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Happy new year everyone!!
I dont understand why you argue?
Ex user garmin for 7 years(f3,f5,f5 plus,f6x,f7x,edge 1030,power pedals and hrm zones)
Now Ultra 2 , edge 1030 and hrm

Garmin is a big sport company and Apple the biggest tech company

Garmin fenix watch is a more dedicated sport watch with a plethora of metrics and battery(most metrics useless for big mass)
Apple watch is a smartwatch with all the sport activities and 80% of fenix metrics(also most of them are useless metrics)

after many years with garmin i prefer the ultra 2 as the biggest event to participate atm is olympic triathlon distance and i dont care about battery life.

If apple with the ultra 3 manage to get the battery to 4 days will take a lot of people from garmin.
 
Yes. important is the definition of the term professional. I will not agree that you need a garmin for running a marathon. And then go back and challenge yourself: How many percent of the people out there are running ultras or iron mens...
Garmin does have a huge problem. Because the Apple Watch can do all of those things and even much better what a garmin can do. If you need that huge amount of battery then fine. That seems to be the only customers left for garmin :D
And running with a crippled watch all day long, carrying my phone, having bad sensors is more annoying. Speaking as a runner with 70-100k a week ;)

Is 70-100k a week professional or not?
I'm in the 70-100K a week myself with 3.877 km in 2024 so almost 75 km a week in average and even the peak weeks in the marathon blocks above 100K has been completely fine with the AWU battery
 
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Even they don't seem to be using Garmin - with a lot of the pro's using COROS

Hmmm, also the best Trail Runner of all time, Kilian Jornet, was running with a Suunto watch. But he was so fast, he did not need a big battery. :D
 
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Hmmm, also the best Trail Runner of all time, Kilian Jornet, was running with a Suunto watch. But he was so fast, he did not need a big battery. :D

I'm pretty sure he's a brand ambassador for Coros so I doubt he was wearing a Suunto!

He used to be Suunto but that was a few years ago.
 
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I'm in the 70-100K a week myself with 3.877 km in 2024 so almost 75 km a week in average and even the peak weeks in the marathon blocks above 100K has been completely fine with the AWU battery
That's where I was at peak marathon training before Valencia. I've dropped that since to recover.
This is off topic.. My apologies, but do you generally keep about the same mileage and do a shorter marathon block ? Or do you do the standard build from low mileage to peak ?
 
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Happy new year everyone!!
I dont understand why you argue?
Ex user garmin for 7 years(f3,f5,f5 plus,f6x,f7x,edge 1030,power pedals and hrm zones)
Now Ultra 2 , edge 1030 and hrm

Garmin is a big sport company and Apple the biggest tech company

Garmin fenix watch is a more dedicated sport watch with a plethora of metrics and battery(most metrics useless for big mass)
Apple watch is a smartwatch with all the sport activities and 80% of fenix metrics(also most of them are useless metrics)

after many years with garmin i prefer the ultra 2 as the biggest event to participate atm is olympic triathlon distance and i dont care about battery life.

If apple with the ultra 3 manage to get the battery to 4 days will take a lot of people from garmin.
The arguing is because people think anything positive about a device they chose not to buy/use is an attack on them personally for choosing something different. Almost no one needs a smartwatch/sports watch/or even a mechanical watch with clocks being as ubiquitous as they are now. So if my wife, my daughter, my stepsons all want an AW, cool. If I want a Garmin, cool. If you have no use for a Garmin, no big deal to me. If I decide to switch back to an AW in a year or two, that isn’t proof Garmin sucks or Apple is better. People need to relax and just be satisfied with what they have.

A cheap Motorola Android phone is sufficient for probably 80% of smartphone users, but we look down on cheap devices because our fancy Apples and Samsungs are objectively better…even if they are overkill for most of us.
 
That's where I was at peak marathon training before Valencia. I've dropped that since to recover.
This is off topic.. My apologies, but do you generally keep about the same mileage and do a shorter marathon block ? Or do you do the standard build from low mileage to peak ?
I have been training for two marathons a year for the last couple of years, with a winter/spring block ending with a May race and September/October for the second block. I would say the rest-time after a marathon is usually where mileage goes down for a month and then slow starts again and this time already hitting 90K before end of December (May race)

My coach say the focus early is to build the base - so fast paces, but not as many as later but mileage and increasing the internal engine
 
I have been training for two marathons a year for the last couple of years, with a winter/spring block ending with a May race and September/October for the second block. I would say the rest-time after a marathon is usually where mileage goes down for a month and then slow starts again and this time already hitting 90K before end of December (May race)

My coach say the focus early is to build the base - so fast paces, but not as many as later but mileage and increasing the internal engine
Thanks for this.
Last marathon block, I started the block already doing 70km a week.. Then I did a 18 week Daniel's block. The marathon was Dec 1. Looking at my numbers and just how I felt, I think I peaked late September. VO2max went down and the half marathon paces during training were harder and harder to reach.. I think the mistake was to not include the ramping up to 70km a week as part of the block.. Ok, enough off topic. Thanks again for your insight.
 
