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The Merged Hackintosh Thread
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ever heard of Orlando Magic? you know the NBA champions? just playin!
lol nope never ever. cant say i follow basket-ball.
Basketball..Blech.
The neighborhood went when the Rat showed up.
no idea what you just said.. but i follow cricket and tennis
Here's a hint.
and a pretty bad one at that
all i can think of is that Rattoulie movie or Rattus the Rat from that old ABC tv show Feral TV...
Maybe this image will jog your memory.and a pretty bad one at that
all i can think of is that Rattoulie movie or Rattus the Rat from that old ABC tv show Feral TV...
im a dreamer
i would make the right choices if i was CEO
Like what, building things better by using more expensive components, materials and labor? All that would do is make your products cost more than your competition's, causing most people to buy from your competition. The few who were left behind as you closed your doors (holding your products with no more warranty) would then get on this forum, and complain. It's a weird problem to solve really. Any CEO who tries to do "the right thing" gets automatically weeded out by the realities of the marketplace. (I know, you were being sarcastic. But this is a real problem, isn't it?)
...i just hope these bail outs will be sufficient enough to save us
They won't. The consolation prize may be that you'll get bragging rights about how you lived through a depression that made the one in the 1930s look like a walk in the park. That kind of experience might be enough for people to figure out what was wrong with their situation. But I think that the majority of people have such inadequate understandings of economics, government, etc., and such over-developed feelings of superiority (in terms of the correctness of their flawed views) that they'll probably all gang up and decide to do stupid things instead.
good point - i have no idea what i am talking about. but, if i were CEO of a big corporation - don't you think i would have an idea of how to run it and become successful? its not that there are "knowledgeable" CEOs and "non-knowledgeable" CEOs, its just that some are moral, and others are immoral
.this recession is bigger then the 1930s? for you maybe, in australia we technically arent in one
Actually, building with better components & better designs can actually save money by significantly reducing the warranty replacements.
Consumers do play their part though, as in their haste to be cheap (lowest sticker price only, no consideration for longevity,...), they did help force companies that built good products to change to the same crap the "inexpensive" brands were selling.
Their reward? They get unreliable and poorly functional products. In the end, the "bargain" actually costs them more in the long term, as they have to replace the garbage they've bought rather often due to it's short lifespan.
It's bad, as it's the worst since The Great Depression, but not as bad as that. Yet.
...if i were CEO of a big corporation - don't you think i would have an idea of how to run it and become successful? its not that there are "knowledgeable" CEOs and "non-knowledgeable" CEOs, its just that some are moral, and others are immoral
this recession is bigger then the 1930s? for you maybe, in australia we technically arent in one
Being the CEO of a large corporation (or any corporation for that matter) only requires that you be hired for the job. I've known of plenty of CEOs, presidents and other corporate officers who have been hired because they made the right sounds, had friends or relatives on the board of directors, or for some other silly reason. I certainly wouldn't assume that just because somebody was a CEO he was well educated in the ways of success. As far as moral VS immoral (I'd say amoral) goes, a better correlation can usually be found between "moral" CEOs and privately held companies and between "amoral" CEOs and publicly held companies. That's my 2 cents worth on the subject anyway.
And as for the size of the current "recession," it is a catastrophic meltdown waiting to happen. It will be a real depression as soon as the debtor nations of the world are cut off from anymore borrowing by the lendor nations. The US is the world's biggest debtor nation in terms of the amount of money involved. But that doesn't mean that all the other nations won't go through throes of agony when the US economy burns to the ground.
That's probably enough of a damper on this forum's participants' enthusiasm for one day. Now back to the subject of hackintoshes... I'm still looking for the kexts I need for a P5LD2-VM motherboard.
the CEO should not be hired then if he knows nothing...
when it happens (not if) - it will destroy everything
lovely...what particular kexts were you after??
Perhaps in theory. But manufacturers have figured out that buyers (statistically) will not bother to pursue difficult warranty replacement claims (I won't), and will just take the path of least resistance.
