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iPad Pro The best product Apple has ever made.

Macbooks are not allways perfect. why ? Because the charger for macbooks is the thing to worry about, many replace them after few months, they get faulty :/ Apple Tv is the most relaible apple product at the momment imo :)
 
thinayr said:
"Holy $#!% - this is incredible!"

These words have come out of my mouth more times today than they have since I first used an iPhone. I am ASTOUNDED at how good this device is and wanted to tell you why.

I am a creative professional who has used Apple products for 30 years. So yes, I'm incredibly biased. Even if, say, the Microsoft Surface were empirically a better product, I would still never buy one. I love Apple, and the iPad Pro is the culmination of all the reasons why.

First and foremost, I feel like Marty McFly just showed up in a flying DeLorean and handed me a device out of its time. In one day, hours really, my entire view of "computers" is shifted into a place I always knew it would go. The iPad Pro is the most immersive, intimate, exciting computer I have ever used. It's just feels right, and I am excited to see where it's going to take me.

I think one of the biggest reasons why I've been so enamored is because I am NOT using a physical keyboard. I have the iPad attached to a regular Smart Cover at its flattened ~30° angle, and I'm using the device the way it wants to be used... By touching it. I simply cannot imagine interacting with this device propped up at a laptop-like angle. It isn't a laptop replacement... It's better. Everything is designed and laid out for a flowing series of on-screen interactions, which after getting used to become second nature and feel quicker and more direct than anything I'd do with a keyboard and mouse.

Of course the biggie is typing, which I am doing right now using the software keyboard, and after only one day I feel like I am just as fast on the software keyboard as I am on my laptop. And rather than cursing the shortfalls of a physical slab of buttons trying to interact with a touch based computer, I'm forced to learn all the needed interface tools and shortcuts that make this device so cool, (my favorite is the two finger pseudo-trackpad to move the cursor anywhere it needs to go... And two finger tap to select the current word, paragraph etc... Science f'ng fiction, baby!)

I had a realization a few weeks ago while watching my 4 year old son deftly navigate our various iOS devices (the only personal computers he's ever spent any real time with) - the coming generation is never going to need the same kind of input devices we've grown up using... Physical mice, keyboards... They aren't needed with a touched based device like this... one that gives you enough room for the screen to be both input and canvas. Any attempt to attach a clumsy physical keyboard to a device like this is a crutch... The magic of this devices is using it like freaking minority report.

Also, the multi tasking in iOS 9 is spot-on, and while I did have moments where I thought about how many windows and things I could have open and running in my view on OS X, when I actually jumped back to my Mac while setting up the pro, I was shocked at the clutter of a half dozen Windows all lying on top of each other and a thousand other notifications, menus and icons crammed absolutely everywhere. There are plenty of multitasking improvements the fledgling iPrOS could benefit from, but the potential to move to iOS as a creative workspace brings with it the promise to start fresh in sparkling clean, distraction free simplicity.

Also, the sound is phenomenal. Because using the iPad in the hands on why I described brings you face to face with the device, the sound utterly floods your awareness... I cannot wait to start creating art on this thing when my pencil arrives in god-knows-how-many-weeks...

The final frontier is of course the apps, but just as the original iPhone and iPad saw a steady process of building the ecosystem one app at a time, we at least have a great foundation to build on with the Pro. I have no doubt that I will be straddling this device and my old MacBook Pro as I currently cannot do without the big app suites I've grown to rely on. It will take time for developers to catch up with our dreams for a device like this, but that's exactly what makes these technologies so exciting.

Be excited people... This is the continuation of something remarkable.
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Just wondering how you use it, with only the back cover at a 30 degree angle? (Also, how did you get the "o" on top of the 30?) Do you prop your knees up?
 
dray67 said:
Can't say I've ever had an issue with a Mac charger tbh, on my 4th Mac laptop, still the MacBook Pro for me.
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You could be one of the lucky ones hehe :) But many have that issue in general, which make me stand back for getting a Mac
 
thinayr said:
Of course the biggie is typing, which I am doing right now using the software keyboard, and after only one day I feel like I am just as fast on the software keyboard as I am on my laptop.
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Learn 10 Finger typing on a hardware keyboard.

that make this device so cool, (my favorite is the two finger pseudo-trackpad to move the cursor anywhere it needs to go... And two finger tap to select the current word, paragraph etc... Science f'ng fiction, baby!)
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You can only use this mode in an editor box, not on any Internet page. Then you have only this f* text selecting. On a 13" device!

Also, the multi tasking in iOS 9 is spot-on
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Yes, Multitasking/Split View is bad: Safari doesn't send to the server that's it's only half size. It doesn't render correctly. Everything is only smaller. Especially bad on an iPad mini 4. Then finding an App to use in Split View takes miles to scroll...
 
