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The End Of TenFourFox
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Yes, Linux offers more powerful choices, and updated Firefox and Libre Office.
But, number of PPC64 distros is constantly shrinking, here is an alternative developed for Amiga(One) PPC computers that does work on PowerMac. Strangely, in my experience nVIDIA cards are also less supported under Linux.
Since Linux might be the "workaround way" AmigaPPC (AmigaOne) community is trying to maintain updated G5 class PPC distro named "Fienix" https://fienixppc.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html
With Mac instruction available https://fienixppc.blogspot.com/p/download.html
See its 2019 blog review https://amigax5000.wordpress.com/2019/10/27/fienix/
Downside is, I believe, no classic install, just images that can be DD-ed (expanded using Etcher)
However, it can be run and used from USB stick OR DD copied to hard drive partition (of same size)
Overall "specs"
Fienix
OS Type: Linux
Parent Distribution: Debian
Architectures: PowerPC (64-bit kernel default)
Repository Type: APT
Repository Address: http://fienix.servehttp.com/repos/fienix/soar/
Package Type: .deb
Desktop Environment: MATE
User Interface: Fienix Customization Layer
Release Schedule: Releases are based on stability, not schedule
License: Mostly free-software; no-charge/copyright software is noted as such
But, number of PPC64 distros is constantly shrinking, here is an alternative developed for Amiga(One) PPC computers that does work on PowerMac. Strangely, in my experience nVIDIA cards are also less supported under Linux.
Since Linux might be the "workaround way" AmigaPPC (AmigaOne) community is trying to maintain updated G5 class PPC distro named "Fienix" https://fienixppc.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html
With Mac instruction available https://fienixppc.blogspot.com/p/download.html
See its 2019 blog review https://amigax5000.wordpress.com/2019/10/27/fienix/
Downside is, I believe, no classic install, just images that can be DD-ed (expanded using Etcher)
However, it can be run and used from USB stick OR DD copied to hard drive partition (of same size)
Overall "specs"
Fienix
OS Type: Linux
Parent Distribution: Debian
Architectures: PowerPC (64-bit kernel default)
Repository Type: APT
Repository Address: http://fienix.servehttp.com/repos/fienix/soar/
Package Type: .deb
Desktop Environment: MATE
User Interface: Fienix Customization Layer
Release Schedule: Releases are based on stability, not schedule
License: Mostly free-software; no-charge/copyright software is noted as such
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Why no one likes nvidia ? Did they do something wrong ? ATI/AMD seems far more supported. I do notice that.
This is because AMD Drivers are open source, and nVidia ones aren't. You pretty much always have an advantage using AMD video hardware, and if you're running a unix-y os, that's the kind of hardware you want. You can blame nVidia for this, they're the ones who make it harder.
Ah, that explains it
too bad, nvidia could have been something. Again, I am new to Linux hardware that works under it - is it true that even an ATI Radeon 5770 can work under Linux on a quad G5 or any kind of PC based video card ?
AmigaOS (and MorphOS) had an evolution to PowerPC, but finally when it started to bring some fruits, hardware dead ended and are in the same boat as PPC Macs
So, Linux is used similarly, to shorthand the lack of modern software
Even Radeon 9200-9600 would do basic 2D magic, and all HD Radeons work great, even 5770, even I would recommend something a bit higher, like 7000HD or more modern RX cards for 3D.
So, Linux is used similarly, to shorthand the lack of modern software
Ah, that explains it
Even Radeon 9200-9600 would do basic 2D magic, and all HD Radeons work great, even 5770, even I would recommend something a bit higher, like 7000HD or more modern RX cards for 3D.
Wow !!! Those are beefy Radeon cards for Linux. Of course, Leopard wouldn’t run them.. though at one time I had the ATI Radeon x1900GT, a nice card, but the fan broke on it.
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Linux offers more, but MorphOS doesn't run like dog crap like bunches of Linux distros do on PPC.
Yes, i can testify that on modern updated MATE Linux things arent so fast even with dual core PPC 2GHz, 4GB RAM and Radeon HD. However, since it gives access to modern Firefox and Libre Office, some sacrifices can be made. At same time, on single core 2Ghz system and less then 2GB RAM MorphOS and AmigaOS fly in terms of responsiveness.
My only advice for less capable machines is LXDE GUI ("Windows 9.x style of look") that makes things faster, while giving access to same crucial software. Even if your Linux flavour does not comes with it, it can be easily installed and GUI switched on boot. You can have as many GUIs as Linux choices, but not all software works everywhere (e.g. KDE with Compiz, LXDE and MATE)
My only advice for less capable machines is LXDE GUI ("Windows 9.x style of look") that makes things faster, while giving access to same crucial software. Even if your Linux flavour does not comes with it, it can be easily installed and GUI switched on boot. You can have as many GUIs as Linux choices, but not all software works everywhere (e.g. KDE with Compiz, LXDE and MATE)
sorry to interject "off topic", but I'm seeking your help with a prior post of yours:
"Very strange, Photoshop CS6 will run in Mojave with 32-bit execution disabled at the kernel level, but not in Catalina"
Are you willing/able to relate the process to disabled 32-bit execution and enable PS CS6 to run in Mojave., please?
Thank you!
I don't mean to dig this thread back up, but rather than make a new one, I figured it was probably the most relevant choice for this out of all the rest ...
A couple easter eggs I recently discovered in FPR 32.5; what with most of us having moved to InterWeb-PPC by now, did anyone else come across these before?
"We tried to warn you all, oh dear ..."
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EDIT: On second thought, this probably wasn't a subject worth bringing up. Sorry, late night decisions ...
A couple easter eggs I recently discovered in FPR 32.5; what with most of us having moved to InterWeb-PPC by now, did anyone else come across these before?
"We tried to warn you all, oh dear ..."
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EDIT: On second thought, this probably wasn't a subject worth bringing up. Sorry, late night decisions ...
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Yep. Noticed it when i merged in the last few TFF updates to IWPPC.
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I held out on Mojave until updating to Big Sur earlier this year and giving up on Photoshop CS6, sadly I can't remember exactly how I got it to work.
Edit: Photoshop CS6 would run in Mojave without issue but in Catalina it stopped working. What I found strange is that it still worked in Mojave even with 32-bit execution disabled so Photoshop CS6 is technically a 64-bit app, yet the dropping of 32-bit support in Catalina still broke it for whatever reason.
Sad, very sad. I'll do my part and try to make sure that any websites I develop will continue to work in TenFourFox on my iBook G4 for the time being. But the rest of the internet will march on regardless.
Internet browsing on PPC is good until 2035 when TLS 1.4 comes out - but by then Intetweb shoyjd handle it, maybe TenFourFox will too also.
No it doesn't. I have flashed a pc version x1950xt with a mac bios. Without it you get no picture on your powermac.
Yes, I know.. But its install program is not very easy at all. I may take another look at it again.
And OpenBSD, which is possibly the most straightforward to install and set up on PPC (precompiled binary packages 'n' stuff - none of that for FreeBSD).
Oh come on, who needs precompiled binaries, we are building from scratch on 10A190.
People like me who are getting PTSDs from compiling from source, because I don't have a clue about what to do if the build fails
People like me who are getting PTSDs from compiling from source, because I don't have a clue about what to do if the build fails
You panic!
Seriously speaking though, as long as you stay on standard configurations of OS+Xcode, you can file tickets that normally (though not always) get attention of developers. With 10A190 we are on our own though.