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What describes you?

  • No way would I build a hackintosh

    Votes: 349 23.0%
  • I'd consider it if Apple doesn't provide a new Mini or headless iMac in the next three months

    Votes: 185 12.2%
  • I'm considering it right now

    Votes: 578 38.2%
  • I already built one

    Votes: 403 26.6%

  • Total voters
    1,515
can i ask what you use your hack for?? it would be interesting to know, because maybe the things i do on mine would cause your system to stutter, freeze etc, or many the programs you run will work perfectly on mine :)

I use my machine for video encoding, editing, 3D animation, watching HD movies, playing games, photo editing, listening to music, folding, etc. Some of the programs I use are Final Cut Pro, CS4, Blender, Zbrush, Lightwave, Lightroom, Artrage, etc. I really haven't run into any problems with any of those programs. Overall, the OS is snappy and responsive. The other day I was at an Apple store and it felt, to me, like the 2.8GHz octo-core they had on display was a little less responsive and snappy with respect to programs opening and just overall usability.

that is fair enough, a good cooling system is always required :) can i ask what temperatures your hack runs at while idle/under load? there is a pretty big difference between the c2d and xeons in max temperature ratings. this is important for high-end OC'ing and changing the voltages etcetc. you probably wouldnt get near the limit though im guessing, if your cooling system is good enough.

At 3.73GHz my hottest core idles at 43C. The reason for the nearly 10C spread is because the contact surface of the heatsink or the CPU isn't perfectly flat. Since the Q6600s are so cheap I've thought about lapping the surface of the CPU which will serve to even the spread and reduce temperatures even more.

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Still not working...

Ok, to retrace my steps for this morning:

1. Loaded into -s, but couldn't execute those commands. I think you need to give it to a Mac noob like me in step by step lol
2. I assumed you wanted me to try repair permissions, so i loaded up ideneb and ran disk utilities from there, and it (allegedly) repaired a whole bunch of permissions. I didn't hit repair disk.
3. The only bios setting i found that related to what you were saying was the ACHP setting, which i changed (Changed ACHP from disabled to enabled, changed SATA/IDE from IDE to ACHP, but it only changed the way my bios operated and wouldn't load my standard BIOS at all. Needless to say it was operating very wierd and couldn't have been set up that way before - Windows wouldn't even boot off my other partition! So i reverted it, cause even OSX still wouldn't load.

It gets to the pale blue screen, my curser appears at the top left, and the spinning circle spins for a while, then it goes blank and repeats this again.

Grrr, please help me it's driving me insane!
 
Well when I first had the chip I was still using Debian GNU/Linux last year so I was compiling kernels, various newer versions of software I wanted so it was getting a real workout most days. Days at a time really sometimes so it came in damn handy now a days it is pretty much wasted but I am not going to take the loss selling off what was a damn expensive processor when it was bought. Add to that the low voltage high overclock at that voltage I think I am running it till it dies now...

yes i can imagine, last year that thing would have been near top of the line. it would have cost you a mint! i daresay it will still give you another 4-5years even running under the intense changes you have given it. i hope it pays off for you :)

Yeah it is pretty good once we get into the middle of winter in a few months it will be in the low 30s.

30°F? that is darn cold! it doesnt get below 15°C (39°F) here in winter so it is never cool enough to make a difference for me. my bedroom is underground so it stays at the same temperature all year round anyways.

Hmm that is strange I only ever used it with two cards my Geforce 7900GS KO and 8800GT but it worked great for both of them. Don't think I seen it what do you have for a card?

i have an 8500GT 512mb, it is enough power for me. i just wanted a card that is HDCP compliant with enough power for me to play lego starwars and a bit of cod2 online :)

That is my motto whatever it takes to get the job done do it, you wouldn't believe some of the hacks I had going in Debian...

my motto is "just keep hacking" eheh. (no relation to the act of hacking into computer systems, hackintoshes etc haha). that is a nice motto :)

It is similar to a BIOS without the legacy crud. The EFI has a table of strings for the supported hardware and their capabilities that gets passed to the operating system when posting the machine. All that happens when using a hack is these strings are loaded (injected) then via emulation the system calls are translated to something the BIOS would understand if it is needed most times after posting a machine will not need access to it anyways and will just use the information it already has from the string.

right so a table of strings is passed into the system which detects hardware, easy enough to understand. so the only difference (problem) between a hack and a mac is that hacks are emulated. i wonder what kind of limitations that gives the computer, im sure there are some.

