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Thanks, you've been very lucky and that's a great find! Congrats.



Enjoy! :)



I've found loads of hardware just from walking around my locality: nothing on the level of an M1 though! :D



There's no time limit. ;)



Nice, what's your current phone - the SE 2020?
Though I wish the camera was a bit better. Same with the battery.
 
Maybe jumping ahead of myself a bit with this, since it’s not yet in my hands (and probably won’t be until later this week), but a friend was starting some spring cleaning and said they had a 2007 aluminium iMac they were getting rid of — no mouse or keyboard, but does at least have the power cord. Because I know little more than that, I’m guessing it’s gonna be the base, 20-inch 2.0GHz model with nothing more.

So in prepping for its imminent arrival, I’m fluttering about and looking at how one can upgrade its innards. What comes to mind is the Hrutkay iMac which was upgraded to a Penryn CPU (which one? no idea). Why no idea? Well, there is a mess of conflicting and guessucated assumptions about whether the only two Penryn CPUs which will work here are the C2D T9300 (2.5GHz) and T9500 (2.6GHz) — the latter of which lives in my A1261 — or whether a third, a 2.8GHz Core 2 Extreme X9000 (with 6MB FSB cache), may also work.

This is where a lot of old, arguably sus anecdata; limited testing on prototype-spec X9000s; and a lot of guessucated conclusions (I’m kind of enjoying this neologism and portmanteau to make an English prof cry in their tea) suggest the X9000 will run. But Apple’s lack of writing in the configuration specifics for this CPU, never to be included in an Apple product, suggests this may invoke the system to downclock the CPU to quarter-speed, to 0.7GHz(!!!). That said, other anecdata suggest the reported low clock speed (in this case, they tested a T9500 in the iMac to find the same) is not the actual performance speed (which is, probably, exactly 2.8GHz).

What none of the online remarks addresses (mostly cos they’re too old, the latest being 2018) is whether running an OCLP patch with that CPU in place might offer a workaround to allow that CPU run at its intended clock speed, assuming it isn’t (and that those anecdata reports of the actual performance speed not being downclocked, despite what System Profiler claims). Whilst very old posts on the MR forums argue it’s not doable, somewhat later ones from less questionable references suggest it may be doable.

With respect to OCLP and an X9000 dropped into a mid-2007 iMac, I feel like the folks who are gonna know definitively and/or have actually tinkered with that combination, and who have the chops to describe why or why not this works, are @dosdude1 and @LightBulbFun (LBF, I might add, did chime in on one of these ca. 2018 threads about pondering the possibility of flashing an iMac7,1 board to an iMac8,1, but to my knowledge, hasn’t been tried).

But first… I gotta get the hecking freebie home. :)
 
Well, there is a mess of conflicting and guessucated assumptions about whether the only two Penryn CPUs which will work here are the C2D T9300 (2.5GHz) and T9500 (2.6GHz) — the latter of which lives in my A1261 — or whether a third, a 2.8GHz Core 2 Extreme X9000 (with 6MB FSB cache), may also work.
Considering the QS X9000 worked (forget what System Profiler says, it's known to be inaccurate in some cases :)) I'd be optimistic that a final X9000 will also work. Ignorance about a certain CPU doesn't necessarily imply it won't run. I think quad-cores have been confirmed not to work though. Of course, there's one very lame argument against the X9000 in a 20": its higher TDP (44W vs. 35W for T9x00s) might cause it to run "too hot".

What none of the online remarks addresses (mostly cos they’re too old, the latest being 2018) is whether running an OCLP patch with that CPU in place might offer a workaround to allow that CPU run at its intended clock speed, assuming it isn’t (and that those anecdata reports of the actual performance speed not being downclocked, despite what System Profiler claims). Whilst very old posts on the MR forums argue it’s not doable, somewhat later ones from less questionable references suggest it may be doable.
Assuming the lower clock speed is "real" and down to the multiplier being set to minimum, the patch would "just" need to set it to the proper value (and keep SpeedStep intact).

Please share an update when you do. I look forward to seeing the iMac and the fruits of your tinkering. :)
Considering the 20" aluminum Macs were downgraded to 6bpc TN panels, I'd be seriously and genuinely interested in knowing whether a 20" 8bpc IPS panel from a 2006 iMac can be retrofitted.
 
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Maybe jumping ahead of myself a bit with this, since it’s not yet in my hands (and probably won’t be until later this week), but a friend was starting some spring cleaning and said they had a 2007 aluminium iMac they were getting rid of — no mouse or keyboard, but does at least have the power cord. Because I know little more than that, I’m guessing it’s gonna be the base, 20-inch 2.0GHz model with nothing more.

