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Did you receive the email of death?

  • Yes

    Votes: 256 58.7%
  • No

    Votes: 180 41.3%

  • Total voters
    436
  • Poll closed .
Shipping three million watches isn't some large accomplishment when you look at how many devices they've moved in past launches.

Customers ordering three minutes after the pre-order begins shouldn't be waiting 4-6 weeks for a product. And that's coming from someone who owns thousands of dollars in Apple wares.

Tim Cook's first product launch was a stinker. Hopefully the company learns from this.
 
I'm fairly sure its not as simple as that. What if the cinema had two different types of seats and had two queues, one for people who ordered one type of seats and another queue for the other. If queue A was full but the cinema found they had more seats come available for queue B, should they not allow the people in queue B to have a seat, even though someone in queue A may still be waiting?

My laborious example was there to highlight that there are a huge number of Apple Watch models that you *didn't* order, that are also being manufactured and have people waiting for them. If Apple can fulfil some of them, why shouldn't they?

That's just one example. Pick it apart all you like I'm simply saying that none of us can really comprehend the complexity of manufacturing and shipping at Apple's scale, and when all it comes down to is getting your shiny gadget a day or two later than hoped, I think getting angry and calling for heads to roll is indeed acting irrationally entitled.

The problem with this example is that going to the movies is a still a pretty ****** experience for this very reason/example alone. And if one line of people waiting for a few hours saw another line that was waiting for a few minutes move ahead of them, chaos would ensue.

Again, it's not like this is Apple's first time launching a product at scale. One would assume they have enough information at this point to say exactly when your Watch will be built and shipped.

Regarding the launch strategy, when a VP has to keep messaging internally and externally about how the product launch works and why, that means it's poor design by definition.
 
Regarding the launch strategy, when a VP has to keep messaging internally and externally about how the product launch works and why, that means it's poor design by definition.

agreed. dont talk about the proverbial transparency by keeping both staff and customers in the dark. it makes everyone look stupid.

expectation management should be about being informative, this email was anything but.
 
I am just miffed that people buying the same model in the same country but 20 mins later are getting a 'processing' status when Apple have taken my money and sent me the EOD.
 
Shipping three million watches isn't some large accomplishment when you look at how many devices they've moved in past launches.

But those are launches of already existing products.

The original iPhone sold 270,000 in its first 30 hours.

The original iPad sold 300,000 in its first 24 hours.

I have to assume the reason they were able to ship many more iPhones and iPads in subsequent launches was because they had done it before.
 
This is Apple. Not some brand new company working out of a garage. They have more cash than some countries' GDP.

Selling out of a device with six months of hype under ten minutes is poor planning. I'm one of the biggest "fanboys" you'll meet, but they dropped the ball on this one. From the confusion about "4/24," to devices launching sold out, to an apparent focus on marketing > manufacturing. In a word? It sucked.
 
In what way is it unfair? I started refreshing both the Apple Store app and Apple Store website at 2:45 AM and spent the next 15 minutes doing this. At 3:00 AM the app let me add the watch I wanted to my cart. I got all the way to the checkout page and when I clicked the Apple Pay button it went back to the "store is down" message. So I had to refresh and go thru the same process again. By 3:01 I had a confirmation email saying my order was processing. I've been preparing to ship for two days, have a UPS tracking number for a Friday delivery, and never got any email. I was prepared and my work paid off.

So again, how is this unfair? If people with 3:04 order times want to whine and pout because their order is still processing, maybe they should have ordered three minutes faster. If people are upset because a different model is shipping earlier than theirs, maybe they should have ordered that model. If people who are still at processing are that hurt because they were promised a two week window for delivery and they mistakenly assumed that meant 4/24 instead of 5/8, they can still cancel their orders. I'm sure someone else would love to get their watch sooner.

In what way is the launch a mess? We are still over a day away from orders being delivered. Come the end of Friday, it could turn out that Apple managed to process and ship 3 million watches to countries around the world in the two weeks from pre-order to launch day. What would constitute that as a mess? Because they somehow weren't able to manufacture enough watches to get one into the hands of every single person on the first day of their promised two week launch window? That overnight they managed to become the market leader in a product category they have never had a product in before? That they managed to add hundreds of millions of dollars to their bottom line before a product was even in the hands of consumers?

You sound like a guy who got lucky and who's order is preparing to ship. Tell me if I'm wrong?

I stayed up and had my order in within a 2 mins and now I'm receiving emails for developer promotions, which I could've followed up on, but figured.. "I placed my order weeks before, why bother?"

To top it off customers with a 4-6 week estimate are posting that their orders are preparing to ship. Say what you will, but this has been a mess of a launch
 
The fact that they've now opened up blue sports watches to developers tells me they admittedly placed the wrong emphasis on what varieties to order.

Oh, and the fact that "boutiques" will have stock to sell but loyal customers who stayed up late are SOL? I don't like this new Apple.
 
You sound like a guy who got lucky and who's order is preparing to ship. Tell me if I'm wrong?

You're wrong. I did everything within my power to ensure that I ordered as quickly as possible and because of that, I'll get my watch launch day. If someone prepares and then succeeds, it's not luck, it's because they prepared. If you train for a race and then win because you were the fastest, it's because you were fastest. If Apple had decided to take orders like a lottery and just randomly sent products to everyone who ordered the first hour, that would be luck.
 