First of all, consumers play the primary game-changing part. The majority of them always opt for the lower cost items. Second, there is no long term in the computer components business. Everything will get replaced rather often anyway due to the fact that there will be a short lifespan because of innovation, regardless of how much longer the stuff could have been built to last.
The situation is worse than it was in the 1930s. Most of the "problems" just haven't hit the fan yet, that's all.
There's never been a good argument for the contrary. But that hasn't ever stopped anybody from hiring an idiot.
when it happens (not if) - it will destroy everything
It'll be painful. That's for sure.
I'm completely in the dark on that. Probably I'll just give up on it, sell all my remaining PC components, and just go buy some Macs.
i am one of those people who will persue the warranty, even if it takes a while - currently in one now.. so you cant completely rule his point out.
i hope nobody initiates it..
Most people get their systems from vendors, not DIY. This gives a single point of contact, and people will persue this route when there's a problem. Granted, vendors have intentionally tried to make things difficult (consumer side), but they do have plenty of RMA claims.
Obtaining RMA's directly from manufacturers is a difficult task, but people do persue that as well. Just check the user comments in the lowest ratings on newegg.
But I agree, the difficulties set in place do help reduce the number of claims on smaller ticket items. People IMO, tend to be more acceptable of "eating" the cost compared to the hassle of say a $30USD dead optical drive vs. say a $300+USD mother board.
If you look back, they weren't really given a choice.
When deregulation occured, products manufactured in the US disappeared, and the overseas replacements were of inferior quality, and with nothing else to chose from, bought it or did without. As people do love their toys, the latter wasn't going to happen. Unfortunately, we've a generation or two that have never seen proper products (products that would last well beyond their warranty periods, and were fully functional). I'm not that old, but I do remember the difference. As per the lifespan of electronics, no they won't last forever, but 3 - 5 years isn't unreasonable either. I'm under the impression your take is as a single system consumer, not enterprise use (this isn't any sort of insult, so don't take offense). That's to say, one person with a specific set of tasks, that isn't deminishing (usually adding in tasks as new things come along). So when the system slows, they presume they need a new one (not necessarily the case though, read on). Even for consumers, 3 years isn't unreasonable.
But the component quality has dropped to the lowest standards in consumer machines (say $600USD or less) consumer systems, as it's a fierce market. Sales are dependent on features, and it must be produced within a very tight budget. So component quality is the sacrifice, as well as proper design.
The enterprise market is different, as though a user (1st person to get the machine) may outgrow it, but it can usually be downlined to someone else who's needs aren't as stringent. This can improve the service lifespan of the system, and makes it a better value cost wise as a result.
Also, many users neglect to realize that certain upgrades can allow the viability of a system to continue. RAID for example. As software's code bloat continues unabatedly, newer versions are running slower on the same system. It will have it's affects on the entire system, but drive throughput is the biggest bottleneck in any system made with a single drive configuration. By improving this aspect, just as people increase memory and upgrade graphics cards, it helps drastically. Even more so than a graphics card (except perhaps for gamers). Memory can be close, but it still depends on drive throughput to keep it "well fed".
I agree it's worse than most people realize, but it's not actually at Great Depression levels or worse, YET (key word of course). It depends on what happens. I'm not that hopeful mind you, as the solution is to increase exports. With little manufacturing remaining, that's going to be nearly impossible. Only if investments in manufacturing/industrial facilities to be built & brought online quickly, and the lack of anything else to make matters worse occuring simultaneously, will it have a chance of really working.
The continuation of a service based economy is a complete mistake, as bubbles don't work. We've plenty of proof of that. Now whether corporations and politicians will take proper notice and heed those lessons, is another story however.
It hasn't had any appreciable effect on people's choices of where they buy their systems. It's only had the effect of causing those consumers to waste their time. Almost nobody is willing to sue over it. Most of those who try to sue over it, lose their cases, and have to pay their opponent's legal fees.
Obtaining RMA's directly from manufacturers is a difficult task, but people do persue that as well. Just check the user comments in the lowest ratings on newegg.
You're talking about DIY'ers again here.