So in prepping for its imminent arrival, I’m fluttering about and looking at how one can upgrade its innards. What comes to mind is the Hrutkay iMac which was upgraded to a Penryn CPU (which one? no idea). Why no idea? Well, there is a mess of conflicting and guessucated assumptions about whether the only two Penryn CPUs which will work here are the C2D T9300 (2.5GHz) and T9500 (2.6GHz) — the latter of which lives in my A1261 — or whether a third, a 2.8GHz Core 2 Extreme X9000 (with 6MB FSB cache), may also work.

This is where a lot of old, arguably sus anecdata; limited testing on prototype-spec X9000s; and a lot of guessucated conclusions (I’m kind of enjoying this neologism and portmanteau to make an English prof cry in their tea) suggest the X9000 will run. But Apple’s lack of writing in the configuration specifics for this CPU, never to be included in an Apple product, suggests this may invoke the system to downclock the CPU to quarter-speed, to 0.7GHz(!!!). That said, other anecdata suggest the reported low clock speed (in this case, they tested a T9500 in the iMac to find the same) is not the actual performance speed (which is, probably, exactly 2.8GHz).

What none of the online remarks addresses (mostly cos they’re too old, the latest being 2018) is whether running an OCLP patch with that CPU in place might offer a workaround to allow that CPU run at its intended clock speed, assuming it isn’t (and that those anecdata reports of the actual performance speed not being downclocked, despite what System Profiler claims). Whilst very old posts on the MR forums argue it’s not doable, somewhat later ones from less questionable references suggest it may be doable.

With respect to OCLP and an X9000 dropped into a mid-2007 iMac, I feel like the folks who are gonna know definitively and/or have actually tinkered with that combination, and who have the chops to describe why or why not this works, are @dosdude1 and @LightBulbFun (LBF, I might add, did chime in on one of these ca. 2018 threads about pondering the possibility of flashing an iMac7,1 board to an iMac8,1, but to my knowledge, hasn’t been tried).

But first… I gotta get the hecking freebie home. :)

ya know I had completely forgotten about the X9000 being a thing! but its all coming back to me now :)

as is well known at this point iMac7,1's always miss report the CPU clock speed with Penryn CPU's, that in itself with T9300's and T9500's is just a cosmetic issue


but I do seem to recall researching the the issue being with the X9000 is its unlocked multiplier was working against itself, and here the iMac would just force it to its lowest 6x multiplier

(also someone did flash iMac8,1 Firmware to a 7,1 in the end and while I seem to recall the machine POST'ed, it however had no display, gotta wonder if that was simply a video card issue or not?)



the best way to find out here is just get an X9000, chuck it in and see what happens!

there are tools however to monitor actual clock speeds and temps for these Core 2 Duo CPU's MSR Tools comes to mind, (but you will need a Snow Leopard install for that) so it wont be hard to figure out whats actually going on

case in point an intel DQ965GF that I hacked a Core 2 Duo E7600 to function in, and I wanted to verify actual clock speeds given I knew System profiler would be wonky (because me being me, the nearest to hand functioning OS install I had happened to be a Hackintosh install for Leopard LOL)

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I then Twiddled the clock generator to overclock it, naturally :) but thats not relevant here LOL

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the best way to find out here is just get an X9000, chuck it in and see what happens!

I may just — though I’ll be shopping for what’ll be, I’m sure, a while so to find a decently-priced SLAZ3 revision of it (and from a non-sketchy seller). Aside from the obvious two places (the bay or ali), I wouldn’t even begin to know where to find old used CPUs.
 
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The gentleman who I got my G5 Quad from called and told me he had found the original OS disks and some other OS disks too (10.5.6 and 10.6 retails) + some speakers and I can have them if i want. Sure. When i picked them up he also gave me something I didn't even know existed... 😳

The Lacie FireWire -speakers.

I didn't know that LaCie made speakers either!

Have you had a chance to put them through their paces yet? :)
 
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I just connected them to my iBook G4 for testing. They have a FW 400 plug only so had to figure out what machine to test them in, then remembered the iBook. Well, they are surprisingly loud! And do sound quite ok for such a smallish speakers.

I didn't have to do any adjusting in the G4 like they had to do in that linked review. It also has a 3.5mm plug hole so iPods etc. can be used as a source but without the computer an external wall wart is needed.

It says "designed by Neil Poulton" on the bottom, didn't he do lots of stuff for Lacie back in the day?

The speakers have aquired a good vintage yellowing, my iBook is still pure white. 😜 BTW. that iBook was a freebie too from my wifes work. Basically unused machine, their IT-support didn't like macs and it was the only one, sitting unused for until 6 years ago. It went like: "we are going to trash this, you can have it if you want it?".

