force behind these never-ending subsidies to athletic departments by university regents and presidents is the perception that having an athletic program leads to alumni donations, which they do for sure. However, a lack of transparency makes it difficult to know how much of the subsidies are from the donations because university foundations, which handle donations, are set up as private entities so they do not have to comply with public sunshine laws.
 
rhett7660 said:
There is a perception, especially those in the top 25, will make a lot of money for the schools. A lot. Not to mention those who have secured tv rights for their teams. Does every single program out there make money? Of course not, but the majority of the top schools do make money.

The article is a just over a year old, but I would be surprised if the numbers moved to much. If number 25 sits at making 51.2 million, that is a lot of room for programs 26 and lower to make some money.

https://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/index.ssf/2017/05/richest_college_football_progr.html
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Sure - I don’t think I’ve disagreed on this point.
 
And the season is underway - woohoo

Oklahoma St reliance on the run during the game was surprising. While this was Cornelius first start and he did throw for 5 TDs, he seemed inaccurate with his throws. I think the score could have been even higher had he connected in the first half. Overall though the outcome was what I expected

There's a few games on tonight that grab my interest :)
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I think Harbaugh is in uncharted territory this year - the hot seat. He's largely had unbridled success as where ever he was, but he's been stymied at Michigan. What made matters worse was the sky high expectations upon his arrival.

Tonight they play Notre Dame, and Brian Kelly is I'm sure feeling the pressure himself. While Notre Dame has had some success under him, they've not consistently broken through the top. It could be me, but it seems that Notre Dame has trouble with big games, and while this is only game 1 of the 2018 season. I think its an important game for both to win.
 
maflynn said:
I think Harbaugh is in uncharted territory this year - the hot seat. He's largely had unbridled success as where ever he was, but he's been stymied at Michigan. What made matters worse was the sky high expectations upon his arrival.

Tonight they play Notre Dame, and Brian Kelly is I'm sure feeling the pressure himself. While Notre Dame has had some success under him, they've not consistently broken through the top. It could be me, but it seems that Notre Dame has trouble with big games, and while this is only game 1 of the 2018 season. I think its an important game for both to win.
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It definitely is important and when we talk about difficulty in big games what I think is that it means they haven’t made the team good enough to be higher quality opponents.

For Harbaugh though he’s actually had chance to win games vs Ohio State and Michigan State but some things just didn’t go his way. I think it would be a mistake for Michigan to fire him.
 
smallcoffee said:
I think it would be a mistake for Michigan to fire him.
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I don't think they will, but he's certainly feeling the pressure, and in all honesty now that he has an excellent quarterback he has no excuses.
 
No real surprises, other then Penn State, when is a win, not a win? When you barely beat App. State.

West Virginia looked really good against Tenn. I have to say Tenn, held their own, I think they'll probably do ok this year.
 
I don't think anyone expected Alabama to have trouble beating Louisville, and they didn't. But, as Saban said after the game, they have a lot to work on. Several dumb penalties and missed coverages, but they'll get there. And freshman Jaylen Waddle was very impressive, particularly on special teams. He would have had a punt return TD had it not been nullified by one of the penalties.

And it's clear that the fastest way to set Saban off these days is to ask about the QB situation, as Maria Taylor did the other day. At least he called her to apologize. Saban is very loyal to Hurts, understandably so. However, Tagovailoa is a better QB, especially in the passing game, so I expect him to be the starter.
 
Unless Tagovailoa folds under pressure, I do not see Hurts getting his job back. It is unfortunate to say but he worked hard in getting back to the title game (as told by the story leading up to the game) but his poor play and benching pretty much killed his morale because the limited time he was in, he looked pretty bad.
 
iLog.Genius said:
Unless Tagovailoa folds under pressure, I do not see Hurts getting his job back. It is unfortunate to say but he worked hard in getting back to the title game (as told by the story leading up to the game) but his poor play and benching pretty much killed his morale because the limited time he was in, he looked pretty bad.
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I agree. Despite Hurts' impressive record, he hasn't improved much, if at all, since his first season. He still doesn't seem to see receivers in the open downfield and tends to scramble too soon. The contrast with Tagovailoa, who can make passes in tight situations, is clear.

The question is what Hurts will do from now on. If he plays four or fewer games, he gets one more year of eligibility. Saban has said that he won't take that into account, though. I think he'd like Hurts to stay around as backup, but doesn't quite want to say that. For his part, Hurts could land a QB job at another school, but he's not going to play that position in the NFL.
 
VT-FSU was a fun game, VT's defense looked potent.
 
The rankings are out, no real surprises out thee. Michigan, Penn State, Washington and Miami are the biggest movers down. Miami may be off the list soon enough if they looked as bad as they did last week. I really wanted Michigan to do well this year, hopefully they will
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maflynn said:
The rankings are out, no real surprises out thee. Michigan, Penn State, Washington and Miami are the biggest movers down. Miami may be off the list soon enough if they looked as bad as they did last week. I really wanted Michigan to do well this year, hopefully they will
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You and me both re: Michigan, however I don't see it happening. I could be wrong, but I see another loss to that team from the big "O". Ugh.
 
rhett7660 said:
but I see another loss to that team from the big "O". Ugh.
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I don't expect them to win that game, but they're playing Western Michigan this week, but I think overall they have a shot at winning the other games
 
And Kentucky beats Florida for the first time in 31 years...in Florida...

I'm a typical Kentucky fan in that football exists to tide us over until Basketball season, but this is certainly a good start to SEC play.
 
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