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1080p camera that acts like a 720p camera, if the web cam was iPhone quality then yes I agree but no its really not great that's why now we can use out phones for a better web cam, so that argument doesn't work 1080p means nothing, my m1 max web cam is soft
The iPhone camera is too thick, you're not getting it or Face ID without doubling the lid's thickness.
 
exactly so they dont need to put a notch on MacBook when they can put the camera in the bezel, the whole 1080p thing doesn't matter because the camera isn't great, its ugly to have a cut out on your display
It' an irrelevant discussion at this point because the notch is part of Apple's design language now. It's possible the notch will decrease in size or maybe the rumored iPhone 14 hole punch will replace it in a few years.

You can always use apple like Lunar Pro to move the menubar below the notch mimicking the 13" MBP's screen.
 
Enough (!!!) about the notch! There are three sets of viewpoints regarding the notch. 1) Hate it; 2) Think it's a good idea in terms of accommodating the hardware and providing screen real estate; 3) Don't really care - just ignore it. Regardless of which camp in which you reside, it is what it is. Move on!
 
Why they even offer a 256GB SSD and also a 512GB SSD in any computer let alone the M1 and M2 MBA makes no sense to me?

What year is this? 2010?

Smallest size SSD should be no smaller than 1TB.
Thankfully, Apple has major data that shows most people don't need that much space because they
browse the internet
go on facebook
watch netflix

Ya know, basic crap.

I'm rolling on a 256GB M1 Mini and its perfectly fine.

Id' rather see a $1,199 option over a $1,499 because you feel 256GB is to small (it's not)
 
The iJustine and Notch hate in here is nuts. iJustine has been around forever and provides entertaining reviews of Apple products. Yes, they are very positive. If you don't want to watch her, then don't. The notch is barely noticeable at all and I like that my 14inch M1 MBP has the same footprint as a 13inch. The thin bezels do enhance the experience of using this laptop.

the notch is disruptive and looks like crap. it ruins the menubar, as well as the aesthetics of the display.

for those of you who don't take advantage of the menubar area, you can at least hide the notch by setting the menubar to a dark color. but for some of us who use a lot of menulets, status indicators, etc. up in the menubar, the notch is an unavoidable nuisance which gets in the way (and again, just looks terrible).

in addition, the notch fixes the menubar height to the same size no matter what (it used to be proportional depending on your screen resolution). as a result, the menubar now looks oversized, especially when running at higher screen resolutions (I run my 13" MBP at the panel's native 2560x1600, so a large menubar would just look ridiculous).

having bezels was never an issue before, and introducing a hideous notch certainly wasn't worth all of the problems it's created. for a company which prides themselves on how beautiful their products are, it's surprising they've decided to blemish the display areas of several of their products with stupid notches. at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they added notches to their iPads, iMac, & Apple Watch as well, just to be consistent with their "iconic design"... 🙄
 
Thankfully, Apple has major data that shows most people don't need that much space because they
browse the internet
go on facebook
watch netflix

Ya know, basic crap.

I'm rolling on a 256GB M1 Mini and its perfectly fine.

Id' rather see a $1,199 option over a $1,499 because you feel 256GB is to small (it's not)
I went with a 2TB because I keep a full-size copy of my photo library local, yes I use iCloud Photo Library but I'm not going to 100% trust not having a local copy.

I would never, ever recommend to any user to get below 512.
 
The notch needs to go.
There’s more than plenty enough space to fit the camera on the borders.

This is simply not true:


Xray of the notch:
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I don't understand the iJustine hate. I think too many are approaching her reviews from the wrong angle. She's not someone who does benchmarks and testing, she shows you what a real world person (especially those editing video) would encounter while using the products and I personally find that valuable.

All though in-depth reviews are important and have their place, benchmarks are deceptive when it comes to real world use. It's nice to see a reviewer show what people using the devices are likely to experience.

I'm not saying use her reviews as the only review, but I think she cornered a segment of the tech reviewer market that is important to a lot of people.
 
I was agreeing with you.
They need to be upfront at the beginning on whether they are given these products or buy them outright. Not enough do. Apple has a pretty cheap PR group regardless
People like Justine don't buy the units that are shown in videos until after the fact, if they do at all. They have to return the units to Apple and then purchase like the rest of us.
 
Wow... People want edge to edge screens... No bezels. See it written all the time... Apples response is a small notch. Now the same people want bezels back. Damned if you do damned if you don't.
Don't generalize pls. I'm an anti-bezel and pro-notch guy.
 
I went with a 2TB because I keep a full-size copy of my photo library local, yes I use iCloud Photo Library but I'm not going to 100% trust not having a local copy.

I would never, ever recommend to any user to get below 512.
Cool. It's not like you can't get 5TB externally for $100 and not even have that attached physically to your 2TB laptop in case its stolen....
 
Why they even offer a 256GB SSD and also a 512GB SSD in any computer let alone the M1 and M2 MBA makes no sense to me?

What year is this? 2010?

Smallest size SSD should be no smaller than 1TB.
Every day we see stupid users in this forum complaining about options that are there for other people with more modest needs. In my view, Apple has attracted a horde of idiots in the last years, probably from the Wintel world, that simply cannot accept different products for different users.
 
A couple things I’d like to summarise a bit.
1. Notch. Anyone can mentally ignore it after a while if you try long enough. Doesn’t deduct the fact it’s not there and literally cut menubar in half. We don’t know how temporary that notch will be, but I feel it will stay just like Touch Bar, for a few years before someone in Apple can find a better way to do front facing camera. Or, use that new feature in Ventura and eliminate front facing camera and just tell user to use their iPhone.

2. “Intended use”. Remember, the end user, many of whom might never visit this forum, let alone posting anything, will probably NOT use MacBook Air the “intended way”. Why? We can blame ads, words of mouth, their social media feed or whatever. But end user almost always can find a way to “incorrectly use the product”. And thermal issue will pop up. And notch will become annoying. So on and so forth. Yes, we are educated to not use the machine for heavy workload, but that’s not all.

3. iJustine. Good to see hate messages got removed. Personally, I despise fanboy fangirl because that attitude severely cloud their judgement when discussing certain issues regarding said brand. It’s called biased. Benchmark is boring, but that’s pretty much the closest scientific way we have to objectively assess machine performance. iJustine choose not to do that. It’s fair. But it’s also sad that her workflow fills that very specific niche: audio and video editing. So the review value for people who are not doing those work drops. Granted, she can’t fill all niche, and that’s why I personally favour Hardware Unboxed review, that tests a wide range of scenarios and even do cross platform as well.
 
People like Justine don't buy the units that are shown in videos until after the fact, if they do at all. They have to return the units to Apple and then purchase like the rest of us.
well yeah all the people who get review units also buy their own.
 
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