The current one is good but needs a hardware upgrade. Apple knows people will buy second gen because the first gen is crippled. 256MB RAM, facetime, gyroscope and many such were purposefully not included, that just pisses me off...
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The iPad needs at LEAST 512MB RAM, if not 1GB.
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The current one is good but needs a hardware upgrade. Apple knows people will buy second gen because the first gen is crippled. 256MB RAM, facetime, gyroscope and many such were purposefully not included, that just pisses me off...
This is why apple does not tell the ram specs. Because people don't understand how it works. and they think they need more then they really need. The apps in the app store don't even need that much ram so you guys are just wanting more then you need because you can
Yes. A lot of people in these threads are filled with people that one might call "tech geeks." They like their specs like a fat guy likes his baked potato... LOADED- extra bacon bits.
When we pay money we really do expect something, atleast we want it to get the work done as advertised. Comparing iPad and iPhone, iPad clearly needs more RAM than iPhone and guess what, iPad has half of what iPhone has. The problem is you guys think whatever Apple does is right..
Possibly, or maybe it was because they were entering a new market with a device that was being criticized as a failure before it even shipped. The profit margins are already thin on the iPad so I can't imagine they're going to go balls to the wall with specs if they don't know how it's going to sell.
I believe this to be true. I think Apple played it VERY safe with the iPad. I know it sounded like at the time that the A4 chip was designed just for the iPad, but of course it would make it into their entire portable line. So the only exclusive development time was the screen/casing/touch panel.
So, really, a safe, smart move from Apple. But now I/we want more. And be assured we'll get more next time. The competition is heating up (though in my opinion no tablet comes even close to iOS's slick ui).
Who said that?
I thought it was widely talked about that Apple had set a price that they were going to, and had room to drop by quite a bit if it turned out to be a flop.
As it sold better than expected, no price drop was needed.
http://mashable.com/2010/04/07/isuppli-ipad-cost/
I think the issue is and always has been that people have been annoyed and frustrated that Apple took a step back as far as RAM and reloading tabs/apps is concerned.
The iPhone 3G had 128MB RAM and reloaded tabs in Safari a lot. In 2009, Apple introduced the iPhone 3GS with 256MB RAM, which totally fixed the tab reloading problem. Then in 2010, Apple introduced the iPad with 256MB RAM, but because of the more resource intensive OS, this caused the iPad to suffer from the same problems that the iPhone 3G had, even though Apple had already fixed them more than 6 months earlier with the 3GS in the iPhone line. So in 2010, Apple reintroduced a problem that first came about in 2008 and was fixed in 2009.
And I can see why people were/are annoyed about this because it's just not what you expect from Apple. Apple cheaped out on RAM for the iPad, plain and simple. I hope they've learned that lesson well, and I expect to see maybe 768MB or more RAM in the iPad 2.
The iPhone 3G had 128MB RAM and reloaded tabs in Safari a lot. In 2009, Apple introduced the iPhone 3GS with 256MB RAM, which totally fixed the tab reloading problem. Then in 2010, Apple introduced the iPad with 256MB RAM, but because of the more resource intensive OS, this caused the iPad to suffer from the same problems that the iPhone 3G had, even though Apple had already fixed them more than 6 months earlier with the 3GS in the iPhone line. So in 2010, Apple reintroduced a problem that first came about in 2008 and was fixed in 2009.
And I can see why people were/are annoyed about this because it's just not what you expect from Apple. Apple cheaped out on RAM for the iPad, plain and simple. I hope they've learned that lesson well, and I expect to see maybe 768MB or more RAM in the iPad 2.
Huh. I guess this explains why I don't find the reloading tabs in Safari annoying. I never used Safari much on the iPhone/iPod touch, since I found the screen too small to read comfortably, so I never noticed that the reloading tabs problem was fixed. Since in my mind, all iDevices always reloaded Safari tabs, when iPad reloads tabs, that was how I expected it to behave.
Well, yes, I can see that, but my point is I never noticed their leap forward. Which in this case turns out to have been lucky, as I'm not annoyed by their leap backwards.
Well, yes, I can see that, but my point is I never noticed their leap forward. Which in this case turns out to have been lucky, as I'm not annoyed by their leap backwards.
Yeah! Unfortunately, the tab reloading on the 3G drove me bonkers, so it was with great joy that this was rectified by the 3GS. Imagine my dismay when I got the iPad!
While I agree that the iPad needs more than 256MB of memory, I also don't see the need for 1GB, nor do I see 512MB as still enough. 768MB should be the spot.
