if that is the case then Im glad - Im sure I saw a video of an early review and there were no tabs in safari in split view - maybe apple updated it
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if that is the case then Im glad - Im sure I saw a video of an early review and there were no tabs in safari in split view - maybe apple updated it
I'm happy you're happy.
The true challenge will be the test of time. Your level of extreme nirvana may indicate that your emotional high will outlast that of other users.
My brother is very happy with his, yet he's not riding on a high that's blissful and overshadowing all else in his life.
Good luck.
I suspect the issue is orientation. In portrait mode, the button for tabs is missing in split view but in landscape mode, tabs are present. Since landscape is where it's valuable it doesn't seem like an issue.
General comment: I think this is what I wanted the original iPad to be. It's the size of a normal piece of paper and you can write/draw on it. At the time, an iPP size device would have weighed 2+ pounds and been way too slow to use for writing/drawing. I'm not a big fan of iOS beyond the phone (I think the app store and lack of file system kills the software ecosystem), but this is definitely the "real" iPad to me.
I would rather have an Intel device that dual boots OS X and Windows, with iOS running as tablet mode for OS X, but Apple knows this device would kill their app store (legacy software and iOS side loading).
I'm not the guy you were replying to but... There are people thinking about this already, the focus would mostly be math and science applications.
The most basic version is that handwriting recognition is getting better. I don't see long-form writing digitally ever becoming a better experience than typing, but if you combine this functionality with some other, broader recognition systems there are potentially huge applications.
Recognizing equations and basic geometric diagrams could be extremely useful. I could see a system that interprets hand-drawn chemical equations and converts them into Chemdraw-style models being a game changer for synthetic chemists. Circuit diagrams, architecture, I'm sure there are other examples that wouldn't be too unrealistic.
This kind of input requires a decent amount of CPU power and skilled programmers, I have no idea how far we can realistically take it. It definitely wasn't possible on the older generation mobile devices, which are too slow to run a decent paint program brush engine.
I would rather have an Intel device that dual boots OS X and Windows, with iOS running as tablet mode for OS X, but Apple knows this device would kill their app store (legacy software and iOS side loading).
I'm not the guy you were replying to but... There are people thinking about this already, the focus would mostly be math and science applications.
The most basic version is that handwriting recognition is getting better. I don't see long-form writing digitally ever becoming a better experience than typing, but if you combine this functionality with some other, broader recognition systems there are potentially huge applications.
Recognizing equations and basic geometric diagrams could be extremely useful. I could see a system that interprets hand-drawn chemical equations and converts them into Chemdraw-style models being a game changer for synthetic chemists. Circuit diagrams, architecture, I'm sure there are other examples that wouldn't be too unrealistic.
This kind of input requires a decent amount of CPU power and skilled programmers, I have no idea how far we can realistically take it. It definitely wasn't possible on the older generation mobile devices, which are too slow to run a decent paint program brush engine.
Sure...as an Engineer by trade they will be science centric....
Symbolic math....draw equations, solve, graph, explore them, ...
A generic bread board...add circuit elements, sources, read points, curve trace IV, frequency response, ...
Kinematics, 4-bar coupler curves, linkages, gear trains, ....
A whole new way to envision spreadsheets, play with numbers, ...touch, pencil, voice could all be used together...maybe more natural than shift and arrow keys followed by menus and mouse clicks.
stick figure animations as a way to communicate, flip cards, ...
The iPad Pro today is none of these things but it's different. Using it makes me think about the interface more than I have in a long time. Today I needed to print something to PDF and then mail it. I figured out how to do it but the process was convoluted. Maybe that is why it feels different.
the vid I saw was in landscape, and the mini 4 still has this issue of no tabs in split view - Im thinking apple maybe updated it on the iPad pro
While I agree with you, I think the reality is that it will take quite a while for the dev community to "catch on" to the IPP and by the time they actually do, it will be the first generation IPP and already replaced by a new IPP+ that addresses all the weaknesses and failings of the first gen device.
For most people who already have a laptop, or even an iPad with a keyboard, the IPP right now just represents more of the same. A working demonstrator model for a glimpse into what the future will eventually bring. But make no mistake...for now, its just a demo.
I'm loving my iPad Pro, especially now that I have the keyboard and pencil! I haven't felt this excited about an iPad since the 1st gen iPad. Very pleased!
