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Now that the Jan window beckons, its kinda funny that clubs are placing £/€100m valuations on players linked with a move, based on a World Cup that has been devoid of any real quality.

Shocking/entertaining moments sure...but no real player(s) have lit up the tournament.

Perhaps a defence mechanism to avoid selling
 
Now that the Jan window beckons, its kinda funny that clubs are placing £/€100m valuations on players linked with a move, based on a World Cup that has been devoid of any real quality.
Remember James Rodriguez? The WC can be a great shop window, but you don't always get what you paid for. Portugal have a few players who play domestically who looked good an might get poached.
 
Their number 7 looked like one for the future. Want him?😜
Interesting to see if this finally sours Portugal on CR7. The graceful move would be to get the few additional caps he needs to break the appearance record and then retire. But I wouldn’t be totally shocked so see him still moping about the pitch at the next Euros…for someone so sensitive about being disrespected he seems never to have learned the Golden Rule.

Of course, for him, there’s a fate worse than being disrespected…being ignored. When only Piers Morgan wants to talk to you, you’ve fallen far indeed.
 
Interesting to see if this finally sours Portugal on CR7. The graceful move would be to get the few additional caps he needs to break the appearance record and then retire. But I wouldn’t be totally shocked so see him still moping about the pitch at the next Euros…for someone so sensitive about being disrespected he seems never to have learned the Golden Rule.

Of course, for him, there’s a fate worse than being disrespected…being ignored. When only Piers Morgan wants to talk to you, you’ve fallen far indeed.
I suspect he might find a way to hang around (like a bad smell) at the Euros!
 
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Interesting to see if this finally sours Portugal on CR7. The graceful move would be to get the few additional caps he needs to break the appearance record and then retire. But I wouldn’t be totally shocked so see him still moping about the pitch at the next Euros…for someone so sensitive about being disrespected he seems never to have learned the Golden Rule.

Of course, for him, there’s a fate worse than being disrespected…being ignored. When only Piers Morgan wants to talk to you, you’ve fallen far indeed.

I suspect he might find a way to hang around (like a bad smell) at the Euros!
Yes, but even for Portugal, the law of diminishing returns - on a variety of different levels - will apply, which will inevitably beg the question of, at what stage does managemnet and the team decide to cut their losses with CR7?
 
Yes, but even for Portugal, the law of diminishing returns - on a variety of different levels - will apply, which will inevitably beg the question of, at what stage does managemnet and the team decide to cut their losses with CR7?
Probably when Mendes allows it :rolleyes:

Rumour has it that Santos is also gone (about 4 years too late) so perhaps there will be something new. Not betting on that one unfortunately.
 
Yes, but even for Portugal, the law of diminishing returns - on a variety of different levels - will apply, which will inevitably beg the question of, at what stage does managemnet and the team decide to cut their losses with CR7?
The trouble there is any manager that drops him simply has to perform without him. Less they are told you’d have done better at this tournament with him.
 
Yeah, this World Cup put the GOAT question completely to bed. Messi doesn't even need to win the final, but it would be the icing on the cake.
 
I've always argued the Messi v Ronaldo argument was pointless, but if we must have it I think we can now conclude it. Apart from raw goal numbers I think Messi comes out a clear winner. Assuming he doesn't 'pull a Ronaldo' and torpedo his legacy through some awful behavior in the future.

I still think France are the best team in the tournament but Argentina will feel they have momentum and can go all the way.

As much as I have to root for Morocco against France, an Argentina - Morocco final would be the dampest of damp squibs...but at least that would shatter the growing 'Qatar is problematic but this is a great WC' line of thinking. 🤣
 
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I've always argued the Messi v Ronaldo argument was pointless, but if we must have it I think we can now conclude it. Apart from raw goal numbers I think Messi comes out a clear winner. Assuming he doesn't 'pull a Ronaldo' and torpedo his legacy through some awful behavior in the future.

I still think France are the best team in the tournament but Argentina will feel they have momentum and can go all the way.

As much as I have to root for Morocco against France, an Argentina - Morocco final would be the dampest of damp squibs...but at least that would shatter the growing 'Qatar is problematic but this is a great WC' line of thinking.

The only problem with Messi’s legacy is he’s only competed in one major European league his whole career. At least Ronaldo has won in 3 of them even if he’s not as naturally gifted. Not keen on either of them as people though as both portray themselves as being extremely self absorbed and demanding. There’s other players out there that get my respect first.
 
Re Matt LeTissier; yeah, the Anne Frank comment was poorly judged, the Covid comments just daft, and the Ukraine stuff no more than opinion. But I think the kind of sentiment behind it all is about not simply beleiving what we are told, and always questioning things, to seek the real truth. It's just he hasn't exactly gone about it in a particularly intelligent manner. Tbh he's no different to millions of others really, is he? I always try to understand where people are coming from, rather than leaping to judgement. If you're a 'public figure', you need to consider your comments carefully though; it's not like saying something down the pub when you've had a few, that most people will have forgotten by the morning. Social Media is FOREVER. Ask David Baddiel. At least LeTissier apologised straight away...
 
I've always argued the Messi v Ronaldo argument was pointless
It is; Messi is greater, end of story.

I wanted to be gleeful over Cronaldo's ignominious exit form the world footballing stage, but I've had to set my own ego aside to consider the human being. He lost a child this year that must be the very worst thing anyone can go through, so I think perhaps he's allowed a little leeway. Tbh his behaviour has always been ******; he was an arrogant **** at Man U the first time, and he's only got worse the richer he has become. People with such public adoration can often become obsessed with their own myth; look at that US rapper bloke who likes Trump and White supremacists. What I think is at the root of Cronaldo's issues, though, is ultimately a sense of inadequacy. Indeed, a lot of his behaviour on and off the field suggests this. You can have all the money in the world, have millions of adoring fans, and still feel inadequate. The issue of mental illness in our society isn't recognised in the way it should be, and many men are suffering crises of their masuclinity and all sorts. Take Roy Keane; gives it the biggun all the time, loves his 'hard man' image, but really it's a smokescreen for his real inner inadequacies as a man. Quite pathetic really. George Best; amazingly gifted footballer, absolute **** of a man, a real disgrace. Revered as a true great on the pitch; violently abused women. The gifts cannot excuse the demons. Yet where is the support such men need? Football particularly is a sport where you have to appear tough, and able to face any adversary, but those inner torments are the hardest to come up against. It's about time that such figures were looked at for what they really are; George Best was a violent abuser of women, who happened to play football. This is a male issue; it's up to men to address it, and call it out, and confront those demons. Cronaldo has always been a selfish narcissist who thinks it's all about HIM. Such men need other men to point out that its really, really not.
 
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