Ps. About the G5 Quad: I decided to give the Quad a cooling overhaul closer to summer so I can do it outside. The machine passes all the ASD -tests but crashes during thermal calibration due overheating. Doesn't crash during normal use but one of the cores heats more than others so I want to play it safe and not use it before flush, fluid and thermal paste change. So, meanwhile I will transfer the disks back to my G5 2.0DC and use it instead.

Ps. I also have the Apple Cube speakers and H/K SoundSticks with the iSub. Cube speakers need new foams though.
 

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Oh yes of course. My first thought after that was fashioning a 3D printed mount for them and then bringing up a gif of MM's face (no ears) on the screen LOL.

Those FW speakers are cool.
 
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There's something to be said for the artistic daring of Evil Mickey.

Unsurprisingly, I never knew about this, but given how it was handled and its demise, everything about that reaction is extremely on-brand for Disney.

Unsurprisingly, thrown into the memory hole by Disney...

They, better than most, really take on that idea to an extreme level, especially with their reifying “the vault” as a euphemism for controlling artificial supply and demand on Disney “properties”.

Thing is, here’s why my little-kid brain rejected Disney so early:

I was accustomed to watching cartoon shorts on places like Saturday morning television or after-school-hours local TV. They were mostly re-runnings of old Looney Tunes, MGM, or Universal Studios acts (so basically, Bugs Bunny, Tom & Jerry, Woody Woodpecker, and so on). Disney, meanwhile, had the corner on another of those-era characters in their old animated shorts.

The difference is the Disney stuff never aired during those slots, ever. Instead, Disney would air a whole dog-and-pony show on early-evening prime time on a major American network (typically, ABC, but I vaguely remember one or two airing possibly on NBC). It was called something like The Wide Wonderful World of Disney. It would end up being a weekly sampler of Disney products, but in the opening teaser, it would promise one of the Disney animated shorts with Mickey Mouse, Goofy, etc., would play during the hour. And sure enough, it would, but only at the very end, and there’d only be one.

But first, the viewer would have to sit through editor-hacked cuts from a cadre of Disney live-action films (whose ages even then were impossible to ignore) and voiced-over segments of animated Disney movies. And, of course, some segment with the long-dead Walt Disney in a studio set (usually a blank background, with my memory suggesting a robin’s egg blue) preaching to all the little kids watching how awesome Disney was. And he had that creepy waxed moustache thing going on, which didn’t help at all.

The whole thing was a major turnoff, and by the time I’d entered primary school, I was already not a fan of Disney-anything. This only became more so my the early/mid ’80s when a new cable channel went on air, The Disney Channel, but it was pay-only premium. The rest of Disney stuff which did make it to broadcast television in the later ’80s and earlier ’90s was about as exciting as room-temperature gelatinous porridge.
 
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Maybe jumping ahead of myself a bit with this, since it’s not yet in my hands (and probably won’t be until later this week), but a friend was starting some spring cleaning and said they had a 2007 aluminium iMac they were getting rid of — no mouse or keyboard, but does at least have the power cord. Because I know little more than that, I’m guessing it’s gonna be the base, 20-inch 2.0GHz model with nothing more.

So in prepping for its imminent arrival, I’m fluttering about and looking at how one can upgrade its innards. What comes to mind is the Hrutkay iMac which was upgraded to a Penryn CPU (which one? no idea). Why no idea? Well, there is a mess of conflicting and guessucated assumptions about whether the only two Penryn CPUs which will work here are the C2D T9300 (2.5GHz) and T9500 (2.6GHz) — the latter of which lives in my A1261 — or whether a third, a 2.8GHz Core 2 Extreme X9000 (with 6MB FSB cache), may also work.

This is where a lot of old, arguably sus anecdata; limited testing on prototype-spec X9000s; and a lot of guessucated conclusions (I’m kind of enjoying this neologism and portmanteau to make an English prof cry in their tea) suggest the X9000 will run. But Apple’s lack of writing in the configuration specifics for this CPU, never to be included in an Apple product, suggests this may invoke the system to downclock the CPU to quarter-speed, to 0.7GHz(!!!). That said, other anecdata suggest the reported low clock speed (in this case, they tested a T9500 in the iMac to find the same) is not the actual performance speed (which is, probably, exactly 2.8GHz).

What none of the online remarks addresses (mostly cos they’re too old, the latest being 2018) is whether running an OCLP patch with that CPU in place might offer a workaround to allow that CPU run at its intended clock speed, assuming it isn’t (and that those anecdata reports of the actual performance speed not being downclocked, despite what System Profiler claims). Whilst very old posts on the MR forums argue it’s not doable, somewhat later ones from less questionable references suggest it may be doable.

