The Merged Hackintosh Thread

[maccompaq]

I have been running a P45-DS3L (which is VERY similar to a DS4P), for a while now, completely vanilla/EFI, and it works 100%. The only thing would be after waking from sleep the Ethernet has to be restarted. I haven't found a fix for it. The restart/shutdown was completely solved with the Psystar kexts, and I know they also have an ethernet fix, though I haven't successfully tried it.
I have built about 15 osx86 boxes from 945 to P45 all retail, now I have an x58 setup on the way. Yay for Nehalem!Jon

Jon, my current Hackintosh runs on Kalyway 10.5.2, and I am satisfied to continue it without upgrading.
I am pretty sure that I want to build a GA-EP45-DS3L. Would you recommend the PC2 8500 or the PC2 6400 RAM? How well would iDeneb 10.5.5 work on this mobo and what difficulties might I encounter? Or would I be better served with Kalyway?

 

[NoSmokingBandit]

Did you install Kalyway or iDeneb? Did sound & LAN work easily?
I am considering the GA-EP45-DS3L so I am wondering how much different the Install would be from yours.

I have Kalyway 10.5.2 & iDenebe 10.5.5 DVDs and am wondering which would work best.

iAtkos actually. iAtkos is really close to a vanilla disc and its the only one i could get sleep working with. Idk about the p45 chipset, but i assume it cant be much different. On my mobo the lan worked ootb and sound took a kext replacement, but it was all very very easy. I use nvKush for the video card and everything else just worked right away.

 

[maccompaq]

GA-P45-DS3R I have it works great pretty much everything but the sound works out of the box as they say. There are only cosmetic patches needed for everything else aside from video cards obviously.

Are you using PC2 8500 (DDR2 1066) or PC2 6400 (DDR2 800) RAM? Would you choose Latency of 4, 5, 6, or 7?

 

[MacUser2525]

Are you using PC2 8500 (DDR2 1066) or PC2 6400 (DDR2 800) RAM? Would you choose Latency of 4, 5, 6, or 7?

I am running 8gb of 800mhz Patriot ram I have it running at 700mhz 4-4-4-12. I have it running at this for my overclock (9x350) with my Q6600, it is rated at 5-5-5-12 when running it at the 800mhz. I not a great believer in the higher mhz ram as I think most people are not going to get their FSB much past 400mhz when overclocking as you really want to run it at 1:1 for best performance. So you want the lowest latency ram you can get running without error at your highest desired FSB to give you the best speed possible.

 

[blairbeckwith]

Hey guys;

Here's my situation: I just got an MSI Wind yesterday. I installed Leopard, and during partitioning, I partitioned my hard drive like this: ~90 GB for Leopard, and a separate ~20 GB partition to be used later to install Windows XP. Today, I installed Windows XP flawlessly, except that I had to delete and reformat the 20 GB partition. I formatted it using NTFS.

Anyways, all this is great... Except that now when I boot, it automatically boots to Windows, with no option to boot to Leopard? I can choose boot option, but the only option besides other devices is "Hard Drive". Any ideas?

 

[illegallydead]

Hey guys;

Here's my situation: I just got an MSI Wind yesterday. I installed Leopard, and during partitioning, I partitioned my hard drive like this: ~90 GB for Leopard, and a separate ~20 GB partition to be used later to install Windows XP. Today, I installed Windows XP flawlessly, except that I had to delete and reformat the 20 GB partition. I formatted it using NTFS.

Anyways, all this is great... Except that now when I boot, it automatically boots to Windows, with no option to boot to Leopard? I can choose boot option, but the only option besides other devices is "Hard Drive". Any ideas?

I'm no expert, but that "Hard Drive" option may be the Leopard Partition. Windows / BIOS does not play nice at all with HFS+, usually just all together denying its existence. Give that option a try, I guess. Best to wait for someone with a bit more hackintosh experience, though

 

[nomar383]

Hey guys;

Here's my situation: I just got an MSI Wind yesterday. I installed Leopard, and during partitioning, I partitioned my hard drive like this: ~90 GB for Leopard, and a separate ~20 GB partition to be used later to install Windows XP. Today, I installed Windows XP flawlessly, except that I had to delete and reformat the 20 GB partition. I formatted it using NTFS.