I use my machine for video encoding, editing, 3D animation, watching HD movies, playing games, photo editing, listening to music, folding, etc. Some of the programs I use are Final Cut Pro, CS4, Blender, Zbrush, Lightwave, Lightroom, Artrage, etc. I really haven't run into any problems with any of those programs. Overall, the OS is snappy and responsive. The other day I was at an Apple store and it felt, to me, like the 2.8GHz octo-core they had on display was a little less responsive and snappy with respect to programs opening and just overall usability.

quite an arsenal or medium-range intensity programs, however, i wouldnt really say that a test with the apple store computer would be a comparison. those computers normally have the minimal RAM, minimal HD etc. the programs you mentioned need a fair bit of resources so yea, but how good is it to see that your computer performs better than one more than 5 times the cost of your hackintosh!!!

from my experience with my hackintosh vs my imac, the hackintosh is slower than the imac even though it is faster.. but yea.. different experiences for different people

At 3.73GHz my hottest core idles at 43C. The reason for the nearly 10C spread is because the contact surface of the heatsink or the CPU isn't perfectly flat. Since the Q6600s are so cheap I've thought about lapping the surface of the CPU which will serve to even the spread and reduce temperatures even more.

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that is impressive. i need to increase my cooling system something chronic. i have two questions, if i may ask them..
1) how did you get your RAM at 800mhz? when i check it in system profiler it only comes up as 667mhz, even though xp shows the correct readings. i may have to check the BIOS settings just incase.
2) how did you get your temperature readings working correctly? i am only able to detect the HD temperatures... :(

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1) how did you get your RAM at 800mhz? when i check it in system profiler it only comes up as 667mhz, even though xp shows the correct readings. i may have to check the BIOS settings just incase.

Actually, my RAM is running at 828MHz. My FSB is at 414MHz. System Profiler just detects it as 800MHz. I don't exactly know why it doesn't report the other 28MHz. Maybe it just reports what the RAM is rated at. Or, maybe it's just a simple text string in a file somewhere as opposed to being truly dynamic. I just don't know.

However, profiler does report the correct bus speed which should be twice the RAM speed since the RAM is running in dual channel mode.

2) how did you get your temperature readings working correctly? i am only able to detect the HD temperatures... :(

I didn't do anything. When I installed Temperaturemonitor it asked if it could install some Intel specific driver or something so that it could accurately detect the temps. Other than that I haven't done anything special. I should point out that when I start Temperaturemonitor, sometimes it'll take up to a minute before all the cores have a temperature report.
 
i7 in a Hackintosh

Should we be able to build a Hackintosh with an Core i7 chip? I wouldn't mind doing that if I knew it would work.

Or might we have to wait until Apple starts building a comparable spec to ensure it works correctly?

Thanks for any info in advance...

I've got a case and a couple of old 750 GB drives I'd like to re-use and would like to build a cheap i7 based quad core...
 
Should we be able to build a Hackintosh with an Core i7 chip? I wouldn't mind doing that if I knew it would work.

Or might we have to wait until Apple starts building a comparable spec to ensure it works correctly?

Thanks for any info in advance...

I've got a case and a couple of old 750 GB drives I'd like to re-use and would like to build a cheap i7 based quad core...
hmmm i wonder if the architectural changes in the i7 would effect it?
 
Should we be able to build a Hackintosh with an Core i7 chip? I wouldn't mind doing that if I knew it would work.

Or might we have to wait until Apple starts building a comparable spec to ensure it works correctly?

Thanks for any info in advance...

I've got a case and a couple of old 750 GB drives I'd like to re-use and would like to build a cheap i7 based quad core...

you will probably have to wait until Apple puts them in Macs until so the nessesary drivers are in OS X (probably Snow Leopard) unless someone makes drivers like they did for AMD.

the new i7 compatible mobos are way expensive and have 1366 pins instead of 775 right now. its VERY new tech, i say just wait around a while.
 
Anyone want to offer any advice before i throw my PC in the bin? lol

Ok, to retrace my steps for this morning:

1. Loaded into -s, but couldn't execute those commands. I think you need to give it to a Mac noob like me in step by step lol
2. I assumed you wanted me to try repair permissions, so i loaded up ideneb and ran disk utilities from there, and it (allegedly) repaired a whole bunch of permissions. I didn't hit repair disk.
3. The only bios setting i found that related to what you were saying was the ACHP setting, which i changed (Changed ACHP from disabled to enabled, changed SATA/IDE from IDE to ACHP, but it only changed the way my bios operated and wouldn't load my standard BIOS at all. Needless to say it was operating very wierd and couldn't have been set up that way before - Windows wouldn't even boot off my other partition! So i reverted it, cause even OSX still wouldn't load.

It gets to the pale blue screen, my curser appears at the top left, and the spinning circle spins for a while, then it goes blank and repeats this again.

Grrr, please help me it's driving me insane!
 
Ok, to retrace my steps for this morning:

1. Loaded into -s, but couldn't execute those commands. I think you need to give it to a Mac noob like me in step by step lol

Well it tells you the commands to run to mount the / partition then fsck it if you cannot find the proper number(s) for the partition to mount then use diskutil list

Code:
macuser2525s-mac-pro:~ MacUser2525$ sudo diskutil list
Password:
/dev/disk0
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *596.2 Gi   disk0
   1:                        EFI                         200.0 Mi   disk0s1
   2:                  Apple_HFS Leopard                 40.0 Gi    disk0s2
   3:                  Apple_HFS Home                    40.0 Gi    disk0s3
   4:                  Apple_HFS music                   80.0 Gi    disk0s4
   5:                  Apple_HFS video                   435.5 Gi   disk0s5

There in my system disk you can see my / partition which I named Leopard is disk0s2 you would use the one yours is on in the mount command.

2. I assumed you wanted me to try repair permissions, so i loaded up ideneb and ran disk utilities from there, and it (allegedly) repaired a whole bunch of permissions. I didn't hit repair disk.

Yes that is what I was getting at and it actually does do it when it say it is.

3. The only bios setting i found that related to what you were saying was the ACHP setting, which i changed (Changed ACHP from disabled to enabled, changed SATA/IDE from IDE to ACHP, but it only changed the way my bios operated and wouldn't load my standard BIOS at all. Needless to say it was operating very wierd and couldn't have been set up that way before - Windows wouldn't even boot off my other partition! So i reverted it, cause even OSX still wouldn't load.

Sure it was not ACHI I may have got the middle two letters reversed. This is what you want for OS X with the controller set to SATA mode not Raid, Native or IDE. For it to work in this mode in Vista I believe you need to have installed it with the mode turned on at time of install/installed drivers for it in Vista not totally certain though never used it was that way in XP.
Grrr, please help me it's driving me insane!

Probably best to go to the insanelymac.com forum and start your own thread listing all the hardware in your machine along with the install method, the settings used in BIOS, things tried so far, stuff like that you will get more eyes on the problem than trying to solve it here in this great big jumbled up thread.

yes i can imagine, last year that thing would have been near top of the line. it would have cost you a mint! i daresay it will still give you another 4-5years even running under the intense changes you have given it. i hope it pays off for you :)

Yeah just a bit of cash it is the most I ever spent on a processor I usually like to keep it in the $150 range at most.

30°F? that is darn cold! it doesnt get below 15°C (39°F) here in winter so it is never cool enough to make a difference for me. my bedroom is underground so it stays at the same temperature all year round anyways.

30s C for the processor in winter although it does get pretty damn cold around here, it can go to the -40+ C in the coldest part of winter then you need to take into account the wind chill. Its -14C as I write this right now supposed to get a warm snap in a couple of days with balmy a 6C and rain as opposed too the two feet of snow out there now...

i have an 8500GT 512mb, it is enough power for me. i just wanted a card that is HDCP compliant with enough power for me to play lego starwars and a bit of cod2 online :)

Seems like a reasonable idea for getting a card not everyone needs to spend hundreds like I did, I got mine for maximum compatibility with the OS X hardware at the time still waited til the price on them came down into the under two hundred range though.


my motto is "just keep hacking" eheh. (no relation to the act of hacking into computer systems, hackintoshes etc haha). that is a nice motto :)

Actually that is "cracking" just the useless media can never let the facts or proper terminology get in the way of a sexier story, a hacker is some who hacks (works) on the system always has been no matter what the fools say.

right so a table of strings is passed into the system which detects hardware, easy enough to understand. so the only difference (problem) between a hack and a mac is that hacks are emulated. i wonder what kind of limitations that gives the computer, im sure there are some.

Most likely there are some problems in there with the way manufacturers never seem to strictly follow the standards/cut corners to save two cents on a part being the chief culprit I would say. This is where Apple really does have the advantage theoretically anyways in knowing the exact hardware/firmware/software they are supposed to be getting unless their OEMs do the same to them.


Actually, my RAM is running at 828MHz. My FSB is at 414MHz. System Profiler just detects it as 800MHz. I don't exactly know why it doesn't report the other 28MHz. Maybe it just reports what the RAM is rated at. Or, maybe it's just a simple text string in a file somewhere as opposed to being truly dynamic. I just don't know.

It reports what it finds in the SPD chip on the ram module as far as I can tell. I have put 667 and 800 in machines before and it always seems to come up right for which one is there no matter if over/under clocked it reported the module rated speed.
However, profiler does report the correct bus speed which should be twice the RAM speed since the RAM is running in dual channel mode.

That would be the first D in DDR (double data rate) ram doing that, dual channel means the modules are paired together to double the memory bus with from 64bit to 128bit in these boards.

I didn't do anything. When I installed Temperaturemonitor it asked if it could install some Intel specific driver or something so that it could accurately detect the temps.

The core temperature driver it uses the on board thermistor in the chip for its readings not the ones on the motherboard.
Other than that I haven't done anything special. I should point out that when I start Temperaturemonitor, sometimes it'll take up to a minute before all the cores have a temperature report.

Same thing sometimes happens here when I start it.
 
you will probably have to wait until Apple puts them in Macs until so the nessesary drivers are in OS X (probably Snow Leopard) unless someone makes drivers like they did for AMD.

the new i7 compatible mobos are way expensive and have 1366 pins instead of 775 right now. its VERY new tech, i say just wait around a while.

A guy at insanelymac already has OSX running on his x58 setup. A new x58 (1366pin) setup isn't as expensive as you might think. Especially considering the performance you'll get out of it. An entire system with case, PSU, KB/M, disc drive, 1TB HD, 9800GT, 6GB fastest DDR3, x58 motherboard and i7 920 can be had for $1400. Several sites have shown that on stock cooling you can get the cheapest i7 (the 920) above 3.2GHz. $1400 will get you quite a performer right now. The new iMacs won't be able to touch it. If they offer a quad core i7 this system will likely stomp all over it with overclocks. Add some fancier cooling for another $100 and you could probably go up to 3.8-4.0GHz.

Just imagine what you could have when the x58 1366 dual socket motherboards start coming out.
 
Does anyone know if it's possible to put OS X on an ASUS Eee PC 1000 40GB? My long time Mac using friend just got one and I want to know if I should advise him to try and put OS X on it.
 
Does anyone know if it's possible to put OS X on an ASUS Eee PC 1000 40GB? My long time Mac using friend just got one and I want to know if I should advise him to try and put OS X on it.

It's probably possible. Try googling to see if anyone else has done it.
 
Windows XP Bootloader problem

I have successfully set up a new HD to use the Windows XP Bootloader. I edited the ini file "boot" using Notepad. I have followed the detailed instructions using Partition Magic. Now, when I try to boot, into Windows, the computer keeps coming back to the boot screen. One time, I got an error message stating that some file was missing, but I do not remember the exact wording, and I cannot duplicate that effect.

I cannot get back into Windows to edit the boot loader. There must be an easy fix, but I am not aware of it.

Any ideas?

This is the boot file that I changed. Now the computer refuses to boot into Windows XP, but I can make it boot into Leopard. How can I get Windows to boot so I can change the ini file?

boot.ini

[boot loader]
timeout=10
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)0000
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)0000="Microsoft Windows XP Professional"
/noexecute=optin /fastdetect
c:\chain0="Mac"
 
It's probably possible. Try googling to see if anyone else has done it.

I googled, but I couldn't find any info specific to the eee PC 1000. And the very out-of-date related info I found said that there's no audio on other hackintosh netbooks. Is that still true on all netbook hackintoshes?
 
I have successfully set up a new HD to use the Windows XP Bootloader. I edited the ini file "boot" using Notepad. I have followed the detailed instructions using Partition Magic. Now, when I try to boot, into Windows, the computer keeps coming back to the boot screen. One time, I got an error message stating that some file was missing, but I do not remember the exact wording, and I cannot duplicate that effect.

I cannot get back into Windows to edit the boot loader. There must be an easy fix, but I am not aware of it.

Any ideas?

This is the boot file that I changed. Now the computer refuses to boot into Windows XP, but I can make it boot into Leopard. How can I get Windows to boot so I can change the ini file?

boot.ini

[boot loader]
timeout=10
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)0000
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)0000="Microsoft Windows XP Professional"
/noexecute=optin /fastdetect
c:\chain0="Mac"

Not getting an answer, I plowed ahead with my own solution. The example given at the beginning of the Insanely Mac thread, shown below, was just a bit wrong thus causing Windows XP not to boot. I had to modify it to make it work, but I had to re-install Windows XP Professional before I could make the changes.

BEFORE CHANGES:
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)0000
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)0000="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
c:\chain0="MAC OS X Tiger"

Below is my modified version:

default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
c:\chain0="Mac"

After re-installing XP, the boot loader now works, and I can choose between XP and Mac, which loads Leopard, on the same 500GB hard drive. I sized the 3rd partition named FAT32 as 50GB.
 
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