With respect to OCLP and an X9000 dropped into a mid-2007 iMac, I feel like the folks who are gonna know definitively and/or have actually tinkered with that combination, and who have the chops to describe why or why not this works, are @dosdude1 and @LightBulbFun (LBF, I might add, did chime in on one of these ca. 2018 threads about pondering the possibility of flashing an iMac7,1 board to an iMac8,1, but to my knowledge, hasn’t been tried).

But first… I gotta get the hecking freebie home. :)

Update!

I now have a super-basement A1224 iMac7,1 from which to make a budget thing better (instead of making it to a landfill/recycling).

Short-term tasks: trying to locate a Core 2 Extreme X9000 I can afford and, also, throwing in a simple, small SSD (120GB) I have lying about, to replace the rust.

I’m open to suggestions on what other improvements could come of this chonky boi!

Maybe that means leeway with another GPU, though I have no idea whether dropping in an early-Penryn-era MXM (like an Geforce 9400/9600 GT, vis-à-vis the late 2008/early 2009 Macs) would work in this setting. Also unknown: whether one can, successfully, flash the firmware to iMac8,1.

The phone lines are open. Call in now! 📞

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Unsurprisingly, I never knew about this, but given how it was handled and its demise, everything about that reaction is extremely on-brand for Disney.

They, better than most, really take on that idea to an extreme level, especially with their reifying “the vault” as a euphemism for controlling artificial supply and demand on Disney “properties”.

This, is why I wish that George Lucas hadn't sold Lucasfilm to Disney. It's a crying shame that he didn't appoint someone that he trusted to take the company onwards as CEO etc and step back with a supervisory role. Whilst there have been undeniably positive developments from the acquisition, there have also been numerous lamentable ones.

I have to admit that I do glean some schadenfreude from Sony constantly thwarting Disney's attempts to regain the film rights to Spiderman by simply releasing a new instalment periodically.

Thing is, here’s why my little-kid brain rejected Disney so early:

I was accustomed to watching cartoon shorts on places like Saturday morning television or after-school-hours local TV. They were mostly re-runnings of old Looney Tunes, MGM, or Universal Studios acts (so basically, Bugs Bunny, Tom & Jerry, Woody Woodpecker, and so on). Disney, meanwhile, had the corner on another of those-era characters in their old animated shorts.

My childhood was similar on this front. :)

The difference is the Disney stuff never aired during those slots, ever. Instead, Disney would air a whole dog-and-pony show on early-evening prime time on a major American network (typically, ABC, but I vaguely remember one or two airing possibly on NBC). It was called something like The Wide Wonderful World of Disney. It would end up being a weekly sampler of Disney products, but in the opening teaser, it would promise one of the Disney animated shorts with Mickey Mouse, Goofy, etc., would play during the hour. And sure enough, it would, but only at the very end, and there’d only be one.

But first, the viewer would have to sit through editor-hacked cuts from a cadre of Disney live-action films (whose ages even then were impossible to ignore) and voiced-over segments of animated Disney movies. And, of course, some segment with the long-dead Walt Disney in a studio set (usually a blank background, with my memory suggesting a robin’s egg blue) preaching to all the little kids watching how awesome Disney was. And he had that creepy waxed moustache thing going on, which didn’t help at all.

In the UK our equivalent was Disney Time and it similarly offered a glimpse of a catalogue that was largely only available on home video or theatrical re-releases but I never encountered the latter during visits to the cinema. It aired alongside an unprecedented number of Disney films which had been licensed to UK broadcasters. Tellingly though, The Black Hole - which had been a flop, was shown just three years after its theatrical release whilst Dumbo wasn't screened till the mid 80s.

The whole thing was a major turnoff, and by the time I’d entered primary school, I was already not a fan of Disney-anything. This only became more so my the early/mid ’80s when a new cable channel went on air, The Disney Channel, but it was pay-only premium. The rest of Disney stuff which did make it to broadcast television in the later ’80s and earlier ’90s was about as exciting as room-temperature gelatinous porridge.

My enthusiasm for earlier Disney fare is tempered by the knowledge that "Uncle Walt" was an eager informant for the HUAC - making people unemployable, used a scene in Dumbo as an attack on striking animators, took undeserved credit for the work of others, was discriminatory - among many other misdeeds.

Update!

I now have a super-basement A1224 iMac7,1 from which to make a budget thing better (instead of making it to a landfill/recycling).

Congrats! I'm looking forward to seeing how you get on with this. :)
 
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