The iPad Pro is a great piece of hardware, no doubt, unfortunately I can't say the same thing about iOS. It really is time, Apple needs to completely overhaul the OS. After just using iOS with the iPad Pro for an hour, I was extremely frustrated and disappointed. First, you’re right, the keyboard is useless, my Logi was a complete waste of money but not for the reasons your thinking. No, it’s because there is no mouse support, I absolutely hated that I constantly had to reach up to navigate the UI, the experience improved ten fold the second I got rid of the Logi because now my hands were on the display, making typing and navigating just so much better. Here are a few things that Apple needs to fix in iOS;
The ability to select your own default apps, I don’t use any of Apple’s included apps, it’s not that their bad, not great but not bad, it’s that I use multiple OS’s so I only use apps that are cross platform.
The ability to run any app in the background, the iPad Pro has 4GB of RAM, there is no reason why they couldn’t add this. When you traveling and want better battery, just do what Android did and add a toggle that switches this off, add a user definable allowed list of how many apps can run in the background, my Nexus 9 and Shield tablet are set to 5.
a Document Management System that every app access to open and save it’s files. I almost screamed while typing in my iCloud credentials for every single app I had installed, over and over and over again. This DMS would solve this, plus all our files would be located in a central location and not thrown throughout system like it is now. Apps should never handle their own files.
Sharing, though better than iOS 8, which isn’t saying much, it should be integrated into iOS and not added on. Share requires app developers to create share profiles, this is frankly ridiculous as not every app has the same Share capabilities. Some apps can share to iCloud and DropBox, others to Box and iCloud and so on. By integrating Share into the system in which the Share To lists are created dynamically by listing ALL compatible apps dynamically within every app, we will no longer have this inconsistent mess we have now.
Mulit-User, this of course will never happen because apps manage their own files and I doubt Apple want’s each user installing the same apps again, as this is really the only way you can manage the users files. The only way this is going to happen is by implementing a Document Management System in which files are stored outside of the apps.
External displays, this is just a complete mess. When I plug in my monitor I want to see the desktop at native resolution and aspect ratio. I also want the desktop to be extended and not just mirrored. There should also be a way to modify the DPI on the external monitor so everything isn’t so huge. I use this utility called Second Display on my Android tablets, it’s fantatic. The second you plug in in the monitor, the desktop is extended, DPI is switched over to one that mimics a proper desktop DPI, resolution and aspect ratio is native and looks great. Plus there are profiles for each monitor, TV or Beamer. My Nexus 9 even supports USB monitors, something I would like to see iOS do as my little LEnovo portable 15” monitor is a big help when programming.
I don’t care what Apple does but I want a new UI, I’m tired of the look of iOS, it’s dated, just do something with it Apple.
There’s a lot more, like customizable quicksettings, Miracast support as all of my TV’s have it built in and I don't want to buy a Apple TV just so I can display my desktop wirelessly but I’ll end it here.
iOS is an ok tablet OS for media consumption and gaming but once you start using it for productivity it quickly becomes a chore and is frankly just missing too many features for me anyway. I don’t think I’ll be keeping the iPad Pro as I just bought a Surface Pro 4, I to am a harcore OSX user but I have to say, I absolutely dig the Surface Pro 4, just a fantastic piece of computer, really. I hesitated buying the Surface Pro 3 because of these forums and how much everyone kept saying how crappy they are but during Black-Friday, I saw the SP4 i7, 16GB, 256GB model for 1300 dollars and I knew it was a sign. I love it, installed Chrome along with Arc, so I have about 50 Android apps now, they all run instantly, like when you click on FlipBoard, it opens in under a second, it’s crazy. So those who are saying that there just isn’t any tablet apps on it, well I have every single apps that I have on my iPad, on the Surface. I have all of my Cloud apps (which is what I use mostly nowadays, a real browser, PhotoShop, Blender, FL Studio, NetBeans, Oracle, VirtualBox with Linux, Solaris, OSX, Android, Kodi, etc. Photoshop and Premiere are the real treats though, I love using my fingers and the stylus to edit videos and photos on the couch, it’s actually usable. Since I have 16GB of RAM, I can give OSX 8GB and it runs extremely well, in fact so well that what when it’s in full screen, it honestly feels like I’m using a Mac, with touch screen, which even though many here say it sucks, it doesn’t it’s quite useable, I even have stylus support for ArtRage, so cool. It’s just a better productivity tablet all the way around, I don’t even use the keyboard much because the virtual is just fine, I’m typing about 40 WPM. So those here who keep saying that the Surface keyboard is a must, it isn't, in fact, don't buy it, instead grab a MS Wedge keyboard and mouse for while your at the desk and while your mobile, just use the virtual keyboard.