Anyways, all this is great... Except that now when I boot, it automatically boots to Windows, with no option to boot to Leopard? I can choose boot option, but the only option besides other devices is "Hard Drive". Any ideas?

You need a "bootloader" of some kind. I have a full install of linux, just so I can use the GRUB bootloader

 

[MacUser2525]

Hey guys;

Here's my situation: I just got an MSI Wind yesterday. I installed Leopard, and during partitioning, I partitioned my hard drive like this: ~90 GB for Leopard, and a separate ~20 GB partition to be used later to install Windows XP. Today, I installed Windows XP flawlessly, except that I had to delete and reformat the 20 GB partition. I formatted it using NTFS.

Anyways, all this is great... Except that now when I boot, it automatically boots to Windows, with no option to boot to Leopard? I can choose boot option, but the only option besides other devices is "Hard Drive". Any ideas?

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=52954

You probably want the second method..

 

[Totti]

Further to my last benchmarking of 153, i OC'd my Q6600 from what was being detected as 2.13ghz to 3.04 ghz easily thanks to my Mobo. Xbenched again and got 190.43

Temps are between 50-60, and that's idle i haven't really pushed it yet. Is that dangerous?

 

[NoSmokingBandit]

Hey guys;

Here's my situation: I just got an MSI Wind yesterday. I installed Leopard, and during partitioning, I partitioned my hard drive like this: ~90 GB for Leopard, and a separate ~20 GB partition to be used later to install Windows XP. Today, I installed Windows XP flawlessly, except that I had to delete and reformat the 20 GB partition. I formatted it using NTFS.

Anyways, all this is great... Except that now when I boot, it automatically boots to Windows, with no option to boot to Leopard? I can choose boot option, but the only option besides other devices is "Hard Drive". Any ideas?

Use the Chain0 method, its very easy, you can also set it to boot Leo by default after a few seconds so its really handy, tweaking apple's bootloader is a bit more of a pain. Your windows parition is already active, so theres no need to go through those steps, just start at the part where he talks about the chain0 file.

Further to my last benchmarking of 153, i OC'd my Q6600 from what was being detected as 2.13ghz to 3.04 ghz easily thanks to my Mobo. Xbenched again and got 190.43

Temps are between 50-60, and that's idle i haven't really pushed it yet. Is that dangerous?

idk about quads, but my core2duo has yet to go over 45 even after playing crysis for a while. Imo, its not worth sacrificing cpu life to gain a bit of speed.

 

[richard.mac]

i think ive found my perfect Hackintosh setup WOO researching is fun! just need to gather the funds now which will take a while. but i will definitely post some pics and tell you guys how it performs.

Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R
Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz 45nm
Zalman CNPS9700 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler
MSI 9800GT 512MB OC
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800MHz
Antec Solo Case
Corsair 520HX 520W Power Supply
Western Digital VelociRaptor 300GB
Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB
ASUS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA
StarTech 2 Port FireWire 800 + 1 Port FireWire 400 PCI Express Card
nMEDIAPC ZE-C68 All-in-one USB 2.0 Card Reader
D-Link DBT-120 USB 2.0 Wireless USB Bluetooth Adapter
Noctua NF-S12-1200

Total: $1354

 

[sneezymarble]

Further to my last benchmarking of 153, i OC'd my Q6600 from what was being detected as 2.13ghz to 3.04 ghz easily thanks to my Mobo. Xbenched again and got 190.43

Temps are between 50-60, and that's idle i haven't really pushed it yet. Is that dangerous?

You should be 'Ok.' It sort of depends on the Q6600 you have. If you have a G0 stepping you'll be able to tolerate a little more heat. In any event you're getting sort of close to a "no no" zone. You don't want your temps much hotter than 72C under load. Maybe I'm wrong on all this, but I've been working under these assumptions which I'm sure I researched at some time or another.

It never hurts to invest in some good cooling. I'm just assuming you're using the stock cooling. Maybe you aren't. But a decent air cooling system should keep a Q6600 well below 50C when idling. For comparison, at 3.73GHz, the hottest core of my Q6600 is at 42C. At 3.0GHz the hottest core is about 10C less than that. I'm using a Thermaltake Ultra 120 Extreme with a 120mm Scythe fan. I couldn't recommend that system more. The total cost was about $80 after the discounts I got from Newegg at the time.

 

[Totti]

Yeah that's a pretty decent cooling setup hehe! I'm not sure which model I have, is there a way to tell with OSX? I'll keep my eye on temps (Atm core's one and two are at 62, but that's because i've got house heating up to max lol)

The other good thing is my case, an Gigabyte 3D Aurora 570. Lots of space, and support for liquid cooling to boot.

 

[sneezymarble]

Yeah that's a pretty decent cooling setup hehe! I'm not sure which model I have, is there a way to tell with OSX? I'll keep my eye on temps (Atm core's one and two are at 62, but that's because i've got house heating up to max lol)

The other good thing is my case, an Gigabyte 3D Aurora 570. Lots of space, and support for liquid cooling to boot.

I'm pretty sure the TemperatureMonitor app has an info window that shows you detailed information about your CPU. I'm in Vista right now (playing a little Crysis ) so I can't check that at the moment. Look for the revision. Hopefully it says "G0".

If they're at 62C idle then you might wanna back off a bit. It's unlikely your chip will get ruined immediately but running it at that temp constantly might not be the best thing. It's alost certainly going to go above 72C on load if it's idling at 62C. Maybe you should see if you can reduce the voltage a bit while maintaining stability. That might lower the temps a little.

 

[dukebound85]

iAtkos actually. iAtkos is really close to a vanilla disc and its the only one i could get sleep working with. Idk about the p45 chipset, but i assume it cant be much different. On my mobo the lan worked ootb and sound took a kext replacement, but it was all very very easy. I use nvKush for the video card and everything else just worked right away.

i dont understand why all of you are using these hacked distros when you can use boot-132 and install from a retail leopard disc

 

[NoSmokingBandit]

I had this installed before i even heard of Boot-123 (and im still not 100% sure what it is) and full Leo discs are too big for my liking. iAtkos has a ton of stuff removed like languages and the 3 gigs of printer drivers.

 

[dukebound85]

I had this installed before i even heard of Boot-123 (and im still not 100% sure what it is) and full Leo discs are too big for my liking. iAtkos has a ton of stuff removed like languages and the 3 gigs of printer drivers.

to be fair, you can deselct all the stuff when you install leopard lol. i for one like having an os that hasnt been "hacked" before hand if you know what i mean

pretty much boot-132 requires a drivers cd that you put in while booting up that contains all the necessary kexts and the like. what this means is that you can update leopard without waiting to the osx86 community to provide patches. for instance, once 10.5.6 comes out, i can update with peace of mind whereas when i used kalyway, i had to be cautious as you may f up the system (as i know all too well lol)

 

[DoFoT9]

1. I'd take a Mac Pro too if somebody was giving one away. But the fact that I'm perfectly capable of building a system that performs better for ~$1000 less than a less equipped machine is reason enough for me not to buy Mac Pros.

2. Well, some might say stability. But the same processor I used in those benchmarks has been running at 3.6GHz on air cooling for nearly a year now. The past month it's been running at 3.7GHz. That's a full 1.3GHz faster than the rated speed and it's on air cooling.

1. a macpro would be nice....however i must say that your hackintosh would never be near the build quality/looks quality nor stability quality of a pure mac. yes it may look good for a PC, you can make it look pretty with an expensive case and fans and whatnot, but a macpro it will not look like (unless you put it into a macpro, which would look nice). *dreams*

2. by running that CPU at a pretty high clock rate you will probably knock off what.. 1-2 years of its total life span. especially on air and if it is running hot. a hackintosh will never be near the stability of a real mac.. my hackintosh crashes quite regularly, i cannot burn mp3 itunes discs etc and the list goes on. a bunch of people interested in hacking their PC will NEVER be as good as a company that invests millions and millions into the development of their hardware and software running as one.