You're wrong. I did everything within my power to ensure that I ordered as quickly as possible and because of that, I'll get my watch launch day. If someone prepares and then succeeds, it's not luck, it's because they prepared. If you train for a race and then win because you were the fastest, it's because you were fastest. If Apple had decided to take orders like a lottery and just randomly sent products to everyone who ordered the first hour, that would be luck.

No he's right, it's the luck of the draw.
People ordered the exact same model after me and are preparing for shipment while I'm still processing, please tell me how that makes sense
 
You're wrong. I did everything within my power to ensure that I ordered as quickly as possible and because of that, I'll get my watch launch day. If someone prepares and then succeeds, it's not luck, it's because they prepared. If you train for a race and then win because you were the fastest, it's because you were fastest. If Apple had decided to take orders like a lottery and just randomly sent products to everyone who ordered the first hour, that would be luck.

You don't realize how many people here prepared just like you... They refreshed, favorited their orders to save time, and placed ASAP. I got the first shipment order...

People aren't mad because of being beat out. They're mad because they prepared just like the rest of us and got the short end of the sword..
 
The issue is not how many devices they are shipping... the issue is the number of combinations they need to ship. Typically, if Apple were to launch say a new iPhone, it would come in 3 different storage capacities and perhaps 2 colours. That's essentially 6 different products... However with Apple Watch there are 38 different combos (10 Sport / 20 SS / 8 Edition). That's essentially 38 different products which they are shipping on the same day.

That is the reason they are not stocking them in retail stores for the first few weeks... Each and every person will want a different combo... Assuming there are 3 million pre-orders, they will be spread across those 38 combinations. They had to make a best guess, and this is why they introduced the 'Favourite' feature in the store, to give them an idea of which combos to make the most of. Clearly, there are some combinations which they underestimated, like the Black Sport and SS with BSB.

This does explain why shipping dates slipped so quickly on the 10th... and it is frustrating for those who did get the initial launch window, but theirs has not shipped yet.. But this is why Apple gave a delivery window, and not a delivery date, like they would usually.

And yes, before someone flames me, my order has been charged and my shipping status is 'Preparing for dispatch'. But ultimately, I ordered one of the most common watches, Apple Watch Sport with WSB... So clearly, they had more stock. I believe no heads should roll at Apple.. I think they've actually done a pretty good job on this launch... Other than making people think it will be available to purchase in store on day 1.
 
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The issue is not how many devices they are shipping... the issue is the number of combinations they need to ship. Typically, if Apple were to launch say a new iPhone, it would come in 3 different storage capacities and perhaps 2 colours. That's essentially 6 different products... However with Apple Watch there are 38 different combos (10 Sport / 20 SS / 8 Edition). That's essentially 38 different products which they are shipping on the same day.

That is the reason they are not stocking them in retail stores for the first few weeks... Each and every person will want a different combo... Assuming there are 3 million pre-orders, they will be spread across those 38 combinations. They had to make a best guess, and this is why they introduced the 'Favourite' feature in the store, to give them an idea of which combos to make the most of. Clearly, there are some combinations which they underestimated, like the Black Sport and SS with BSB.
You would have thought that the space grey sports and space blacks would have been the easiest to make and they didn't come in all the different combos. They should have been the ones they made the most of but looks like they made the least!
 
You would have thought that the space grey sports and space blacks would have been the easiest to make and they didn't come in all the different combos. They should have been the ones they made the most of but looks like they made the least!

I agree. My first choice was the space grey model... But again, there are 8 models of the Sport watch in silver, and only 2 in black, so it does make sense that the black would sell out quicker...

I guess they did not think many would order the SS with the sport band... It's one of my fav combos actually.
 
"We Are Working On your order" Emails for 4/24-5/8 Delivery

I , Like most, pre-ordered my watch (3:02am confirm email @ 3:03am) allot earlier than most that I have noticed on the forum that are receiving their status change, cards being charged, etc...
How many more on this forum received this email?
What does it break down to? We will not have our watch on the 24th????
 
Same here. Ordered within 2-3 minutes and got the same email. Ordered 42mm Watch with black sport band. Shipping to Texas.

Did you order the sports or Stainless Steel?
I ordered the 42mm Stainless Steel and have only seen a couple rejoicing about their status changing on this one
 
Stainless Steel. Else I would've said I ordered the Watch Sport. ;)

I should have done Stainless Steel with a white band and just ordered the extra band..... Im a little on edge but won't throw in the towel just yet... Seems really odd that most of the people have pre-ordered the same model (Stainless Steel w/ Sports band) are receiving this email.....
 
I should have done Stainless Steel with a white band and just ordered the extra band..... Im a little on edge but won't throw in the towel just yet... Seems really odd that most of the people have pre-ordered the same model (Stainless Steel w/ Sports band) are receiving this email.....

Me too. Because I also ordered (separately) an extra white band. I should've thought to do the opposite and would probably be getting the watch tomorrow. But was thinking white might be a very popular color like the white iPhones. Who knew.
 
What is Apple customer service saying about this email? Do they even know anything about it? Or is this some new twist?
 
got this email too! ordered 21:09 HST (Hawaii). looks like i'll be (hopefully) receiving this guy next week!
 
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