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The MBP brand has been tarnished.

This thread has got to be one of the most pathetic I've seen in a while. People don't like the change because it's letting all the 13" rabble in or it doesn't have features they consider pro? Geez! :rolleyes:

Any new MBP is more "pro" than machines from a few years ago. They all have better displays, faster, more storage, etc... This is all ridiculous. I've been using Macs since 1986 and I would never have thought to consider any of these machines as not "pro".

As Shatner would have said, grow up people! Get out of your parents basements and try to use the capabilities of these machines rather than complaining about it!
 
bcaslis said:
This thread has got to be one of the most pathetic I've seen in a while. People don't like the change because it's letting all the 13" rabble in or it doesn't have features they consider pro? Geez! :rolleyes:

Any new MBP is more "pro" than machines from a few years ago. They all have better displays, faster, more storage, etc... This is all ridiculous. I've been using Macs since 1986 and I would never have thought to consider any of these machines as not "pro".

As Shatner would have said, grow up people! Get out of your parents basements and try to use the capabilities of these machines rather than complaining about it!
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I concur. Even PC used to cost more than $10,000 back in the old days. Recent move by Apple reflects how computer has assimilated into people's lives leading to focus on practicality and functionality. Just like automobiles assimilated...
 
I'm amazed at the point everyone is jumping on this post and the original poster. I assume the white macbook will be phased out at which point the macbook pro will be the only macbook. I assume this because of the push for environmentally friendly manufacturing. and polycarb? that's not very green of apple these days. and if this is the case it is incredibly silly add the pro on to the macbook line. if they did anything I think should have been to eliminate the macbook "pro" moniker. What makes the macbook pro if there isn't a macbook regular.

I can see how someone would be annoyed. Sure you could argue the word "pro" is irrelevant because they are all just notebooks in the end but what's wrong with having a professional line.

I think making everything a pro is the lamest thing I've seen apple do in a long time. it's like they are saying: dear consumers, you guys are idiots and will be so excited to see pro on all our notebooks that you won't ask where the non pro options are....
 
The OP's post explains exactly why people say Mac users are smug and pretentious. Maybe he forgot about the 12" Powerbook. It wasn't expensive and it wasn't full featured and it wasn't designed for the rich and smug. :p
 
173080 said:
While watching the WWDC keynote I began to remember the good days of the PowerBook. Owning a computer from Apple's pro lineup meant you had shelled out a decent amount of cash, and you were getting the best of the best in terms of industrial design along with the exclusivity.

I remember paying $3,100 for my PowerBook G4, and there was an incredibly clear difference between my $3,100 PBG4 and a $1400 iBook. The materials and build quality were completely different, as they should be. It was truly a special machine, and it showed.

And then comes the unibody Macbook. Apple gives their entry level customers access to the nice metal casing we've had for some eight years but at a much lower price point, and so the blending of the Macbook and Macbook Pro lines begins.

Yesterday Apple gave the final blow to the Macbook Pro brand and ruined it by adding the "13'' Macbook Pro" starting at a measly $1200. They bring the Macbook and Macbook Pro lines together by crippling the Macbook Pro enough to be somewhat like a Macbook. Now, why is a $1200 computer allowed to carry the name of what once used to be the 7-Series of computing? An atrocious democratization of the Macbook Pro!

What is Pro about the MBP anymore? There is no matte screen option. The screen bezel is huge. No ExpressCard slot. The classic keyboard had better tactile feedback. The 13" and base 15" can't run CUDA. An SD card slot is for consumers with P&S cameras. No built-in eSATA. The video adapters and remote are not included (a matter of convenience, even if it means a higher price).

And so the Macbook Pro brand has been tarnished. It is no longer a special badge worn only by the few - it has lost its essence.
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huh? :rolleyes: you considered owning a computer a badge of status? wow. seriously. wow. dude, its a computer. i agree that 3K ain't chump change but, come on man, 3K for something that get obsolete in a few months is hardly a badge of status. seriously, i couldn't help but snicker and think,"damn, this person for real?" i guess you are though.

then again....3k for a laptop is a helluva lot of tacos. kudos to you though for fueling the fire that feeds every stereotype thrown at macusers.
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Is this guy for real? Get off your high horse man. "Measly 1200 dollars?" I'm not even going to respond to that.

This thread is ridiculous. Better put on your flame suit, Mr. Exclusivity. :rolleyes:
 
Gimme a break, pro has been a diluted term for quite some time IMO.

Plus, OpenCL is still available on the 9400M
 
If anyone is going to cannibalize the name, at least it was Apple who did it.
 
Sorry to break this to you. But there is nothing pro about all apple macbooks. There are plenty of high end 15" pc laptops in the market with nVidia GTX 260 1GB dedicated memory and 2.80 GHz CPU, and those with "lower" specs have 9800 nvidia chipset, some of those laptops has upgradable CPU/GPU. I bought my 13.3 MBP because of portability, screen, battery,design and the OS.Wouldn't even consider the 15" or 17" MBP because if I know if you want real "pro" laptop I have to buy PC laptop.
 