If you're going to say that most people by from someplace like Dell, you can't then make a big deal out of system components. But that aside, in my opinion, things like $300 motherboards are small ticket items. Peoples' time is more valuable than the cost of hassling with warranty claims.
If you look back, they weren't really given a choice.
I haven't seen any appreciable quality drop in terms of systems being built in such a way as to shorten their lifespans, as a result of components being manufactured offshore. If anything, I've seen the opposite. And deregulation hasn't had any effect on that in any case. It's a simple matter of competition.
It's funny that you'd think my perspective comes from dealing with single system consumers. As a matter of fact, I recently retired from the computer business after 30 years of building and supporting corporate LANs with hundreds of computers, many file servers, etc. My last upgrade cycle for my last client involved replacing 20 servers and hundreds of workstations. All of those had performed reliably for about 10 years. I doubt you'll find any better record of longevity or bang for buck. Or even an example where the vendor was better able to design a system for long term reliability.
Well I disagree with everything you said here. We never do "hand me downs" of older systems. All of our users (within a given enterprise) use identical systems. It's more expensive for the time and resources involved to support multiple system types. It is usually also too expensive to do system upgrades. And we have NEVER put RAID systems on workstations (except for video editing systems that needed it back in the days before drives were fast enough). I would never put a RAID system in a machine in order to upgrade its performance. The improvement, if there were any at all, would be very subtle, assuming that the system was designed properly in the first place. And the cost would be way too high when compared with building a new system.
I agree it's worse than most people realize, but it's not actually at Great Depression levels or worse, YET (key word of course). It depends on what happens. I'm not that hopeful mind you, as the solution is to increase exports. With little manufacturing remaining, that's going to be nearly impossible. Only if investments in manufacturing/industrial facilities to be built & brought online quickly, and the lack of anything else to make matters worse occuring simultaneously, will it have a chance of really working.
The continuation of a service based economy is a complete mistake, as bubbles don't work. We've plenty of proof of that. Now whether corporations and politicians will take proper notice and heed those lessons, is another story however.
Well in my opinion is IS ALREADY worse than the great depression in terms of the economic situation. The fact that we don't yet have as many people unemployed can be explained by the fact that we are living on BORROWED money, and are continuing to borrow. The US has become the biggest debtor nation in the world. It has borrowed, and continues to borrow more money that it can ever pay back. Eventually this will end. At that point, the economy here will grind to a halt. People will look at their computer and TV screens as they power down and never come back up. Their priorities will shift from evaluating the quality decreases in computer components, to trying to figure out what they can eat, now that trucks can no longer deliver food to their supermarkets.
And for the record, the US still has the highest level of manufacturing of any country in the world. It is less now than it once was. But it's still the highest. That won't save us from borrowing ourselves to death though. Most people in the US have no understanding of economics. They are destroying the fantastic legacy left to them by their forebears, as they squander their inheritance and busy themselves with entertainments.
No, it hasn't, as systems in the same market from different vendors are generally using the same grade of parts (say the $600 or less econo box machines).
As per legal attempts, companies can easily out afford the plainiff(s), and the laws have been adjusted to favor corporations these days. An individual really hasn't a chance.
For enterprise customers, no, the time is far more valuable. But not so much for home users (consumer market). They've the time to persue it.
As a designer, I have. Most of it relates to manufacturing in some manner, such as the use of inferior electronic components (resistor, caps,...), lack of testing incomming parts (electronics), deviations from the BOM (Bill of Materials = specific P/N's for every single component on the boards), including the bare PCB's (thinner copper than spec'd),... Then there's the lack of testing the "finished" boards (at least pulling random samples for full testing to design specifications).
There's issues with design & testing as well. Too little development time, so prototype testing isn't complete (functionality & electrical specs) in a rush to get a product shipped. Even if the design & proto work is good, it gets sent up for "revision". That's when the above begins to happen (parts shaving, where the P/N's are changed for cheaper, but terrible electrical characteristics), if there's "parts matching", it gets eliminated,... It ends up a different final product than designed. Maybe the trace layout's the same, and the electronic parts that couldn't be swapped out still there, but hacked all the same. All in an attempt to shave every cent possible.