The reasoning makes sense in theory, but the available RAM is not 256MB in the first place. The system requires about half of that 256MB, so in practice our iPads only have around 120-130MB free RAM.I suppose, if I was Apple
I'd fit 1GB
It's apparent that now, 7 ish months after the iPad's launch that 256MB is starting to be an issue in some ways.
512 is on the current iPhone and I think we are all saying it would make todays iPad NOW all sweet and happy.
If we think we are getting a rear camera, it has to do video and then it's a given it will have an iMovie app.
So, given this, AND iPad apps are going to grow over the next year etc etc.
The next iPad has to have enough RAM fitted on day one to last for a year and half from today.
Plus you have Blackberry who are going to shout and shout and shout about their Playbook having 1GB of Ram.
If Apple fitted 1GB, sure it may not be totally 100% needed on day one (though I'd sure iMovie would not complain about more memory)
But it would stop any issues from occurring over the months next year and allow even more advanced apps.
Plus of course, it would stop the competition of using at as a weak point to the general public, as to the man in the street more and bigger numbers are better.
I'd happily pay a few dollars more to have the future proof 1GB of RAM rather than the 512MB
I can't believe in the millions that Apple are buying there is much price difference at all really.
We don't want to be at this time next year saying how the iPad 2 is struggling with it's 512MB and why didn't they fit more.
I just looked, the current 256MB of RAM cost $11.90 back earlier in the year.
What this means, is that an increase to 512MB wouldn't be doubling the RAM, it would actually be tripling it.
So while an upgrade to 512MB might seem meager, it's actually bigger than we might think. I think we'll be fine with 512MB in gen 2, and 1GB can probably wait until gen 3 or 4.
Have you tried multi-tab browsing on the iPad? Runs out of memory quite quickly
I have never ran out of memory and I regularly have 15 or so tabs open in iCab.
I've never had the low memory warning doing anything.
lack of sufficient memory is THE reason I decided not to get an ipad. Click "open in new tab," then try to navigate back to your original webpage and you have to reload it.............................................. are you effing kidding me? It cant even cache a single web page?
I agree with you, some people don't get it
I think Apple will fit 512MB and save 1GB for iPad3 perhaps.
They are not going to throw every upgrade at Mk2.
They need the iPad2 to be having at least some small issues this time next year to make us look forward to iPad3 solving the issues.
You will want to do some research before commenting.
Memory modules comes in a factor of two, so it will require an extra memory module to an already sparse print circuit board to reach 768MB.
You want a single 256MB, 512MB, or 1GB module, not three or two modules.
The new System-on-a-Chip will most likely require more ram and at least 512MB (preferably 1GB).
Hmm... are you sure that was an iPad you were using? I've currently got 20 tabs open and I'm flipping between them quite happily with no reloading happening.
Note: thats using iCab, but you can definitely do that in Safari too, albeit to a lower number of tabsbut that number is most certainly not 'one'.
while I agree the iPad does need more ram, I think this is a bad example. Infinity Blade is a texture heavy game.
On your gaming PC do you play a fullscreen, resource heavy game with a web browser open in the background? I typically don't. With my new MacBook pro and 4GB of ram it is not as much of an issue, but on my old gaming PC with just 2GB of ram I would start paging if I left other apps open in the background.
I find the 256MB let's me switch between 4-5 productivity apps with no issue. The 512 MB is a lot better so expect the iPad 2 wil have at least 512MB.
And about the playbook having 1GB...it is going to need it running all those adobe air apps....
You know why the iPad didn't get a front facing camera? Or 512MB of RAM? Or Face Time?
Because the iPad is not Apple's flagship iOS device, that's why.
The iPhone is. The iPhone will always be the first with the new features until another iDevice becomes more popular. Right now the only other iDevice that has a chance of getting the 'cult like' following that the iPhone has is the iPad.
Until the iPad has people camping out a week early and/or buying a couple million over opening weekend, the iPhone will continue to be the first to have the new toys.
So the iPad will continue to be 'behind' as far as iOS devices are concerned, unless Apple changes their release schedule to iPhone in the spring, iPad in the summer.
MHO.
Because the iPad is not Apple's flagship iOS device, that's why.
The iPhone is. The iPhone will always be the first with the new features until another iDevice becomes more popular. Right now the only other iDevice that has a chance of getting the 'cult like' following that the iPhone has is the iPad.
Until the iPad has people camping out a week early and/or buying a couple million over opening weekend, the iPhone will continue to be the first to have the new toys.
So the iPad will continue to be 'behind' as far as iOS devices are concerned, unless Apple changes their release schedule to iPhone in the spring, iPad in the summer.
MHO.