The market trend is towards affordable computers, and Apple is giving potential customers all the options they can. They now offer strong choices in all segments except of netbooks.
 
When i think pro, i think of a MacPro with multiple graphics cards TBs of storage and 3 huge montiors. Not a laptop. There is only so much you can do with a laptop. For pros on here that say they do "pro" work, if its all done on a mbp then I highly doubt your pro status;)
 
maennj said:
Sorry to break this to you. But there is nothing pro about all apple macbooks. There are plenty of high end 15" pc laptops in the market with nVidia GTX 260 1GB dedicated memory and 2.80 GHz CPU, and those with "lower" specs have 9800 nvidia chipset, some of those laptops has upgradable CPU/GPU. I bought my 13.3 MBP because of portability, screen, battery,design and the OS.Wouldn't even consider the 15" or 17" MBP because if I know if you want real "pro" laptop I have to buy PC laptop.
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Sad but true, if these only ran windows, nobody would touch these. I vote the name be rightfully changed to MediocreBook Pro:cool:
 
kaldezar said:
Well I think it's great that elitist snobs like yourself are getting their just desserts. The proletariat are just getting better machines at lower prices. :rolleyes:
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Vive la France!

@ OP and those with a similar opinion: I don't see what all the fuss is about. Phil did say that only a small number of people use the Express card slot should it hang on for those few that need it? The 13 inch got the firewire that everyone was complaining about, they dropped the prices, and the MBPs are still better than almost any comparable computer out there. It's never going to be perfect for you or most everyone out there and nothing is quite the same as the good old days. If you're so hung up about it go buy a Mercedes and vote Republican.
 
mikes70mustang said:
When i think pro, i think of a MacPro with multiple graphics cards TBs of storage and 3 huge montiors. Not a laptop. There is only so much you can do with a laptop. For pros on here that say they do "pro" work, if its all done on a mbp then I highly doubt your pro status;)
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Believe it or not, some people do make money by providing services or being part of activities that require working out in the real world, far away from their office and desk, which might sometimes require being in locations far away from a convenient 120v power outlet.
 
localoid said:
Believe it or not, some people do make money by providing services or being part of activities that require working out in the real world, far away from their office and desk, which might also include locations far away from a convenient 120v power outlet.
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Im saying that if that is all they use ever and have no powerful base station then the quality and productivity is not going to be near the quality that people to believe as professional.
 
mikes70mustang said:
Im saying that if that is all they use ever and have no powerful base station then the quality and productivity is not going to be near the quality that people to believe as professional.
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You obviously have no knowledge of journalism or of audio, photographic, or film production work then, to cite just one general area of "field work" that typically requires a portable computing solution.
 
Who cares dude, it's just a name. Nothing's been tarnished, just re-branded in a more organized fashion that makes sense. If anything it will help sales a bit.

I have a feeling that the 13" MBP will eventually get a higher resolution display and a discrete graphics card to bring it more in line with the "Pro" line-up.
 
localoid said:
You obviously have no knowledge of journalism or of audio, photographic, or film production work then, to cite just one general area of "field work" that typically requires a portable computing solution.
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Thanks for telling me what I do and dont know. Some chump doesnt record, edit, mix, and produce superior quality on one macbook pro. And if he or she does, its not very good. Im sure ive seen stuff that has been, but its not as quality. As many photo editors have posted. Their not very serious about their work if all the photo edit is done on a 15 or 17 in screen of a mbp. You basically need a good monitor for that. Your soooo not doing it on a 15 umbp, the photo review sites label those glass screens as unpassable or whatever they call it.
 
Lets get this in perspective...
You're complaining because apple is giving us a higher quality product at a lower price and renaming the product by adding a 3 letter word on the end of the existing name.....

Exactly when does this thread become worth reading:confused:

FreedomFighter
 
mikes70mustang said:
Thanks for telling me what I do and dont know. Some chump doesnt record, edit, mix, and produce superior quality on one macbook pro. And if he or she does, its not very good. Im sure ive seen stuff that has been, but its not as quality. As many photo editors have posted. Their not very serious about their work if all the photo edit is done on a 15 or 17 in screen of a mbp. You basically need a good monitor for that. Your soooo not doing it on a 15 umbp, the photo review sites label those glass screens as unpassable or whatever they call it.
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Watch your evening news and pay attention to how much of what you see was filmed in the station's studio. If you see a "breaking news" that is taking place 100s of miles from the studio, ask yourself how the film was edited that was just shot minutes before. Buy a newspaper and read an article and view photographs from a story that happened just a few hours ago in a location far away from the newspaper's office, perhaps in a war zone. Take in a movie and ask yourself if that sound of the hawk you heard during the mountaintop scene actually was recorded by bringing a hawk into a recording studio.
 
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