I was getting the impression you were approaching it from the consumer market side, not enterprise.
I've seen and certainly known of companies to transfer systems from one dept. to another. Say engineering workstations sent to accounting or other location.
I've had to use RAID in EDA workstations for years. The data throughput of a single drive is too slow (not impossible to do, but another situation were the time spent waiting was too valuable). The software was on each machine, not a network (there were security reasons for this).
Hey all,
Using a Q9550, GAEP45TUD3LR, 2x2gb ddr3 ram, gtx 280 1GB, 700W OCZ, 74GB 10K Drive SATA i am not able to run Mac.
I'm sure i have a step wrong somewhere.
1. Set the mode or w/e to AHCI, and make cd boot first priority.
2. Put in OSX86 10.5.6 PPF5 DVD to drive.
3. Boot to DVD
4. Wipe HDD and install the plugins and OS and such according to the success story here (changing the VRAM of course). Let it shutdown/restart
5. Eject the DVD
6. After ejecting, set HDD to primary boot and disable AHCI.
7. Then it should work but it doesnt!....
yet after doing that and spending an all nighter trying to figure it out i have no idea still....
This is my first build so please teach me oh wise ones! Currently i am using osx86 IPC but i am also downloading iAtkos v7.
Thanks and good day,
Zach
Using a Q9550, GAEP45TUD3LR, 2x2gb ddr3 ram, gtx 280 1GB, 700W OCZ, 74GB 10K Drive SATA i am not able to run Mac.
I'm sure i have a step wrong somewhere.
1. Set the mode or w/e to AHCI, and make cd boot first priority.
2. Put in OSX86 10.5.6 PPF5 DVD to drive.
3. Boot to DVD
4. Wipe HDD and install the plugins and OS and such according to the success story here (changing the VRAM of course). Let it shutdown/restart
5. Eject the DVD
6. After ejecting, set HDD to primary boot and disable AHCI.
7. Then it should work but it doesnt!....
yet after doing that and spending an all nighter trying to figure it out i have no idea still....
This is my first build so please teach me oh wise ones! Currently i am using osx86 IPC but i am also downloading iAtkos v7.
Thanks and good day,
Zach
Im building with that mobo (ep45t-ud3lr) as soon as it gets to my house (probably tomorrow). Our pcs are actually going to be very similar. I have a 700w OSZ PSU coming too (the modular one, forget the model name), 2x2gb ddr3, gtx260, Q8400. My pc will be like the little brother to yours, haha.
I'm assuming you can boot so far as to see the gray apple screen? When you boot up you should get to a point where you can type boot options in (before the gray apple screen, should have an 8 second timer or something). Type "-v" in and hit Enter. This boots into Verbose mode, which tells us everything that is happening behind the scenes. Wait for it to stop working and take notes (or a pic of your screen) of the last few lines shown or if anything repeatedly pops up.
I have both iPC and iAtkos v7 and it seems that iAtkos really has great support for never hardware like the gtx 2XX series of cards and stuff. If we cant get iPC working we will try iAtkos.
I'm assuming you can boot so far as to see the gray apple screen? When you boot up you should get to a point where you can type boot options in (before the gray apple screen, should have an 8 second timer or something). Type "-v" in and hit Enter. This boots into Verbose mode, which tells us everything that is happening behind the scenes. Wait for it to stop working and take notes (or a pic of your screen) of the last few lines shown or if anything repeatedly pops up.
I have both iPC and iAtkos v7 and it seems that iAtkos really has great support for never hardware like the gtx 2XX series of cards and stuff. If we cant get iPC working we will try iAtkos.
Yeah, I'm actually able to fully install Mac OS X (or so it seems) to the harddrive and it says "installation succesful, please restart" or whatever. The thing that im having problems with is the boot-up after installing it. My mobo only seems to want to boot to the CD drive (even after changing all three of the boot priorities to Hard Drive) after installing. That is where i'm stuck
I have a P35-DS3L now and i can press F12 at boot to choose what to boot to and which HDD i want. Try that and choose the HDD you installed OSX to. If that doesnt do anything try this:
http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=22844IM said: