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Yes but most consumers (I would say 85%+) will see the subsidized pricing so there still won't be any need to 'justify a higher' price from a purchaser standpoint... Also $499 and $599 are also the same prices of the non subsidized iPhones... so it still won't be a higher price than the iPad. It will be the same price.

The actual unsubsidized prices are $599 & $699 respectively for the 16Gb and 32Gb. So yeah, there's a disparity in price of a 16Gb iPad with a 10" screen and a 16Gb iPhone with a 3.5" screen. Even if you take into account the 3G iPad it still costs less than a 16Gb iPhone.

85% won't see the subsidized price as 85% could very well not be eligible for a fully discount iPhone this time around. Depends on how AT&T handles upgrades for the vast majority of iPhone owners.
 
Wow, I didn't know that it sounds very un-apple like.

It's an option if you're jailbroken and it's terrible. Freezes here and there to accommodate the speeds of flash memory.

It's obvious why Apple doesn't utilize it like it is in its current state.
 
The actual unsubsidized prices are $599 & $699 respectively for the 16Gb and 32Gb. So yeah, there's a disparity in price of a 16Gb iPad with a 10" screen and a 16Gb iPhone with a 3.5" screen. Even if you take into account the 3G iPad it still costs less than a 16Gb iPhone.

85% won't see the subsidized price as 85% could very well not be eligible for a fully discount iPhone this time around. Depends on how AT&T handles upgrades for the vast majority of iPhone owners.

Actually the real cost is about US$680 and US$800 for unlocked phones.
 
Maybe where you live, in the US we don't have that luxury so the prices I quoted are in fact true.

So where'd you get the unsubsidised values from? I'm curious because I'm not aware of any US 'unlocked' pricing.

The price of Australian products to US products have been squarely pegged at 1.3(-/+0.05) * US price for just about every single product released in the last few years. Getting them from the Apple Online Store, the 16GB is $880 and 32GB is $1040.
 
You'd think the best feature to help the iphone regarding ibooks would be a larger screen...

actually this is more beneficial than a larger screen. To have the text in ibook be the quality of print would be mindblowing. Once again, I'll keep posting the link since everyone should read it at least once to get a better understanding of Apple's goals:

http://daringfireball.net/2010/04/why_960_by_640
 
The actual unsubsidized prices are $599 & $699 respectively for the 16Gb and 32Gb. So yeah, there's a disparity in price of a 16Gb iPad with a 10" screen and a 16Gb iPhone with a 3.5" screen. Even if you take into account the 3G iPad it still costs less than a 16Gb iPhone.

85% won't see the subsidized price as 85% could very well not be eligible for a fully discount iPhone this time around. Depends on how AT&T handles upgrades for the vast majority of iPhone owners.

Many ATT iPhone customers are already reporting that ATT has preemptively pushed their upgrade eligibility date to June which is the same month that the new iPhone is supposedly available... seems too much a coincidence to me not to be on purpose. I've had all the iPhones and regardless of my upgrade date, I've been able to get one on launch at the subsidized price. ATT has done this all three years for it's current iPhone users so they can get the new iPhone each year under subsidy. :D
 
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I can see them adding 512mb of ram to "justify" the higher cost of the iPhone over the iPad.

I am in the camp: I'll believe it when I see it.

I disagree. That really isn't how apple distinguishes between lines. There have been, for example, MacBooks with higher clockspeeds, bigger HDs, and I think even more RAM than MacBook pros sold at the same time. And those are products that are much more likely to need differentiation than a phone and a tablet.
 
So where'd you get the unsubsidised values from? I'm curious because I'm not aware of any US 'unlocked' pricing.

The price of Australian products to US products have been squarely pegged at 1.3(-/+0.05) * US price for just about every single product released in the last few years. Getting them from the Apple Online Store, the 16GB is $880 and 32GB is $1040.

The prices for non-contract 3GS iPhones are $599 and $699. Those are just contract-free phones (i.e. unsubsidized), not unlocked phones. There are no unlocked iPhones in the U.S. unless you purchase one and unlock it yourself.
 
I don't seem to be making myself clear. There are literally dozens of different A8 processors with varying clock speeds and power consumption profiles. There are at least two and maybe 3 different 1 GHz A8 processors, including the Apple A4. Saying that the chip is a Cortex A8 processor does not preclude it's being the A4 or any other faster, more battery efficient A8-based chip.

Well, I would’ve never thought A4 was part of the A8 family.
 
... 512mb of ram... would be cool, but I don't see that happening, even the iPad does not have 512mb of ram.
 
Of course! It's an A8 cut in half! Kind of like Intel does the Celeron...right?!

:p

I really hope you're joking. The A4 is a specially designed A8 chip that runs circles around all the other A8's out there so it doesn't get half the speed it gets almost 3 times.
 
And I'll be first in line although, I don't see a 512GB module being used.

Jobs told us how this fills the void between a smart phone and a notebook. Would be really ****ed up if apps wouldn't run on the iPad becasue of insufficient RAM.

I really can't believe that this new iPhone will have TWICE the Ram of the iPad. Absurd.. iPad still has to hit international markets (I'm italian), and this way it's like Apple is already selling an old model.. I'm so upset.

And in october the iPad will have OS4 + Multistasking.. I can't believe it. A phone will have more ram than a device that stands between phones and laptops.
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I really can't believe that this new iPhone will have TWICE the Ram of the iPad. Absurd.. iPad still has to hit international markets (I'm italian), and this way it's like Apple is already selling an old model.. I'm so upset.

And in october the iPad will have OS4 + Multistasking.. I can't believe it. A phone will have more ram than a device that stands between phones and laptops.
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I have yet to see anybody complain about the speed of the iPad currently so why do you care? The iPhone could have a 9Ghz processor in it but it doesn't matter because it doesn't need it.
 
I really can't believe that this new iPhone will have TWICE the Ram of the iPad. Absurd.. iPad still has to hit international markets (I'm italian), and this way it's like Apple is already selling an old model.. I'm so upset.

And in october the iPad will have OS4 + Multistasking.. I can't believe it. A phone will have more ram than a device that stands between phones and laptops.
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This is the problem with including numbers in your marketing. Most consumers don't know how to interpret them in real life use. Why in the world would you be mad if the iPhone has more RAM than the iPad? Does it make the iPad perform any less than what it's already proven it can do? No. There is going to be a lot of Social integration and other background processes that are going to be available for the iPhone because of the nature of smart phones than will be on the iPad. These things are going to require a lot more memory than just normal 'multi tasking'. Also the current iPad doesn't record and edit 720P video... the new iPhone will, that alone will require the extra memory...
 
Not that I am not happy about the new 4G iPhone but come on... only 256 in the iPad. Disappointing :rolleyes:


In addressing the brains behind the forthcoming iPhone, the report claims that users can expect an ARM Cortex A8 processor, of which the Apple A4 processor used in the iPad and observed in one of the prototypes is an implementation. The report claims, however, that it will also offer 512 MB of RAM.

The iPhone 4G will run on the Arm Cortex A8 processor and a 512MB memory module from Samsung Electronics, doubling the memory capacity seen in the iPhone 3GS to take advantage of the multi-tasking capability of the iPhone 4.0 platform, Kuo revealed.
This information conflicts with evidence from the prototype that recently surfaced in Vietnam, which carries only 256 MB of RAM, the same as in both the iPad and the iPhone 3GS.

Apple is widely expected to introduce the new iPhone on June 7th at its annual


Who knows, could only be 256.

https://www.macrumors.com/2010/05/1...splay-improvements-in-next-generation-iphone/

My whole point is that if it were true it would be utterly ridiculous that the iPhone 4G has twice as much ram as the iPad.

Would you find it disappointing if the iPhone had twice as much ram as the iPad?
 
I was hoping to see the first dual core implementation from this new iPhone, considering the new Cortex A9-dual core processors have begun production.
 
I'm with many others in this thread. I really don't see apple putting in more ram in the iphone than they put in the ipad.
 
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