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This thread was meant to be about posts concerning RETURNING THE WATCH.

what i read is a lot hobby psychologist (/pseudo apple evangelists) trying to tell people what the Watch is all about and what not....

My guess is that most of the RETURN FOLKS know already what the watch is about, but they're describing their feelings with it. AND WHY IT DIDN'T FIT THEIR LIVES, actually what i wanted to read when i looked for this thread.

My story btw:
I liked the style of SGS 38mm, i liked the fit, i liked the convenience of notifications, but as others said, at the office there's my imac notifying me, and most of the time (car, home, etc.) the iphone is nearby. Although the convenience of gettin notifications/calls so innovative by th Haptic Feedback on the wrist was very dope, I returned the Watch....WHY? Because TO ME, with the first-gen bugginess and the high pricepoint, and the lagginess at all it wasn't meant to be a keeper... But waiting with open eyes for 2nd or 3rd gen...

Also i'm waiting for yet another offtopic-commenter tellin us that i didn't get what the watch was meant for.

Ps. if gen2 or gen3 is a complete product, i would pay the exact same price, but gen1 like the original iphone was is overpriced!
 
This thread was meant to be about posts concerning RETURNING THE WATCH.

what i read is a lot hobby psychologist (/pseudo apple evangelists) trying to tell people what the Watch is all about and what not....

My guess is that most of the RETURN FOLKS know already what the watch is about, but they're describing their feelings with it. AND WHY IT DIDN'T FIT THEIR LIVES, actually what i wanted to read when i looked for this thread.

My story btw:
I liked the style of SGS 38mm, i liked the fit, i liked the convenience of notifications, but as others said, at the office there's my imac notifying me, and most of the time (car, home, etc.) the iphone is nearby. Although the convenience of gettin notifications/calls so innovative by th Haptic Feedback on the wrist was very dope, I returned the Watch....WHY? Because TO ME, with the first-gen bugginess and the high pricepoint, and the lagginess at all it wasn't meant to be a keeper... But waiting with open eyes for 2nd or 3rd gen...

Also i'm waiting for yet another offtopic-commenter tellin us that i didn't get what the watch was meant for.

Ps. if gen2 or gen3 is a complete product, i would pay the exact same price, but gen1 like the original iphone was is overpriced!

I totally get what you're saying. My partner and I both put in preorders for the watch. I wear mine everyday, he returned his. For him, the watch doesn't do enough yet. For me, I love the activity tracking functions. The watch Is a first generation product that isn't for everyone. But I think as features and functions get added, the percentage of people who find the watch useful will increase gradually.
 
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So count me among the RETURNED. I had no other choice but to return mine. I had a medium level rash reaction. I escalated it to support who escalated it further. The response i was given to these escalations was to no joke wash the watch and wear it different. I had done these already and it did not help. I let them know and it was like a dead void of sound. This all required me to spend multi hours of my time telling them details about my medical history. I even sent in no less than 30 pictures. So I went to the store thinking hey maybe i would have more luck that with a fresh and blood human. This could not have been any further from the truth I was actually told people were trying to get "Free Watches" with fake rashes. I stared at the guy like what did you just say to me, like was that some sort of acusation. I then showed him my apple case ID for this device he was just like uhh uhh uhh I believe you. I then as nice as i could finished the interaction and left. So this que's up the email to HQ going hey we have a few flys in the old ointment here. I get a call from executive support. They offered me a new band with me paying the full difference. I let them know I had return the watch cause not a single person had made that offer before. I explained how insulting it was to be looked at like i was trying to free load at the store.

I have to say i loved the watch it was amazing. I loved apple past tense. I have never had such bad customer service from such a great company.

So if any apple rep reads this you have serious hurt your standing with one seriously sad customer
 
This thread was meant to be about posts concerning RETURNING THE WATCH.

what i read is a lot hobby psychologist (/pseudo apple evangelists) trying to tell people what the Watch is all about and what not....