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Thanks for this.
Last marathon block, I started the block already doing 70km a week.. Then I did a 18 week Daniel's block. The marathon was Dec 1. Looking at my numbers and just how I felt, I think I peaked late September. VO2max went down and the half marathon paces during training were harder and harder to reach.. I think the mistake was to not include the ramping up to 70km a week as part of the block.. Ok, enough off topic. Thanks again for your insight.
Well might be off topic but love discussing running 😁😁
 
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Another Fenix 8 user with not so good battery life even though he/she has switched off almost everything and is not even using GPS:

„With this huge battery drain the Apple Watch Ultra I had before was similar with more going on beside sports…“

Maybe holding it wrong, @Zelegorm? :D
 
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Another Fenix 8 user with not so good battery life even though he/she has switched off almost everything and is not even using GPS:

„With this huge battery drain the Apple Watch Ultra I had before was similar with more going on beside sports…“

Maybe holding it wrong, @Zelegorm? :D
Definitely holding it wrong. Like me 😂🤣
 
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Definitely holding it wrong. Like me 😂🤣

All of them, it seems.
Another happy customer:

I have the Fenix 8, and ever since installing 12.35, battery drain has been terrible. 30% or more / day - even when barely doing anything. Previously it was the 5-10% range / day.

Maybe Garmin should advise how to hold the watch correctly. ;)
 
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Another not 100% happy Fenix 8 user:

I'm on 12.35 and this is still happening - my watch restarted 4 times during the workout. I got to Garmin from Apple Watch Ultra and the difference in software quality is truly shocking.
 
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Seems there are unhappy AWU2 owners too!

apple watch ultra 2 constantly rebooting

After dealing with the new apple watch ultra 2 for almost a month. I have noticed that it kept on restarting itself and I had to constantly unlock it. Called apple care and was given an appt for the Genius bar at the store but they only gave me the option of returning the watch and rebuying a new one since it had not been 30 days of purchase. well left happy thinking that this was the fix but since that day (only been 4 days) the new one keeps doing the same thing.
 
Seems there are unhappy AWU2 owners too!

apple watch ultra 2 constantly rebooting

After dealing with the new apple watch ultra 2 for almost a month. I have noticed that it kept on restarting itself and I had to constantly unlock it. Called apple care and was given an appt for the Genius bar at the store but they only gave me the option of returning the watch and rebuying a new one since it had not been 30 days of purchase. well left happy thinking that this was the fix but since that day (only been 4 days) the new one keeps doing the same thing.

Haven't heard of this before to be honest - is this you or are you quoting someone else?
 
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Seems there are unhappy AWU2 owners too!

apple watch ultra 2 constantly rebooting

After dealing with the new apple watch ultra 2 for almost a month. I have noticed that it kept on restarting itself and I had to constantly unlock it. Called apple care and was given an appt for the Genius bar at the store but they only gave me the option of returning the watch and rebuying a new one since it had not been 30 days of purchase. well left happy thinking that this was the fix but since that day (only been 4 days) the new one keeps doing the same thing.
Incredible !!!
You have found an AW with an issue !!
 
I know, it's shocking!
Absolutely. Guess I sell my AWU2 and buy a Fenix 8.

Oh, also shocking:

I’m having the same problem. I have owned a lot of fenix’s over the years and know how to optimize battery. With very conservative settings I can’t even get a week of life, and that’s without gps activities. Spend a lot of money upgrading from a Fenix 7, which had way better battery life.


or this from today:

Same problem here since a few days. Nothing changed compared to previous months.

It's unacceptable that a 1.3K€ watch required to turn off all its features (for which all of us bought this watch) in order to try to solve the drain issue.

I really would stay with Garmin for its great sport features, but I'm seriously thinking to go back to Apple Watch Ultra, for which a lot of developers are improving its features and reports, and which recharge battery in flash times (i.e. during a shower).
 
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Absolutely. Guess I sell my AWU2 and buy a Fenix 8.

Oh, also shocking:

I’m having the same problem. I have owned a lot of fenix’s over the years and know how to optimize battery. With very conservative settings I can’t even get a week of life, and that’s without gps activities. Spend a lot of money upgrading from a Fenix 7, which had way better battery life.


or this from today:

Same problem here since a few days. Nothing changed compared to previous months.

It's unacceptable that a 1.3K€ watch required to turn off all its features (for which all of us bought this watch) in order to try to solve the drain issue.

I really would stay with Garmin for its great sport features, but I'm seriously thinking to go back to Apple Watch Ultra, for which a lot of developers are improving its features and reports, and which recharge battery in flash times (i.e. during a shower).

There's loads of people complaining of poor battery life on their Ultra 2 also but I suppose as you're not looking for that info it's not real!
 
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