Which is one of its greatest strengths. The Wired app comes at over 500mb each time, which is way too much for a magazine.
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Which is one of its greatest strengths. The Wired app comes at over 500mb each time, which is way too much for a magazine.
Don't forget Glenn Beck. I would really like a stream of him as well. Too bad Rush is not with NC, because the Rush 24-7 content would go very nicely with this app.
I thought you were being sarcastic, then I read your signature. Wow, sometimes I forget people actually watch Glenn & Rush.
I wish The Daily were available on the iPhone.No iPad for me.
I watched the web stream. Informative but pretty dry and stoic.
Rupert says The Daily has a weekly production overhead of $500,000 or... $72,000 per day. At 11 cents per day they need roughly 650,000 paid subscribers to break even.
The webcast kept referring to advertising revenue though and how The Daily would like half the revenue coming from this. How is advertising implemented in the application? The demo I saw didn't have any banner ads. Are the advertising links embedded inside the articles?
Oh, its in there alright.
no - the rumor sites made this one up
- just because it's on a rumor site, doesn't mean it is true (that is half of the fun of reading rumor sites)EPIC fail..
Positive: it's pretty
Negative: where to start.. Lol
1) CNN exists
2) Flipboard exists
3) various other sources of FREE news (both professionally written and non-formally written from social networks, blogs, tv, YouTube, etc) exist
4) we already have crossword puzzle apps (free or paid for)
5) the reason why a paid model works for Apple in the realm of tv show stream/rentals is because there's no ads, so some (though still little) incentive there...
6) we can find apps just fine by ourselves and opinions on them too.
7) no one is going to pay for news with ads when they already get that free. There are plenty of "pretty" apps that display news and feeds for free.
Apple will regret putting their name behind this fail created by desperate people of a dying medium. Just like I'm sure they regret standing behind the mess that is blu-ray.
Positive: it's pretty
Negative: where to start.. Lol
1) CNN exists
2) Flipboard exists
3) various other sources of FREE news (both professionally written and non-formally written from social networks, blogs, tv, YouTube, etc) exist
4) we already have crossword puzzle apps (free or paid for)
5) the reason why a paid model works for Apple in the realm of tv show stream/rentals is because there's no ads, so some (though still little) incentive there...
6) we can find apps just fine by ourselves and opinions on them too.
7) no one is going to pay for news with ads when they already get that free. There are plenty of "pretty" apps that display news and feeds for free.
Apple will regret putting their name behind this fail created by desperate people of a dying medium. Just like I'm sure they regret standing behind the mess that is blu-ray.
Sorry to rain on this parade
Rough math:
Expenses: $500K per week to produce (after a $30 million write-off investment)
Income: $40/year - 30% Apple commission = $28 / 52 = $0.53/week
Results: Need 928,000 subscribers to break even. Or get major advertising money, which defeats paying for the product (kind of like cable TV)
They'd need 1 out of 15 iPad customers to subscribe (6.6% conversion rate) to break even on the ongoing costs. To recover the initial $30 million within the first year they'd have to more than double those subscription rates, or alternatively get onto at least 10%+ of all iPads to break even in 2 years.
Will be interesting to watch how many other media outlets jump on this financially suicidal wagon.
Rough math:
Expenses: $500K per week to produce (after a $30 million write-off investment)
Income: $40/year - 30% Apple commission = $28 / 52 = $0.53/week
Results: Need 928,000 subscribers to break even. Or get major advertising money, which defeats paying for the product (kind of like cable TV)
They'd need 1 out of 15 iPad customers to subscribe (6.6% conversion rate) to break even on the ongoing costs. To recover the initial $30 million within the first year they'd have to more than double those subscription rates, or alternatively get onto at least 10%+ of all iPads to break even in 2 years.
Will be interesting to watch how many other media outlets jump on this financially suicidal wagon.
Don't turn this into a conservative/liberal news debate. Only the information is neutral, the facts must be interpreted and they are I reflected btpy EVERY news agency out there. NPR is most definitely not neutral. None of them are. The Daily is exciting because of the tech. That's what this board is about.
After playing with it - I won't be subscribing. I may try the two weeks but it'll be hard for it to stay on my device because it crashes all the time.
You nice - the crashes make it unusable .... I really want to try it for the two weeks, but that seems impossible thank to the crashes. I hope they put an update out before the two weeks are over so that I can try it - it's just to frustrating right now.
Every other app that crashes *every* time it's used just for a very short time would get rejected by Apple.