My guess is that most of the RETURN FOLKS know already what the watch is about, but they're describing their feelings with it. AND WHY IT DIDN'T FIT THEIR LIVES, actually what i wanted to read when i looked for this thread.

My story btw:
I liked the style of SGS 38mm, i liked the fit, i liked the convenience of notifications, but as others said, at the office there's my imac notifying me, and most of the time (car, home, etc.) the iphone is nearby. Although the convenience of gettin notifications/calls so innovative by th Haptic Feedback on the wrist was very dope, I returned the Watch....WHY? Because TO ME, with the first-gen bugginess and the high pricepoint, and the lagginess at all it wasn't meant to be a keeper... But waiting with open eyes for 2nd or 3rd gen...

Also i'm waiting for yet another offtopic-commenter tellin us that i didn't get what the watch was meant for.

Ps. if gen2 or gen3 is a complete product, i would pay the exact same price, but gen1 like the original iphone was is overpriced!
Not sure about a pseudo evangelist, but I happen to be an actual psychologist - Ph.D. and all - and I'm just curious as to why you'd buy one in the first place. Meaning, what about what you saw presented on the Watch made you want one? It's overpriced - but you knew that, especially when you, you know, bought it.

People who ordered first thing, without seeing one in person, and not liking it when they got it? Totally understandable. Not using the fitness aspect as much, or don't find it as accurate as they'd hoped (count me in this group most days)? Completely logical reason. For the ones who have watched EVERY video, review, keynote, etc. on the watch, so you KNOW about the limitations and dependence upon the phone, gone to the store and tried on several... PAID for one... then a week later say "It's not what I thought" - that's what I don't get. And maybe you're not in that group. Many seem to be.
 
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Not sure about a pseudo evangelist, but I happen to be an actual psychologist -Ph.D. and all - and I'm just curious as to why you'd buy one in the first place. Meaning, what about what you saw presented on the Watch made you want one? It's overpriced - but you knew that, especially when you, you know, bought it.

People who ordered first thing, without seeing one in person, and not liking it when they got it? Totally understandable. Not using the fitness aspect as much, or don't find it as accurate as they'd hoped (count me in this group most days)? Completely logical reason. For the ones who have watched EVERY video, review, keynote, etc. on the watch, so you KNOW about the limitations and dependence upon the phone, gone to the store and tried on several... PAID for one... then a week later say "It's not what I thought" - that's what I don't get. And maybe you're not in that group. Many seem to be.

Well, first, congrats on your degree ;)

i'm from Germany, the next try-on opportunity is about 200km from where I live. So the two weeks i spend with the watch was my very first experience. As I wrote, it is a wonderful timepiece, very much what i liked to wear on a daily basis although i haven't worn a watch for the last decade or two (I'm 29 btw). I watched nearly all videos available on YouTube and had a very fine expectation about what it can do and for the greater part it fulfill my expectations...

But for example BATTERY LIFE on the 38mm didn't met my demand for a smartwatch, 7 out of 14 days it didn't made it through the day with regular use. I don't count the days where I "played" with it. Pretty much all of the reviews said it would make it through a day and a half easily; it did not for me, sadly.

Then there is the FITNESS ASPECT; fyi I'm just hooked on 'quantifying myself', using Apple Health with a bluetooth scale, calorie counting app and fitness apps, so I'm definitely in the market for a wearable (preferable one with good integration into the Apple ecosystem), so the Apple Watch was my weapon of choice, but it lacked as you know yourself: only checking heart rate every 10 minutes, and general bugginess. Anyway 14 days was a much too short period to check this aspect over time, so I'm very keen on seeing what gen2 will bring in this segment.

Next and last it's a FIRST-GEN PRODUCT IN A NEW CATEGORY for Apple, (I could have known this) so there is a lot aspects to the Watch that don't "just work". A lot of people are praising watchOS2, but i think it will take at least till gen2 and presumably watchOS3 or 4 that we'll see a matured OS, that will fit my expectations of an Apple product.

