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the idiocracy of the iPhone 8 bezel cutout design in all those dummies and mockups
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How much less could you care?
That cutout won't be there on the final build. I would bet just about anything on that. It does look hideous and would be really stupid of Apple to have on their new flagship phone.
Sorry, you think the chin won’t be on the new iPhone? That’s literally the only thing we are 100% on.
There is over a 95% chance the cutout is there, based on evidence. You'd have to be numb to the myriad of evidence that is slapping you in the face to even consider for a second that the OLED display for the 2017 iPhone is not cutout like that.How much less could you care?
That cutout won't be there on the final build. I would bet just about anything on that. It does look hideous and would be really stupid of Apple to have on their new flagship phone.
Now, what you are correct about is the cutout looking hideous IF Apple decides to place lit screen inside the 'ears'. It's obvious that the ears should be black at all times, with status elements inside them in white. If that were the case then the cutout would blend into the black ears and you would be unable to discern that the display is cut like that unless you were in the correct light.
[doublepost=1504385506][/doublepost]The cutout in the display is great engineering and intelligent design. However, filling those corners with lit screen is not. Here are the reasons why the cutout is a great idea and pushes the design to its maximum, and why it is, and would be a terrible idea:
Good idea:
• Nets about 1/8" (height) of additional screen real estate in displacing the status bar with usable space.
• New off-screen elements can be placed inside the corners when in full-screen landscape content
Bad idea:
• If the corners are fully lit, that will only use more battery and draw attention to the cutout, creating an asymmetrical design, as opposed to only showing status element pixels lit within black backgrounds. People love battery life but they don't consider this I suppose.
• It's been reported that designing the display with the cutout has created a very low-yield rate for the screens, and therefore a great supply shortage and likely a contributing factor in its higher price. So, the 1/8" increase in screen real estate results in massive supply shortages and cost increase.
I think it's excellent. We don't need bluetooth and rotation lock icons present on the screen all the time; besides, I'm sure it'll be adaptive and smart (as previously reported), so a tap may reveal all that. I think but putting key information in the top cutouts, more screen estate is available for usage. To me, that's excellent and I'm excited for this smart and wonderful display.
I agree with OP. Remember the show The Office, when they made the tablet with a triangle screen? Why would Apple possibly make a screen with a cut out? I just can't figure out why that would possibly be done.
This is the kind of logic that makes no sense the way the way people describe it. Just look at the dummy mockup!
Clock, Signal Strength, Wifi, Battery
If you have bluetooth on, LTE network indicator... there is no room period! Dynamic status bar switching to include these other icons make no sense at all.
It's a waste of your time to have to "wait" for the status indicator to change based on what your looking for. How often does the status bar change to show one set of icons versus the others?
In real-world use, people are saying its going to just "alternate" between different icons if you have more than the limited room on the current status bar can fit? Sounds less productive, less timely, and annoying to see "dynamic" alternating status bar icons to me. Brillian design.
If this design is accepted, next thing you know, they would justify "improving" this further by making one space for the clock, and another space for a single icon that would rotate between Signal Strength, Wifi, Battery, Bluetooth, etc. That would save more space and make more room for other stuff wouldn't it?
People need to actually think about what they are reading, and how this would actually work on a device your holding rather than just taking an excerpt from Bloomberg and thinking "oh its dynamic so its going to be very easy to use for me and the odd design just works!".
Nice.
One less person that I'll have to fight with during pre-order
One less person that I'll have to fight with during pre-order
Control Center has icon indicators rotation lock, and bluetooth, and personal hotspot. The clock/time can be accessed by swiping down if the phone is in use, viewing the Clock app icon, or viewing the lock screen if applicable.
I expect the cut out will leave signal and carrier info on the left, and battery and app location usage.
I have no idea how the cutout will impact experience, for anyone that hates it, there's the 7S/+ or android. Take your pick.
Personally, I'd wait till the reveal before getting my knickers in a bind.
I expect the cut out will leave signal and carrier info on the left, and battery and app location usage.
I have no idea how the cutout will impact experience, for anyone that hates it, there's the 7S/+ or android. Take your pick.
Personally, I'd wait till the reveal before getting my knickers in a bind.
Well, if the cutout is there, then I'm sticking with Android. Not a chance I get a phone with that ridiculous cutout. And no, I'm not getting a 7S or 7S Plus. If it's not the new generation, then I guess I'm sticking with the evil Google phones.
Isn't this X/Pro/8 going to be slightly wider than the 7? Hopefully that means 1 or 2 more icons can be squeezed into the split Status Bar.
Looking at my phone, I have:
Signal Dots & Carrier Name, Wifi, Time, Location Services arrow, Bluetooth, Battery %, Battery Icon.
Here's how space could be saved imo....
• Remove Carrier Name - we know which carrier we're with & don't need to be reminded of it. It could be moved to the Control Centre instead, so if we travel & insert a foreign SIM, then we can just confirm the carrier there. This will gain the most space & perhaps allow 2 more icons.
• The Signal Dots will be replaced with the older Bars, which will gain 1 more icon.
• Move Battery % into the Battery Icon. The Battery Icon can be made higher with the space of this proposed Status Bar, & hence should fit the % figure. The Charging Bolt icon can also fit in there at the same time, it'll be tight, but I think it can be done. This gains 1 more icon.
So just from the above tweaks, 4 more icons can be squeezed in. But 3 of those will be taken up by the Time, so that leaves space for 1 extra icon. But the wider form factor allows for at least 1 more icon. & is it just me, or is the proposed split Status Bar a little thicker than the current one - could we see dual row icons on one side, perhaps with a few icons under the Time?
For eg.
Left Row 1: Time, Signal Bars, Wifi………………………...................Right (1 row only): Bluetooth, Battery %/Icon.
