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The 2022-2023 Football Thread
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Croatia finish third. Morocco were up for it in a tight match, though, and I think both teams will come away feeling they’ve had an excellent tournament and left everything on the pitch.
A rather boring match for 80 minutes and then France decided to play football.
Both penalties resulted from boneheaded fouls; both goals from open play were absolutely superb.
Very disappointed to see this going to extra time though; I am always anti-shootout. Hopefully somebody knocks one in and decides this before we get there.
Both penalties resulted from boneheaded fouls; both goals from open play were absolutely superb.
Very disappointed to see this going to extra time though; I am always anti-shootout. Hopefully somebody knocks one in and decides this before we get there.
Neither side deserve to lose at this point
Bad luck France but Mbappe is young so he'll get more chances. Unwanted historical stat of scoring a hat-trick and still losing but Messi signs off with a clean sweep and cements his status.
Bad luck France but Mbappe is young so he'll get more chances. Unwanted historical stat of scoring a hat-trick and still losing but Messi signs off with a clean sweep and cements his status.
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To be fair him and Messi have won a hell of a lot in World football and I doubt Ronaldo is too upset. Messi won the World Cup that Ronaldo never has but Ronaldo has won in Europes three biggest leagues, whereas Messi never will. It’s all different metrics.
Winning World Cup is the ultimate dream. Doesn’t come close to winning leagues. And it was evident when Ronaldo walked off the pitch all alone when they lost to Morocco.
Obviously depends on who is judging and is subjective I’d say. A lot of hard work shows into winning leagues and they are over a longer period but of course the World Cup is the ultimate at an international level. I’d take liverpool winning a league over seeing England win it in Qatar but of course others will have different dreams.
As a fan i myself will take Arsenal winning the league over England winning the WC. But of course players think differently. All that hardwork by them leads to getting selected for their national teams.
Plus i feel more sad for Mbappe than being happier for Messi. But in my opinion after tonight the debate is finally put to bed. Is CR7 the GOAT or is LM10 the GOAT.
Best World Cup final I’ve seen in my lifetime, through it didn’t look that way for most of regular time. The only fly in the ointment is that it went to PKs and the shootout wasn’t even a good shoutout. I had no dog in this race and was thus able to enjoy it fully. Griezmann, who should have been a key player for France, was anonymous. The French defense were as shaky as we feared, though Upecamayo was immense in the late stages. The cameras focused on the taker during the final whistle to avoid the possibility of watching the Argentina players taunt their defeated opponents again; the TV folk were ready for that this time, though it didn’t happen.
Argentina are at the end of a cycle and managed to get over the line; France are still probably the best national team in the world and will have most of this team available for at least another cycle, probably more.
The GOAT debate is meaningless to me; what difference does it make which individual player is the best ever? Nobody can know anyway. With that being said, Messi is clearly among the all-time best and Mbappe could certainly join him at the rate he’s going.
On the non-footballing side, Qatar were a joke as hosts (‘why are workers dying?’ ‘Well, death is a part of life’), FIFA are an irretrievably corrupt organization and the US coverage on Fox was fawningly craven. When are people going to finally tire of that boob Alexi Lalas? Worst American ‘pundit’ by a light year.
This World Cup underscored that football governance is completely, utterly broken. Now they’re talking about a 32 -team Club World Cup. Does greed have no limit?
Argentina are at the end of a cycle and managed to get over the line; France are still probably the best national team in the world and will have most of this team available for at least another cycle, probably more.
The GOAT debate is meaningless to me; what difference does it make which individual player is the best ever? Nobody can know anyway. With that being said, Messi is clearly among the all-time best and Mbappe could certainly join him at the rate he’s going.
On the non-footballing side, Qatar were a joke as hosts (‘why are workers dying?’ ‘Well, death is a part of life’), FIFA are an irretrievably corrupt organization and the US coverage on Fox was fawningly craven. When are people going to finally tire of that boob Alexi Lalas? Worst American ‘pundit’ by a light year.
This World Cup underscored that football governance is completely, utterly broken. Now they’re talking about a 32 -team Club World Cup. Does greed have no limit?
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32? 48 I heard.
As a neutral I enjoyed the game. But I’d have been gutted if I was French to come back twice and then still lose.
Anyway 8 more days and the PL kicks off. Yay!
Yup. Come on Arsenal 💪🏻.
Optimistic me have already booked a day off end of PL season for Victory parade.
Realistic me have already booked a day off end of PL season for time out with family in the Capital.
Lol. A colleague booked the day off for the same thing the year Liverpool finished second. I took the piss something chronic!
We saw two wonderful things in the final, today.
Obviously, Messi finally getting his World Cup at the sunset of his incredible career, but the real highlight for me (and I am sure for many) was this:
Obviously, Messi finally getting his World Cup at the sunset of his incredible career, but the real highlight for me (and I am sure for many) was this:
Disgraceful.We saw two wonderful things in the final, today.
Obviously, Messi finally getting his World Cup at the sunset of his incredible career, but the real highlight for me (and I am sure for many) was this:
We saw two wonderful things in the final, today.
Obviously, Messi finally getting his World Cup at the sunset of his incredible career, but the real highlight for me (and I am sure for many) was this:
Yeah I saw him do that and it further confirmed to me what an idiot he is. Watching him get a yellow card during the penalties for unsporting behaviour and then that just showed his lack of class in a tournament like this.
Amen, something one can say about sports in the larger sense.
I have to say I did enjoy the final as well. I have Mom visiting and we went out to the "Xmas village" set up in the "Jardin Anglais" lakeside park in Geneva, got her hot chocolate and me mulled wine with rum...yum.
Anyaway checked my phone early in the match, saw 2 - 0 Argentina and thought it would be a foregone conclusion before heading back and seeing France had equalized. We watched the extra time and penalties and really enjoyed the match.
Yeah.
I'm more of a club/league fan than a national team guy. I will say that the USMNT and WEDNESDAY let me down at about the same rate so they aren't too much different... lol.
Best final I've ever seen. Too bad it had to happen in Qatar. I didn't watch half as many matches as I would have normally because of them hosting.
At least the proper football can restart now that farce is over. Can Arsenal maintain their amazing form without Jesus? I think they've been quite lucky in a few games tbh. Obvs Man City are faves. Will Man U get their act together now the disruptive influence of Cronaldo has gone? Will Liverpool get back to the kind of form we've seen from them over the last few seasons? Their poor performance so far this season has been pretty uncharacteristic, and they clearly have the talent to do a lot better. Will Chelsea be left ruing sacking Tuchel? Replacing him with Graham Potter was madness, imo, but perhaps they have a masterplan. Spurs will be Spurs, we can be sure of that.
I think the interesting thing will see how the teams react to the WC when the football starts up again. Those teams with the bigger squads will have the advantage, as did the rule to allow 5 substitutes.
Some players have had a nice rest. Others have played a lot of matches.
Going to be weird.
We had such a crap first half to the season, I’ve kind of lost interest a bit. I expect we will finish just below halfway and sell Rice in the summer?
Some players have had a nice rest. Others have played a lot of matches.
Going to be weird.
We had such a crap first half to the season, I’ve kind of lost interest a bit. I expect we will finish just below halfway and sell Rice in the summer?