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I think we could have attacked more. But we could have lost by more. I think he was hoping to frustrate them more and get something on the break. I think Chelsea will get the last CL place.

Chelsea has to be the favorite with all their depth and talent available. They used to score and concede freely under Lampard, but now under Tuchel they've tightened up dramatically at the back but the goals have dried up on the other end despite all the attacking talent available to them.

So yeah, there's hope for the Hammers and I do hope you nick it.
 
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Chelsea has to be the favorite with all their depth and talent available. They used to score and concede freely under Lampard, but now under Tuchel they've tightened up dramatically at the back but the goals have dried up on the other end despite all the attacking talent available to them.

So yeah, there's hope for the Hammers and I do hope you nick it.
Me too!
 
Chelsea has to be the favorite with all their depth and talent available. They used to score and concede freely under Lampard, but now under Tuchel they've tightened up dramatically at the back but the goals have dried up on the other end despite all the attacking talent available to them.

So yeah, there's hope for the Hammers and I do hope you nick it.

I think that there is a better atmosphere at Chelsea under Tuchel, (than was the case under Lampard).

And Liverpool defeat Wolves (by a goal to nil).
 
Normally I'd be over the moon for win, even over a struggling Wolves side. But the result was totally overshadowed by Patricio's horrible injury. I do hope makes a full and speedy recovery.

Liverpool have been exceptionally unfortunate with injuries this season, and anyone who writes about, or comments on, their current loss of form should not over-look this.
 
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Hard to overlook it. It gets mentioned so often!
As I said before, it's not the only reason. Some teams have gotten better at dealing with Liverpool's style of press, and the players have been suffering from both mental and physical fatigue. The key injuries were the catalyst for the collapse in form and results but not the sole cause.

There is still a chance for a top four finish, for now. But it is more likely that Liverpool will suffer a fate worse than death - qualification to the Europa League.
 
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As I said before, it's not the only reason. Some teams have gotten better at dealing with Liverpool's style of press, and the players have been suffering from both mental and physical fatigue. The key injuries were the catalyst for the collapse in form and results but not the sole cause.

There is still a chance for a top four finish, for now. But it is more likely that Liverpool will suffer a fate worse than death - qualification to the Europa League.
I wouldn’t rule you out of top four just yet!
 
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As a FC Barcelona (Spain) and CR Vasco da Gama (Brazil) supporter, I have nothing to say on this thread 🤣🤣🤷‍♂️

Why not? There's an awful lot of football being played beyond the shores of old Blighty, and most of us are interested in it.
 
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Why not? There's an awful lot of football being played beyond the shores of old Blighty, and most of us are interested in it.
Speaking of which...VAR ruined an absolute classic in the A-League on Monday night NZT.
Wellington Phoenix vs Western Sydney Wanderers.
4-3 to WSW and in the very late stages of added time, the Nix scored a great goal through import Tomer Hemed.
Much celebration and obvious angst on the other side, then the inevitable "Stop - we have a VAR call pending"...
Hemed ruled offside by the width of a pubic hair and on a bizarre camera angle that made it impossible to really tell.
As a Nix fan I was gutted and feel quite aggrieved even now.

Hairline offsides shouldn't decide outcomes of matches. Clear and Obvious errors should. And it was his upper arm that was ruled to be offside - you can't score with that part of your body (T-Shirt line rule or not) so you shouldn't be able to be offside from it.
Even the WSW fans online were saying it ruined the game and made it feel like a hollow victory of sorts.

VAR needs to be improved. In every league it's used.
 
Speaking of which...VAR ruined an absolute classic in the A-League on Monday night NZT.
Wellington Phoenix vs Western Sydney Wanderers.
4-3 to WSW and in the very late stages of added time, the Nix scored a great goal through import Tomer Hemed.
Much celebration and obvious angst on the other side, then the inevitable "Stop - we have a VAR call pending"...
Hemed ruled offside by the width of a pubic hair and on a bizarre camera angle that made it impossible to really tell.
As a Nix fan I was gutted and feel quite aggrieved even now.

Hairline offsides shouldn't decide outcomes of matches. Clear and Obvious errors should. And it was his upper arm that was ruled to be offside - you can't score with that part of your body (T-Shirt line rule or not) so you shouldn't be able to be offside from it.
Even the WSW fans online were saying it ruined the game and made it feel like a hollow victory of sorts.

VAR needs to be improved. In every league it's used.
I'm a natural Wellington Phoenix fan, as their colors are similar to Columbus Crew SC's Black and Gold. I've been eyeing their current shirt actually...
 