Left Row 2: Location Services Arrow, etc.
Or, if space Permits...
Left Status Bar area: Time, Signal Bars, Wifi, Bluetooth………………………...................Right Status Bar area: Location Services Arrow etc, Battery %/Icon.
Looking at my phone, I have:
Signal Dots & Carrier Name, Wifi, Time, Location Services arrow, Bluetooth, Battery %, Battery Icon.
Here's how space could be saved imo....
• Remove Carrier Name - we know which carrier we're with & don't need to be reminded of it. It could be moved to the Control Centre instead, so if we travel & insert a foreign SIM, then we can just confirm the carrier there. This will gain the most space & perhaps allow 2 more icons.
• The Signal Dots will be replaced with the older Bars, which will gain 1 more icon.
• Move Battery % into the Battery Icon. The Battery Icon can be made higher with the space of this proposed Status Bar, & hence should fit the % figure. The Charging Bolt icon can also fit in there at the same time, it'll be tight, but I think it can be done. This gains 1 more icon.
So just from the above tweaks, 4 more icons can be squeezed in. But 3 of those will be taken up by the Time, so that leaves space for 1 extra icon. But the wider form factor allows for at least 1 more icon. & is it just me, or is the proposed split Status Bar a little thicker than the current one - could we see dual row icons on one side, perhaps with a few icons under the Time?
For eg.
Left Row 1: Time, Signal Bars, Wifi………………………...................Right (1 row only): Bluetooth, Battery %/Icon.
Left Row 2: Location Services Arrow, etc.
Or, if space Permits...
Left Status Bar area: Time, Signal Bars, Wifi, Bluetooth………………………...................Right Status Bar area: Location Services Arrow etc, Battery %/Icon.
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I am referring to all the mockups, leaks, and graphics for the iPhone 8 with the bezel cutout.
The top cutout display of the iPhone 8 mockups/leaks/dummys are ridiculous and make absolutely no sense except "being different". Looking at some of the mockups included on MacRumors News Posts (and are floating around elsewhere, people need to realize how this design makes absolutely no sense.
Looking at an image like this, which is the same in white in other dummy/dumb mockups.
Notice how the status bar contains the clock on the top left, and the signal, wifi, and battery on the upper right.
Where would bluetooth and other indicators go? What about LTE?
What happens if you have bluetooth on? Where does the bluetooth symbol go? t can't fit in the space around the camera/speaker cutout can it? Can it appear below the clock or the other icons? No, that area is for the home screen or apps. The only other option is to make the top bar scrollable? Which makes no sense and not useful for an indicator to be hidden unless scrolled to.
Manufacturing-wise, it seems like way too much trouble for apple to create such a cutout display that requires the software to behave exceptionally for a odd shaped display with the cutout.
If anything, it would make sense for Apple to take the "Infinity Edge" display approach that the Samsung Galaxy 8 Plus has taken where the screen is still rectangular, and eliminates bezels where possible (but maybe Samsung has a patent on it already?).
There is not enough reward for making such a custom-shaped display.
No one is going to copy that irregular, senseless display.
Unless those areas of the display get used for something else (maybe two big buttons) or a "touchbar-esque" interface where different shortcuts can be displayed or indicators for games that may make more sense. Though the status bar as we know it should stay in the rectangular section below the bezel cutout effectively making two "ears" that emerge out of the standard rectangular display.
No matter how you rationalize it, it is strange, silly, makes almost no sense... though it does make us "Think Different", though not for the wrong reasons. I wouldn't be surprised if the Apple announcement shows a brand new iPhone 8 that does not look anything like the mockup and maintains a rectangular display (maybe as a Tim Cook getting to think/say "ha leakers, I got you" sort of act.
Unless there is a different purpose of the bezel cutout, today's leaks make no sense and from a human factors standpoint, do not support even current needs of any display.
So you criticizing what 'might-be' instead of confirmed features which up-to-now...is little, unless you listen to the various 'informed sources', which in that case, still isn't confirmed by Apple.
You got time on your hands...aren't you glad then that all will be revealed in less than 2 weeks?!
I look at the Bluetooth icon to make sure my AirPods are connected because I don't want sound coming out of the speakers with people in the room with me. I don't want an extra step in order to confirm that.
Yet somehow I can switch between my iPhones 7’s home button and my iPad Pro -where I use a gesture to get to the springboard, without any issues.
Thing is with us Apple fans... if you like it enough you will just buy it and get used to it because Apple always manage to get us to adapt to the changes no matter what
The cutout will most definitely be there but it will be barely noticeable cause I'm pretty sure they'll have the status bar parts left and right of it with a black background, like in that Forbes article:
The cutout will most definitely be there but it will be barely noticeable cause I'm pretty sure they'll have the status bar parts left and right of it with a black background, like in that Forbes article:
Which is fine and looks fine. Unlike the very first pic in this thread. This pic is nothing different than what is already out there. The first pic in this thread looks ridiculous and there is no way that would be the way it is. It will be this.
I agree with the OP. Those damn camera lense and that flash are in the way. Apple would've been better to just place the camera lens under the screen so it will not interfere with the screen size. This problem has been keeping me up for countless night with NO sleep!!! Just like the OP I have no life !!!!
Same thing with the iPhone X having it's 2 rear cameras in vertical orientation. It is just to be different, not for any reasons linked with being better.
Could the vertical camera orientation be to make room for something else inside the body of the phone? Additional front sensors, perhaps?
thats why i still use iPhone 4 and still see no reason to upgrade anytime soon.
That's a reasonable explanation, I remember reading about a special L shaped battery. But then that just begs the question why the iPhone 7s isn't the same.
Want to try that again?
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Are the 7 models getting the Face ID hardware? Just a thought.