@DoFot9
Point 2 is funny to talk about because for the past 15 years apple didnt have an OS worth making a fuss over. Imo, Tiger is the first usable OS apple has released and Leo is darn near perfect at this point in time. Also, back in the ppc days it would be impossible for my intel P3 cpu to run mac os code. The only limitations tying osx to macs today are all synthetic.

i dont even know why i am replying to you, you seem a bit naive judging by your reply.. how long have you actually used apple's OS's for?? i have used them since the Finder versions were around. mac os 8 was brilliant, sure it didnt support multitasking but who cares? mac os 9 was extremely pretty, it was amazing, and like jaguar, tiger, leopard and the rest of the X series it integrated perfectly with the programs. like tiger/leopard i never had to think about what i was doing because the GUI was snappy, responsive and easy to use. unlike windows, which is slow, hard to navigate and pathetic, any mac os IMHO would flogg the hell out of any other OS.

iAtkos actually. iAtkos is really close to a vanilla disc and its the only one i could get sleep working with. Idk about the p45 chipset, but i assume it cant be much different. On my mobo the lan worked ootb and sound took a kext replacement, but it was all very very easy. I use nvKush for the video card and everything else just worked right away.

mmmmnn. i also prefer iAtkos, after fixing the initial install problems my PC is running quite well, apart from niggling errors that lie around. you learn to work around them.

i think ive found my perfect Hackintosh setup WOO researching is fun! just need to gather the funds now which will take a while. but i will definitely post some pics and tell you guys how it performs.

Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R
Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz 45nm
Zalman CNPS9700 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler
MSI 9800GT 512MB OC
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800MHz
Antec Solo Case
Corsair 520HX 520W Power Supply
Western Digital VelociRaptor 300GB
Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB
ASUS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA
StarTech 2 Port FireWire 800 + 1 Port FireWire 400 PCI Express Card
nMEDIAPC ZE-C68 All-in-one USB 2.0 Card Reader
D-Link DBT-120 USB 2.0 Wireless USB Bluetooth Adapter
Noctua NF-S12-1200

Total: $1354

lovely setup... are you sure you wanna wreck it by using ONLY 800mhz RAM??

p.s. are them aussie prices or us?

 

[dukebound85]

i dont even know why i am replying to you, you seem a bit naive judging by your reply.. how long have you actually used apple's OS's for?? i have used them since the Finder versions were around. mac os 8 was brilliant, sure it didnt support multitasking but who cares? mac os 9 was extremely pretty, it was amazing, and like jaguar, tiger, leopard and the rest of the X series it integrated perfectly with the programs. like tiger/leopard i never had to think about what i was doing because the GUI was snappy, responsive and easy to use. unlike windows, which is slow, hard to navigate and pathetic, any mac os IMHO would flogg the hell out of any other OS.

no, apple's os only started to be better than windows starting with osx, namely 10.2. even then 10.2 wasnt that great. osx really only hitted its stride with 10.4


anything before that, using apple was pure preference and could not interact with windows very nicely at all

i say this after having macs since my whole life

to say that any mac os during its time would "flog" any other os is simply a fanboy comment

 

[DoFoT9]

no, apple's os only started to be better than windows starting with osx, namely 10.2. even then 10.2 wasnt that great. osx really only hitted its stride with 10.4


i say this after having macs since my whole life

to say that any mac os during its time would "flog" any other os is simply a fanboy comment

yes OMG APPLE FTW!!!11!! they are the l33t35+!

seriously... dont even start with the fanboy **** i am trying to state my opinion against someone elses not start a fanboy war.

i dont care if you have used macs for a decade or a minute, it doesnt change the fact that we clearly have opposing opinions.

anything before that, using apple was pure preference and could not interact with windows very nicely at all

does everything needed to be compared to windows? if you think back in the day when os8/windows wateva was around a windows-windows network wasnt even that easy to set up. it was unreliable, unstable and a pain in the ass to work.

the only window OS that i would use is XP. EVERYTHING is is a pure failure IMO.