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VAR needs to be improved. In every league it's used.

This is the biggest truth today. VAR as it is now, has a big role in how the game result unfolds. The referees are very dependent of them as of now (at least in South America they are).

The Brazilian national league, for example, had controversial games and one of them was a game between the (at that time) current leader of the championship and my team, Vasco da Gama, who was in a big fight against their fourth relegation in last 12 years. The game was very crucial to seal the fate of my team in this championship, with two games to go. We lost a game we could draw if the VAR worked as it should, but they didn't, justifying by "technical difficulties" with the stadium sunlight (seriously? After 36 rounds without issues there?) then another 2 draws in the following away and home games sealed our fate. We just needed to win only one game, and we could even get a draw in the next two to save ourselves.

The other team went to lose the championship in their final minutes of their last game, when VAR wasn't called to review a possible penalty that could give them the title. The word on the street is that it was a penalty, while in our game against them, their goal was a clear offside move.

We are still protesting to revert that decision. We were not just relegated, we lost at least 100 million brazilian reais in money if we had managed to stay in first division. Now, with at least other seven big first division teams in a second division with 20 teams, we are facing the strongest ever Brazilian second division fight this year, with four spaces for promotion next season to fight for. And we will do that with debts and no money. God help us...

VAR needs to improve, yes. But also needs more honest referees. In Brazil, we don't have many.
 
This is the biggest truth today. VAR as it is now, has a big role in how the game result unfolds. The referees are very dependent of them as of now (at least in South America they are).

The Brazilian national league, for example, had controversial games and one of them was a game between the (at that time) current leader of the championship and my team, Vasco da Gama, who was in a big fight against their fourth relegation in last 12 years. The game was very crucial to seal the fate of my team in this championship, with two games to go. We lost a game we could draw if the VAR worked as it should, but they didn't, justifying by "technical difficulties" with the stadium sunlight (seriously? After 36 rounds without issues there?) then another 2 draws in the following away and home games sealed our fate. We just needed to win only one game, and we could even get a draw in the next two to save ourselves.

The other team went to lose the championship in their final minutes of their last game, when VAR wasn't called to review a possible penalty that could give them the title. The word on the street is that it was a penalty, while in our game against them, their goal was a clear offside move.

We are still protesting to revert that decision. We were not just relegated, we lost at least 100 million brazilian reais in money if we had managed to stay in first division. Now, with at least other seven big first division teams in a second division with 20 teams, we are facing the strongest ever Brazilian second division fight this year, with four spaces for promotion next season to fight for. And we will do that with debts and no money. God help us...

VAR needs to improve, yes. But also needs more honest referees. In Brazil, we don't have many.



As a Sheffield Wednesday fan I feel your pain.

Sadly it is our own ineptitude to blame and not extenuating circumstances.
 
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Liverpool have drawn their exit from the Champions League in the form of Real Madrid. The draw is pretty meh overall, all the usual suspects facing weaker opposition but there hasn't been as much sparkle this season - and given the upcoming format changes it's going to become an even longer and duller competition in the future.

Man City have never had a better chance to win it, though Bayern still look sharp and you can never count Real Madrid out of anything. Chelsea a dark horse under Tuchel.

The Europa League is arguably a more interesting competition this year. Could see a Manchester duopoly in European titles.
 
You never know what you're going to get out of Real Madrid, so I wouldn't write off Liverpool entirely, especially if they find some consistent form soon.

After gutting it through AC Milan, United does have a pretty good chance of winning the UEL. They drew Granada in the next round, which is actually a pretty kind draw for a change, but they'd have to face Roma or Ajax afterwards — neither one appears insurmountable or anything.

Once again yesterday, Ole didn't use any subs, barring Pogba for Rashford, which was necessitated by Rashford aggravating an injury in the first half. With some more players gaining fitness again, he's got to figure out rotation again so players like Bruno can get a rest — poor guy looked utterly spent yesterday. They'll have to summon some superhuman reserve of energy to give Leicester City a game in the FA Cup on Sunday.
 
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I've watched Roma a couple times recently (thanks to my cheap ESPN+ subscription) and while a good side they didn't strike me as a team likely to knock Man Utd out of Europe.

I wouldn't absolutely rule Liverpool out against Real but it would require a dramatic upturn in form plus some luck to beat them over two legs. Not gonna happen, I think. The trademark late Sergio Ramos header is the footballing equivalent of the little button under the Roulette table that makes sure the ball always ends up on the right number.
 
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