Do we know for sure that they're doing the 30% commission thing with Apple for this? Maybe Murdoch did a different deal with Apple for being the first...
I would expect some sharing of content within the News Corp universe (Fox News, Fox Sports, Wall Street Journel) that will help to reduce cost over time.
What on earth are you talking about?
Fox is not neutral in any way, shape or form, and this technically crafted trojan horse won't be either.
Read:
- CNN
- BBC news
- El Pais (España)
Then compare to fox/the daily. If you can say that these last two are neutral... well, you know... Nothing else to say.
Irony
I guess it goes to show you the social maturity of the MacRumors community when a forum thread on a new app turns into idealogical pissing match.
All news outlets have sections for news and editorials. Yes, I said all. I prefer to obtain news from multiple sources, not one COMPANY'S slant. Yes, that means I frequent CNN, NYT, WP, and NPR, etc. along with FoxNews, NewsMax, WND, etc. It is quite amazing to discover that when you are able to brush aside your political leanings that most news from the various outlets is reported the same. The only difference I see are editorials, which is opinion by definition.
And, if you think non-FoxNews news outlets do not produce their own biased editorials, please educate yourself.
I guess it goes to show you the social maturity of the MacRumors community when a forum thread on a new app turns into idealogical pissing match.
All news outlets have sections for news and editorials. Yes, I said all. I prefer to obtain news from multiple sources, not one COMPANY'S slant. Yes, that means I frequent CNN, NYT, WP, and NPR, etc. along with FoxNews, NewsMax, WND, etc. It is quite amazing to discover that when you are able to brush aside your political leanings that most news from the various outlets is reported the same. The only difference I see are editorials, which is opinion by definition.
And, if you think non-FoxNews news outlets do not produce their own biased editorials, please educate yourself.
The flagrant adds and bias...
Wow, the adds!
Did you see the sleek way to publish some of the adds? Adds as news... Again, entertaining news, this time adds camouflaged as gossip news...
And the news: 'Obama's top geek... blah blah'
Did you see that? That is, my friend, playing with your brain. Putting thoughts in your mind instead of reporting the news as they are. Bad...
Location upload also... for targeted political advertising and propaganda.
No thank you.
Wow, the adds!
Did you see the sleek way to publish some of the adds? Adds as news... Again, entertaining news, this time adds camouflaged as gossip news...
And the news: 'Obama's top geek... blah blah'
Did you see that? That is, my friend, playing with your brain. Putting thoughts in your mind instead of reporting the news as they are. Bad...
Location upload also... for targeted political advertising and propaganda.
No thank you.
Perhaps I was not clear. What you are saying is exactly the point I was trying to make. US news is covered quite well by news channels in Europe and Asia. So "The Daily" doesn't add much value to those in Europe. They already get extensive US news coverage on their news channels. However the reverse is not true. US news agencies are very US focused. There is never extensive coverage of International news here in the US. I always find myself going to foreign newspaper websites to get more detail on world news.
Just read the first issue. I really like it. Its kinda like a newspaper, magazine, web, etc all tied into one. The graphics are very good as is the diversity of page layouts.
Lots of fun little videos and even the ads are fun to watch. But you can just swipe right on by if you want.
I don't see the need to keep the USA Today, Times, BBC or the other news apps I have as they are either extremely light in content or just plainly don't immerse you in the iPad like The Daily does.
The 360 view panorama thing is really nice.
The only downside for me is that videos and internet parts of the app are not available when offline. Could still read the vast majority while offline but still limits when I would want to sit down and read. Not to say you couldn't go back later but doubt I would do that.
I will use for the next 2 weeks but imagine I will subscribe. The price feels right to me.
Lots of fun little videos and even the ads are fun to watch. But you can just swipe right on by if you want.
I don't see the need to keep the USA Today, Times, BBC or the other news apps I have as they are either extremely light in content or just plainly don't immerse you in the iPad like The Daily does.
The 360 view panorama thing is really nice.
The only downside for me is that videos and internet parts of the app are not available when offline. Could still read the vast majority while offline but still limits when I would want to sit down and read. Not to say you couldn't go back later but doubt I would do that.
I will use for the next 2 weeks but imagine I will subscribe. The price feels right to me.
To bigdog5142, thanks for trying. Until somebody starts something crazy ridiculuous, (Sprint is getting the iPhone 5 with ATT & Verizon next year) I'm afraid people will just bludgeon each other. I have done so in the past and I'm not proud of my actions.