The ability to select your own default apps, I don’t use any of Apple’s included apps, it’s not that their bad, not great but not bad, it’s that I use multiple OS’s so I only use apps that are cross platform.
The ability to run any app in the background, the iPad Pro has 4GB of RAM, there is no reason why they couldn’t add this. When you traveling and want better battery, just do what Android did and add a toggle that switches this off, add a user definable allowed list of how many apps can run in the background, my Nexus 9 and Shield tablet are set to 5.
a Document Management System that every app access to open and save it’s files. I almost screamed while typing in my iCloud credentials for every single app I had installed, over and over and over again. This DMS would solve this, plus all our files would be located in a central location and not thrown throughout system like it is now. Apps should never handle their own files.
Sharing, though better than iOS 8, which isn’t saying much, it should be integrated into iOS and not added on. Share requires app developers to create share profiles, this is frankly ridiculous as not every app has the same Share capabilities. Some apps can share to iCloud and DropBox, others to Box and iCloud and so on. By integrating Share into the system in which the Share To lists are created dynamically by listing ALL compatible apps dynamically within every app, we will no longer have this inconsistent mess we have now.
Mulit-User, this of course will never happen because apps manage their own files and I doubt Apple want’s each user installing the same apps again, as this is really the only way you can manage the users files. The only way this is going to happen is by implementing a Document Management System in which files are stored outside of the apps.
External displays, this is just a complete mess. When I plug in my monitor I want to see the desktop at native resolution and aspect ratio. I also want the desktop to be extended and not just mirrored. There should also be a way to modify the DPI on the external monitor so everything isn’t so huge. I use this utility called Second Display on my Android tablets, it’s fantatic. The second you plug in in the monitor, the desktop is extended, DPI is switched over to one that mimics a proper desktop DPI, resolution and aspect ratio is native and looks great. Plus there are profiles for each monitor, TV or Beamer. My Nexus 9 even supports USB monitors, something I would like to see iOS do as my little LEnovo portable 15” monitor is a big help when programming.
I don’t care what Apple does but I want a new UI, I’m tired of the look of iOS, it’s dated, just do something with it Apple.
There’s a lot more, like customizable quicksettings, Miracast support as all of my TV’s have it built in and I don't want to buy a Apple TV just so I can display my desktop wirelessly but I’ll end it here.
iOS is an ok tablet OS for media consumption and gaming but once you start using it for productivity it quickly becomes a chore and is frankly just missing too many features for me anyway. I don’t think I’ll be keeping the iPad Pro as I just bought a Surface Pro 4, I to am a harcore OSX user but I have to say, I absolutely dig the Surface Pro 4, just a fantastic piece of computer, really. I hesitated buying the Surface Pro 3 because of these forums and how much everyone kept saying how crappy they are but during Black-Friday, I saw the SP4 i7, 16GB, 256GB model for 1300 dollars and I knew it was a sign. I love it, installed Chrome along with Arc, so I have about 50 Android apps now, they all run instantly, like when you click on FlipBoard, it opens in under a second, it’s crazy. So those who are saying that there just isn’t any tablet apps on it, well I have every single apps that I have on my iPad, on the Surface. I have all of my Cloud apps (which is what I use mostly nowadays, a real browser, PhotoShop, Blender, FL Studio, NetBeans, Oracle, VirtualBox with Linux, Solaris, OSX, Android, Kodi, etc. Photoshop and Premiere are the real treats though, I love using my fingers and the stylus to edit videos and photos on the couch, it’s actually usable. Since I have 16GB of RAM, I can give OSX 8GB and it runs extremely well, in fact so well that what when it’s in full screen, it honestly feels like I’m using a Mac, with touch screen, which even though many here say it sucks, it doesn’t it’s quite useable, I even have stylus support for ArtRage, so cool. It’s just a better productivity tablet all the way around, I don’t even use the keyboard much because the virtual is just fine, I’m typing about 40 WPM. So those here who keep saying that the Surface keyboard is a must, it isn't, in fact, don't buy it, instead grab a MS Wedge keyboard and mouse for while your at the desk and while your mobile, just use the virtual keyboard.
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Really cool. I disagree. Using an external keyboard is simple and intuitive. In fact it is great browsing. I don't even need to touch the screen. If I want to search for something new I use command tab and get a new tab and type what I'm looking for. If I want to switch apps command tab.
Glad you enjoy the surface pro 4 and all that setting up and managing things. I enjoy just grabbing the iPad pro and having it be on ready to go. No setup. No emulation, no managing 16gb of ram. No moving files around. No plugging in external displays. No worrying about syncing my other twenty devices on seperate Operating systems. Simplicity. I love it.
Glad you enjoy the surface pro 4 and all that setting up and managing things. I enjoy just grabbing the iPad pro and having it be on ready to go. No setup. No emulation, no managing 16gb of ram. No moving files around. No plugging in external displays. No worrying about syncing my other twenty devices on seperate Operating systems. Simplicity. I love it.
That's great that you enjoy your iPad, my point was not to discourage others from enjoying theirs or even stop someone from buying one. It's just that anything with Pro behind it has certain expectations without so many compromises. The iPad Pro is still just an iPad, which is very useful in itself but Apple is trying to give the impression that the iPad Pro is much more than just an iPad. Going so far as comparing it to the Surface Pro which is utterly ridiculous in my book. One just doesn't buy the other because they're so similar.
My issue isn't really with the iPad Pro per say but with iOS. It just isn't a Pro operating system, even in the most basic definition. I like the new app-switching and dual app view but they are also extremely limited. Like everything else in iOS, the app developers has to do all of the work, the OS itself actually has very little functionality built in, all of these new features in iOS are actually not part of the system itself but are in themselves just apps. So if a developer wants their app to be able to be used in split screen, they have to program it, if they want their app to be able to share info with other apps, the developer has to program it, if they want their apps to be viewed on an external monitor, the developer has to program it, if they want iCloud support, well you get the picture. All of this should be done by the OS itself, why, because by allowing the app developer to manage all of these what should be core features, the entire system becomes inconsistent. Some apps support this and that, other's those and these, files for instance, every app has a completely different way they manage their files, it just isn't a constant experience. I had to log into iCloud over 60 times, why for the love of everything good in life did I have to do this. I understand that iOS uses this silly walled garden concept that just adds way too much complexity because API's have to be built to connect everything together but why, why couldn't Apple from the beginning made a Document Management System in which every app, uniformly has to use. This way every single cloud service that you have could be integrated into this DMS, negating the need for the user to login over and over and over again. It would also bring support for every cloud service to each app instead of just 2, which mostly consists of just iCloud and DropBox. I'm not asking to see the entire file-system, just my documents, photos, videos and music, that's it. Also by having all of your files in a single location, managing files would be just so much easier, as well as searching. Imagine being able to search through not only your local files but also files located in every cloud storage and NAS you have mounted from a single search pane or Siri. Yes, there are third party apps that do some of this but I want it integrated into the system, so when I open up a file from within any app, I always get the same DMS, that already has all of my services installed and at the ready, as well as built in Zip support.
Out of the box, iOS feels naked, the users has to install app after app to add even the most basic of features. Why I can’t select multiple files, than zip them, while within an email client is beyond me, I was doing this in 2004 with my Nokia 9500. I’m sure that there is also a third-party app for this as well but again, why do I, the user have to add in functionality that should and rightfully so be part of the system.
One of the most useful things about an OS that is multithreaded is that you can run apps in the background. in iOS however this is greatly limited as only a few apps are actually allowed to do this. I get that Apple wanted to increase their margins by only adding a single gigabyte of RAM into their iOS devices for the last 7 years but now that these devices have 2GB to 4GB in them, there is no reason why I can’t run any app that I want to in the background, especially the iPad Pro as it’s a supposed Pro device. I need this as I use a terminal quite frequently, because as a programmer who is responsible for his own applications I constantly monitor their output and error messages, even fix problems and do compiles. However, I had to buy a Nexus 9 and Blackberry Passport because my iPads or iPhone 6 wasn’t able to run a terminal in the background without the system terminating its remote connections after only three minutes of running in the background. Some say, well because of battery life, well my Passport lasts a half a day longer than my iPhone 6 with similar usage. Even if it didn’t, Apple could have easily just added a small blurb in the settings panel that allows the user to turn this feature on or off, even allowed the user to choose how many apps can be ran in the background like Android does, my Nexus 9 is set to 5. Yes, yes, I’m sure no one wants this feature as every time I bring it up I’m always bombarded by comments stating that no one actually needs to be able to run every app in the background as Apple knows better, plus they already allow some of their apps to do so. Yea, great but I had to buy three iPads just so I could run three music apps at once for live music and even now that I have an iPad Pro, none of my music apps support dual app view and I’m doubtful they ever will as even GarageBand isn’t able to do this.
There is always the fine print within every new iOS feature. Look at this great new feature, however the app developer for your favorite apps has to add support for it. Like I said in my other comment, Apple really needs to completely overhaul iOS and integrate all of these features into iOS, instead of creating another app that is basically masquerading as a system feature. App sharing should be at the core of the OS, app developers shouldn't have to create share profiles in order for their apps to communicate with other apps, the OS should do all of this dynamically by listing every compatible app when the user clicks on Share, instead of using manual, predefined allowed to share lists. I have spent way too much time configuring Share in iOS when it should have already been done for me.
Why does Apple still insist that I use their apps as my defaults, why can’t I select my own default apps so when I click on a hyperlink from within an email, Safari doesn’t start up but the browser of my choosing. Same with the email client and messaging. The European Community went after Microsoft for bundling Internet Explorer into Windows XP, even though the user was still able to select their own default browser. What Apple is doing is extremely anticompetitive and should be dealt with, however it won’t be because Apple is above everyone else it seems. They're still hiring children at Foxconn but it’s okay as they now call it an internship program and even get to pay them less, win for everybody, the hippie good doers feel like they accomplished something and Apple get’s even cheaper labor where before they had to pay the children a full wage, yaaay. I only mentioned that to try and explain to you guys that Apple isn’t all kitty cats and bunnies, they're a huge company, who cares as little about you as a Shark does with it’s next meal. Their in it to make money, lot’s and lot's of money and will do so by doing the absolute minimum to save costs. As such Apple will milk iOS in its current form until they're forced to change it. So it’s our fault that iOS just isn’t up to snuff because we keep buying these devices, compromises and all, in which there are many.
I really wanted to like the iPad Pro but unlike my iPad Airs which I bought for a single purpose which was for music creation, I expected more from it. As a grand is a lot of money to pay for so many inconsistencies, limitations and just overall one big compromise. I’m not going to force something to do what I need done just because it has an Apple symbol on it, it's also okay to be critical of Apple, especially when they're really not giving us what we need to be productive with their devices. Thankfully, there are other devices on the market that will do what I need, the Surface Pro 4 being one of them and soon the new Pixel C which I will buy to replace my Nexus 9 with. I know Android is a sore subject around here but it really is the better choice for an IT professional like myself. I will still keep using my iPad Airs for musical creation as their really great at stuff like that, as well as photos, light video editing and art apps, however for productivity, it really just isn’t up to the task, at least no where near the level that I need or want.
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Well it is interesting. You make valid points. I think the simplest awnser you have already figured out the iPad pro is not going to work for your purposes.
For me I had already decided I was tired of traditional computing and was using the air 2. The pro has improved my experience. I only use my devices for basic tasks and school work though. I can't see my needs changing when I start work either. I'll be teaching, the iPad pro should cover all those bases. One thing that may change is at home if I need to run a few music programs that are Windows or OS X I may just get a simple Mac mini for that to allow my students access to those programs.
For me I had already decided I was tired of traditional computing and was using the air 2. The pro has improved my experience. I only use my devices for basic tasks and school work though. I can't see my needs changing when I start work either. I'll be teaching, the iPad pro should cover all those bases. One thing that may change is at home if I need to run a few music programs that are Windows or OS X I may just get a simple Mac mini for that to allow my students access to those programs.
I agree 100% with the OP. I've had my iPad Pro for a few days and it is absolutely one of the most impressive device by Apple I've ever used, and no way I will put a keyboard on it!. It was a really nice addition to my workflow which also includes my rMBP 15 inch. People who are criticizing the iPad Pro should definitely give it a go and see for themselves how useful and imersice device it is!
The IPP isn't just for artists. Anyone in a profession that requires reading documents (journal articles in my case, legal filings in someone else's, etc.) will likely find compelling the ability to read, highlight, and annotate PDFs with the ease that the Pencil permits. And to store the annotated documents digitally instead of filling file cabinets and boxes with annotated hard copy. I've tried to highlight/annotate journal articles many times before both on iPads using iAnnotate PDF when it first came out and on the original Surface Pro, but the poor quality of previous iPad styluses and the dreadful user experience with Windows 8.1 left me going back to hardcopy, pen, and highlighter.
When I retired a few years ago, I literally had an entire room full of annotated journal articles in boxes and file cabinets--that I ended up pitching when I moved out of state and to a much smaller place. It certainly would have been nice to still have access to those files, but it wasn't worth paying a mover to haul them or a storage room to store them. Had I been able to store them as PDFs annotated on my IPP using the Apple Pencil, I'd still have them.
And, from the standpoint of play, I'm really enjoying scanning or screen dumping coloring books, importing the images into Procreate and coloring using the Pencil. No fuss, no muss, no storage of paper.
Save a tree. Buy an IPP and GO DIGITAL. (Stated only slightly facetiously!)
When I retired a few years ago, I literally had an entire room full of annotated journal articles in boxes and file cabinets--that I ended up pitching when I moved out of state and to a much smaller place. It certainly would have been nice to still have access to those files, but it wasn't worth paying a mover to haul them or a storage room to store them. Had I been able to store them as PDFs annotated on my IPP using the Apple Pencil, I'd still have them.
And, from the standpoint of play, I'm really enjoying scanning or screen dumping coloring books, importing the images into Procreate and coloring using the Pencil. No fuss, no muss, no storage of paper.
Save a tree. Buy an IPP and GO DIGITAL.
(Stated only slightly facetiously!)After using my IPP for the last week, I agree: it's really freaking awesome. This is what the iPad should have been, except it was technically impossible.
Sure I still use my other machines, but I drag my IPP around all the time. For me, the future is now.
Sure I still use my other machines, but I drag my IPP around all the time. For me, the future is now.
Next generation iPad Pro 2 will be very much BETTER next year with iOS 10!
Yes, and the generation after that will be even better. That's not news. The question is whether the current model does what you want it to do or not. If it does, then it's worth getting now. If a newer one subsequently comes out and the improvements are enough for you to want to upgrade, then find a buyer for your original IPP and upgrade.
I have to agree with the op. This thing is sick. Had original then an Air (1). Playing Pandora right now in the background and through the 4 speakers much better than previous. I wouldn't bother listening on the previous speakers. This is nice, really nice.
The pads, since I got the first, became my go to device for surfing, email, YouTube, reading, general consumption, etc. If I want to do real work then I want to go to my office, fire up the Mac and dual monitors with full keyboard and mouse. The pads have been for non-work, at least until now.
UPS held it hostage for two days failing to attempt delivery due to local understaffing issues. Finally got it today. As soon as I got it I wouldn't open it, instead drove to the store to compare MB, MBA's, and make a decision due to the price. MBA isn't much more and the reviews haven't been stellar which I've been watching during the shipping fiasco. Been telling myself "MBA barely more $, might be finally time to get a MB". After some reviews maybe I made a mistake. After 10 minutes of playing with a new MB, and both MBA's, I finally walked over to the IPP. Wow. If you own a previous pad the pro is like going from a nice CRT to your first 1080p flatscreen. Blown away.
In all honesty I've wanted a larger IPad for years. When I first read rumors of a pro version, which would be larger, a year or so ago, I knew I'd upgrade if true. The pad has always been a more intimate feeling device than traditional desk/laps, now even more so. Forum looks so much better, photos are stunning. I have never had a problem with iOS, in fact I like the simplicity.
The reviews were dead wrong afaiac. Go play with one. All that keyboard and pen stuff, have no intention of purchasing either. This is just what the iPad should have been from the get go. Yes, definitely the best and greatest Apple device so far, to me. This thing is a new standard for me. Love it. Feels as thin and sleek as my iPhone 6 (and I want a new one, as thin, but the size of a 4 or 5). Once the initial grumblings of laptop replacement and keyboard shenanigans subsides, these are going to sell like hot cakes. I had to play with one to understand. Now if Apple will just make a dang smart case for it I'll be all set.
The pads, since I got the first, became my go to device for surfing, email, YouTube, reading, general consumption, etc. If I want to do real work then I want to go to my office, fire up the Mac and dual monitors with full keyboard and mouse. The pads have been for non-work, at least until now.
UPS held it hostage for two days failing to attempt delivery due to local understaffing issues. Finally got it today. As soon as I got it I wouldn't open it, instead drove to the store to compare MB, MBA's, and make a decision due to the price. MBA isn't much more and the reviews haven't been stellar which I've been watching during the shipping fiasco. Been telling myself "MBA barely more $, might be finally time to get a MB". After some reviews maybe I made a mistake. After 10 minutes of playing with a new MB, and both MBA's, I finally walked over to the IPP. Wow. If you own a previous pad the pro is like going from a nice CRT to your first 1080p flatscreen. Blown away.
In all honesty I've wanted a larger IPad for years. When I first read rumors of a pro version, which would be larger, a year or so ago, I knew I'd upgrade if true. The pad has always been a more intimate feeling device than traditional desk/laps, now even more so. Forum looks so much better, photos are stunning. I have never had a problem with iOS, in fact I like the simplicity.
The reviews were dead wrong afaiac. Go play with one. All that keyboard and pen stuff, have no intention of purchasing either. This is just what the iPad should have been from the get go. Yes, definitely the best and greatest Apple device so far, to me. This thing is a new standard for me. Love it. Feels as thin and sleek as my iPhone 6 (and I want a new one, as thin, but the size of a 4 or 5). Once the initial grumblings of laptop replacement and keyboard shenanigans subsides, these are going to sell like hot cakes. I had to play with one to understand. Now if Apple will just make a dang smart case for it I'll be all set.
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Glad it's working well for so many people.If it's affordable then I say go for it if the size isn't an issue
Good to see people really liking it. I suspected it would find a very devoted core audience considering the pencil and size. Personally though, it doesn't hit my sweet spot. With the large bezels at the moment it just feels too big to carry around on a train or to take on international trips, yet isn't functional or efficient enough to come anywhere near close to replacing most of what I need to do on a computer.
To me the IPP feels like it is really well suited to certain industries and not so much for others like Educational content creation. As a educational consumption device it is spectacular though. Just not overly great for educational content creation.
To me the IPP feels like it is really well suited to certain industries and not so much for others like Educational content creation. As a educational consumption device it is spectacular though. Just not overly great for educational content creation.
i would agree. While I'd prefer the iPad Pro, the device still has (factually by the way, not just opinions) many limitations that still warrant an actual laptop, even if it's the rMB.
Not having a fully capable OS with apps that aren't sandboxed and limits on what you can denote as default apps is really killing the iOS experience for folks like me that do a little more with their devices
And as for the keyboard, I agree with the poster that said it's naive to religiously consider it some kind of non-issue. If you haven't used it, then you can't really make a sound judgement.
With that, I have used the Apple keyboard, and have used it at a "laptop" angle and found it indispensable. When the few Apps I rely on come to the iPad, the keyboard will be bought with the iPad Pro. Until then, it's really just a big iPad, and all three of my iPads are still sitting on the table, in a pile, right next to my heavily used Retina Macbook.
It would be nice, but I would rather have a computer interface that didn't discriminate against people that don't have those physical abilities. It's nice to dream about a world where computers do this and that and use mental and physical interfaces but that just goes to show that the tech industry still has a lot of growing to do when it comes to providing access to diverse groups of people.
We don't all think the same, don't all move our bodies the same, and aren't born exactly the same. After the tech industry fixes it's problems with race, I'd love to see them work harder on enabling tech usage for those with diverse abilities.
An iPad has replaced a laptop for me for quite a while. We have a rMB but I don't use it. Right now I am torn between an iPP and waiting for the iPad Air 3. I think that the screen on the iPP is going to win me over soon though.
Same for me as well. I've seen so many criticisms toward the iPad... Saying it can't do this & it can't do that.
But I tend to think if a person is skeptical of using iPad to replace their laptop, if they dare to implement it into their workflow & use it extensively that they could have a different outlook.
I just like the versatility it provides... Being able to pick it up on the go.. And use it instantly, I have the cellular version & that makes it even better.