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ZombiePete said:
I was taking notes in a meeting yesterday with my iPP and Pencil.
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For taking notes in a meeting, an iPad mini with Pencil support would be more than enough.

ZombiePete said:
OneNote. I found it to be the best of the note taking apps for me; my handwriting looked more natural on it and my notes were searchable as long as I was syncing my notebook with OneDrive.
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OCR (text recognition) will be done on Microsoft server. Hope you don't work at Apple or Google. Sending notes to a non-private cloud is forbidden in most companies.
 
Im still little surprised People say MACs is the best apple product right now. its the most unrelaible in general. OSX is beautiful designed and run fast. but alot fails under software updates :/ and has alot faults. even with El capitan !
 
Atomic Walrus said:
Recognizing equations and basic geometric diagrams could be extremely useful. I could see a system that interprets hand-drawn chemical equations and converts them into Chemdraw-style models being a game changer for synthetic chemists. Circuit diagrams, architecture, I'm sure there are other examples that wouldn't be too unrealistic.
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Its really easier and more reliable to use equation formatting software to make a equations that need to be print quality. By the time you start cut and pasting--it goes really fast. Same for chem representations.
 
How is it using excel, as the app is not same as desktop? I mean entering columns of data and creating simple formulas only, the soft keyboard doesn't work for me on my mini and I have to use BT external. Are IPP users happy with office apps on it or are they too limited? Connecting to external data also looks to be tricky, like SQL, so I can see why some don't think it is ready yet for them. Though ink with office is coming in January according to MS and this might persuade me.
 
Newtons Apple said:
Apple's all time best product is always going to be the phone.

I like my IPP but maybe not as much as the OP.
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The phone is there best "selling" product.

The new retina MacBook as well as the first generation iPhone & MacBook Air comes to mind as Apple's best products, but as far as the iPP awesome touch panel display with support for the best stylus out here... Great sounding speakers.

I have to say I enjoy it more than any other Apple products... Just think how far we have came from to the introduction of the iPhone in '07 then the iPad in '10. It's just kind of special to look back at what products came from Apple to the point it is today.
 
Ludatyk said:
The phone is there best "selling" product.

The new retina MacBook as well as the first generation iPhone & MacBook Air comes to mind as Apple's best products, but as far as the iPP awesome touch panel display with support for the best stylus out here... Great sounding speakers.

I have to say I enjoy it more than any other Apple products... Just think how far we have came from to the introduction of the iPhone in '07 then the iPad in '10. It's just kind of special to look back at what products came from Apple to the point it is today.
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08 MacBook Air was cool and totally ahead of its time (yet limited)... My first Mac laptop purchase was one on launch...
 
Had a muck around in the Apple shop, I was somewhat surprised to try the pencil in a drawing app and see how laggy it was, screen appeared unevenly lit as well. I'm really surprised at how craptastic it is. Compared to drawing on a early 2013 rMPB with a wacom tablet there is no comparison.
 
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emembee said:
How is it using excel, as the app is not same as desktop? I mean entering columns of data and creating simple formulas only, the soft keyboard doesn't work for me on my mini and I have to use BT external. Are IPP users happy with office apps on it or are they too limited? Connecting to external data also looks to be tricky, like SQL, so I can see why some don't think it is ready yet for them. Though ink with office is coming in January according to MS and this might persuade me.
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I don't use a lot of Excel, but for, like you said, entering columns of data and creating simple formulas, it feels pretty close to doing the same on a desktop. I do have the Smart Keyboard, though. I have a friend doing their PhD thesis in Word, as well; they occasionally send me things to look at/edit, and I can do this no problem on the IPP Word.

inscrewtable said:
Had a muck around in the Apple shop, I was somewhat surprised to try the pencil in a drawing app and see how laggy it was, screen appeared unevenly lit as well. I'm really surprised at how craptastic it is. Compared to drawing on a early 2013 rMPB with a wacom tablet there is no comparison.
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I have literally not heard this from anyone, and to my eye, lag with the Pencil is imperceptible.
 
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sledgehammer89 said:
iPP is to big. Just to taking notes.
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There are different level of note taking. Some involve scribbling a few sentences while talking to a couple of people, others involve hours of typing, writing equations and sketching diagrams.

I don't see how an iPad Pro is in any way "bigger" than those full size MacBooks...

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Lovely thread OP.

Thanks for starting.

I suspect I will be among the owners. I know my initial feelings after a couple of brief test runs were not being used to the apps or the pencil. Some folks have mentioned the exact things I'd hoped to do with this, and I am determined to ask for help and training...
 
I wanted to chime in here. While there is no way in hell I'd ever use an IPP full time over my Mac, I think it's an amazing device for browsing, reading mags, and consuming other media. Vreynglsd I bought one.
 
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