 

[dukebound85]

yes OMG APPLE FTW!!!11!! they are the l33t35+!

seriously... dont even start with the fanboy **** i am trying to state my opinion against someone elses not start a fanboy war.

i dont care if you have used macs for a decade or a minute, it doesnt change the fact that we clearly have opposing opinions.



does everything needed to be compared to windows? if you think back in the day when os8/windows wateva was around a windows-windows network wasnt even that easy to set up. it was unreliable, unstable and a pain in the ass to work.

the only window OS that i would use is XP. EVERYTHING is is a pure failure IMO.

im not the one who stated that any mac os "floggs the hell" out of any other os now did i?

if thats not a fanboy comment, then what is?

i dont even know why i am replying to you, you seem a bit naive judging by your reply.. how long have you actually used apple's OS's for?? i have used them since the Finder versions were around.

also, when you ask sneezymarble this ^^, you imply that you know it all since you have used mac os for sooo long. thats why i said i have used it my whole life.
lol and then you reply with

i dont care if you have used macs for a decade or a minute

in other words, dont post your biased opinions on the greatness of mac os's and expect no crticism

lets get back on topic about hackintoshes though

 

[DoFoT9]

im not the one who stated that any mac os "floggs" any other os now did i?

if thats not a fanboy comment, then what is?

you insulting my vocabulary and how i act?? if you are going to reply please actually make it worthwhile so i can provide my part of my story instead of having to reply to posts that aren't based on the topic at all.

also, when you ask sneezymarble this ^^, you imply that you know it all since you have used mac os for sooo long. thats why i said i have used it my whole life.
lol and then you reply with

excellent, i was wondering how old you were. im guessing 20ish?? me too i would never willingly 'claim' that i know it all, i was asking a questions as to how long he has used the macintosh OS for. i needed to know this because
1) so i knew that he had actually used os8/os9 etc to base his opinion around
and
2) to reinforce what i was arguing.

 

[dukebound85]

you insulting my vocabulary and how i act?? if you are going to reply please actually make it worthwhile so i can provide my part of my story instead of having to reply to posts that aren't based on the topic at all.

huh what? i merely responded to what you wrote. i didnt insult you or how you act...

i just said claiming that the statement "any mac os would flogg the hell out of any other os" is along the lines of a fanboy comment

excellent, i was wondering how old you were. im guessing 20ish?? me too i would never willingly 'claim' that i know it all, i was asking a questions as to how long he has used the macintosh OS for. i needed to know this because
1) so i knew that he had actually used os8/os9 etc to base his opinion around
and
2) to reinforce what i was arguing.

fair enough. i just took issue with that one line you wrote

 

[DoFoT9]

huh what? i merely responded to what you wrote. i didnt insult you or how you act...

i just said claiming that the statement "any mac os would flogg the hell out of any other os" is along the lines of a fanboy comment

fair enough. i just took issue with that one line you wrote

righteo then. ill shutup now. back to the thread

 

[richard.mac]

… lovely setup... are you sure you wanna wreck it by using ONLY 800mhz RAM??

p.s. are them aussie prices or us?

yeh hopefully it will work perfect and have a good benchmark score. im going to put Leopard on the Raptor and then Vista on a partition on the 1TB drive.

i dont know much about RAM speed so i thought id just go for 800 MHz which is pretty much the norm right now. what should i go for? i wanna overclock to 3 GHz so does the RAM speed have anything to do with this? the G.SKILL RAM has 4 timings so its plenty fast anyway.

its in $US at Newegg prices and a couple of Amazon prices. i was going to buy from the US with PriceUSA.com.au which adds 5% for shipping fees but the Aussie dollar is **** right now so its about $AU 2251. so i will either have to wait for the dollar to rise or buy it here which is about 2 grand. i shouldve bought it when the $AU was $US0.90 but i wasnt certain on the parts and didnt have the funds… oh well!