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The MBP brand has been tarnished.
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LMAO the op sound like a little spoil kid, he doesnt want everybody to have a macbook pro expext him and steve jobs 
Lack of dedicated gpu on 13" and base 15" is a bit of a joke at the "Pro" level. Combine that with deleting the expresscard slot and replacing it with an SD port on the 15" is pretty silly.
The 17" is the only "Pro" model left...and over the past couple years it's gone somewhat "Semi-pro" IMO.
The 17" is the only "Pro" model left...and over the past couple years it's gone somewhat "Semi-pro" IMO.
I'm still trying to figure out how rebranding the Aluminum Macbooks as Macbook Pros affects the OP's use of his Macbook Pro? It's a name for christ sake.
It's what's inside that matters, not the stupid name.
Going back to the car analogy. If BMW rebranded the 3 series as a 5 series model, would that affect the use of your "true" 5 series? If they changed none of the features of either car, except the name, the functionality certainly doesn't change.
If you feel like the line is "cheapened," then that is your problem.
It's what's inside that matters, not the stupid name.
Going back to the car analogy. If BMW rebranded the 3 series as a 5 series model, would that affect the use of your "true" 5 series? If they changed none of the features of either car, except the name, the functionality certainly doesn't change.
If you feel like the line is "cheapened," then that is your problem.
Wow.....
You know your a tool bag if you think that having a MBP makes you better than everyone else.........
You know your a tool bag if you think driving a BMW makes you a better than everyone else........
I myself use a MBP and drive a Audi so I'm not hating on nice things, but I don't consider myself better than someone who uses a PC and drives a Civic.....
You really should get over yourself......
You know your a tool bag if you think that having a MBP makes you better than everyone else.........
You know your a tool bag if you think driving a BMW makes you a better than everyone else........
I myself use a MBP and drive a Audi so I'm not hating on nice things, but I don't consider myself better than someone who uses a PC and drives a Civic.....
You really should get over yourself......
Other than the badge of honor that comes from owning a Pro (for those dicks who buy it as such), the line between the MB and the MBP is gone; essentially Apple no longer sells a professional laptop, just variations of the MacBook.
Gizmodo has a decent post about it as well, although some of their reasonings are a bit misguided. when-pro-doesnt-mean-pro-anymore.
Gizmodo has a decent post about it as well, although some of their reasonings are a bit misguided. when-pro-doesnt-mean-pro-anymore.
When has it ever been a legitimate label in retail instead of just a distinguishing title?
Labels labels labels, im 17 and know they mean nothing, how old are some of you complainers here?
I kind of agree with the OP.
9400 is brilliant for what it is. But a MBP without discrete graphics just doesn't feel right to me. and I don't consider 1280x800 worthy of a Pro label either.
It was a good business decision for them though, they will definitely sell a lot more computers with this line up than the previous.
9400 is brilliant for what it is. But a MBP without discrete graphics just doesn't feel right to me. and I don't consider 1280x800 worthy of a Pro label either.
It was a good business decision for them though, they will definitely sell a lot more computers with this line up than the previous.
But to be used in "such manner" it need the ports and graphic card to support "pro" use.
That is not the case anylonger.
I don´t care what they call it, I buy the tool I need.
When the Unibody came out, I had been waiting to get a new MBP, but it didn´t suit my needs, so I bought the previous model to get what I wanted (2 FW ports and matte screen)
I would appreciate if they stopped stripping the MBP for usefull items
Yes, i think that the best industry standard should be available(as an option, of course!): in particular, a matte color-accurate high-res screen(look at Lenovo). One of the reasons - it takes much longer for the eyes to get tired with a good screen. I do some LaTeX formatting for my papers, so high-res would help to keep few windows open at the same time.
Moreover, some people argee to pay extra for knowing that they get a flawless product - which is checked thoroughly before putting in the box.
To make the long story short, consumer-oriented strategy does not mean you can not make profit in the premium segment.
Stop being a snob and elitist. It is great that more people can afford mac and apple computer since more people could experience how great it is also it would mean cheaper computer for the rest of us. Also a computer is just a tool and if you are really a pro then you would have a power desktop already and not only work using a notebook computer.
notebook computer has too much compromise to really do real pros stuff anyways.
notebook computer has too much compromise to really do real pros stuff anyways.
I really have no problem with the 13" being called a MBP. What I have a problem with is that the 13" is nothing like a MBP. It has a horrible display/resolution and no dedicated video card (the 9600 really). If they made the entire MBP line with the 13" having 1400x990 with 9600/9400 and the 15" with 1680x1050/1920x1200 would be great. So basically, make the MBP line "Pro"
Only beef i have with it is in regards for the newbies and newcoming mac users and how the mac series is sorta a hodgepodge of branding/versioning/naming. If i was new to mac, I'd have no idea whats going on in the 13'' range without doing some research (what kind of american does research when buying?!).
Reminds me of the nvidia period when they had the 8800 series g92 g80 mixed in with the gtx gs gts and 9800 series with all just a mesh of info and delineations that needed research to weed out... well its not that bad..
Reminds me of the nvidia period when they had the 8800 series g92 g80 mixed in with the gtx gs gts and 9800 series with all just a mesh of info and delineations that needed research to weed out... well its not that bad..
What's horrible about the display..? Resolution isn't the best I agree, but the display is fantastic.
Well the 15" MBP doesn't have discrete graphics in its base model either.
Apple has really dumbed down the meaning of 'Pro' over the last few years, but I don't really see the big deal. If you feel the need to show others that you paid a premium over them, then go with the 17" MBP. You can finally be one of the cool kids with the BMW 7 series AND a 17" MBP! Having a 17" MBP, regardless of whether you use the specs or not, automatically makes you better than the person who shelled out $1200 on a 13" MBP
I don't really understand why the OP wants to have the 13" MBP users to be inferior. Apple has built a uniform lineup with a stunning aesthetic design, and they differentiate by the specs. The specs. The specs are why we use and buy our computers, not because they look good. Sure, Mac's look f^cking awesome, but I wouldn't pay an extra $500 to jump to the 'Pro' solely because of its aesthetics.