Let me be clear on the PRICE POINT. I paid 399€ for the 38mm Sports version. In US it's 349$; last year (with a stronger Euro, it would have been 349€, so I'm not counting that in); but from a psychological standpoint it would have been much better to sell the cheapest Watch starting from 299$ (albeit 349€ as of today). All I'm asking is for 50 bucks. At least it's Apple, you get what you pay for, so I wouldn't consider ever buying a 100-200€/$ non-watchOS smartwatch even if it supported iOS in some crippled way.

I totally see the point in the convenience of the Apple Watch and I think it will be a success story kinda like iPod, iPhone and iPad soon in the future.

Quick reminder for me (and all of us) what it (should do/) does very well and is its main categories, is the three by Apple defined: TIMEKEEPING, FITNESS TRACKING and COMMUNICATION

cheers!
 
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Well, first, congrats on your degree ;)

i'm from Germany, the next try-on opportunity is about 200km from where I live. So the two weeks i spend with the watch was my very first experience. As I wrote, it is a wonderful timepiece, very much what i liked to wear on a daily basis although i haven't worn a watch for the last decade or two (I'm 29 btw). I watched nearly all videos available on YouTube and had a very fine expectation about what it can do and for the greater part it fulfill my expectations...

But for example BATTERY LIFE on the 38mm didn't met my demand for a smartwatch, 7 out of 14 days it didn't made it through the day with regular use. I don't count the days where I "played" with it. Pretty much all of the reviews said it would make it through a day and a half easily; it did not for me, sadly.

Then there is the FITNESS ASPECT; fyi I'm just hooked on 'quantifying myself', using Apple Health with a bluetooth scale, calorie counting app and fitness apps, so I'm definitely in the market for a wearable (preferable one with good integration into the Apple ecosystem), so the Apple Watch was my weapon of choice, but it lacked as you know yourself: only checking heart rate every 10 minutes, and general bugginess. Anyway 14 days was a much too short period to check this aspect over time, so I'm very keen on seeing what gen2 will bring in this segment.

Next and last it's a FIRST-GEN PRODUCT IN A NEW CATEGORY for Apple, (I could have known this) so there is a lot aspects to the Watch that don't "just work". A lot of people are praising watchOS2, but i think it will take at least till gen2 and presumably watchOS3 or 4 that we'll see a matured OS, that will fit my expectations of an Apple product.

Let me be clear on the PRICE POINT. I paid 399€ for the 38mm Sports version. In US it's 349$; last year (with a stronger Euro, it would have been 349€, so I'm not counting that in); but from a psychological standpoint it would have been much better to sell the cheapest Watch starting from 299$ (albeit 349€ as of today). All I'm asking is for 50 bucks. At least it's Apple, you get what you pay for, so I wouldn't consider ever buying a 100-200€/$ non-watchOS smartwatch even if it supported iOS in some crippled way.

I totally see the point in the convenience of the Apple Watch and I think it will be a success story kinda like iPod, iPhone and iPad soon in the future.

Quick reminder for me (and all of us) what it (should do/) does very well and is its main categories, is the three by Apple defined: TIMEKEEPING, FITNESS TRACKING and COMMUNICATION

cheers!
First, thanks.

Second, I live out here in Germany too... and the nearest place I could try one on would be either Cologne or Frankfurt - both hours away... so I definitely get your point there.

I have the Space Black SS version... I wanted the sapphire screen, since I know that hitting it against something will inevitably happen, and I don't like shiny silver or stainless steel. I wear watches - I'm a little bit older than you are, so I recall the pre-smartphone days when that was the go-to timepiece for the majority. Would I love the price to be lower? Absolutely... but that's the same for their laptops, phones... even their cables are marked up.

Most of my gripes can/should be handled with software updates, which is already happening. Personally, I don't see OS versions aligning with Watch iterations; I think we'll see OS 3 and 4 before any serious talk about an upgraded Watch. Your experience with the battery is a solid reason to be disappointed, though I'm having no such issues. (42mm version, though, so bigger battery maybe?). My fitness issues seem to be in line with any wrist-worn tracker, and that's that they're just not that accurate by themselves.

My point was that I don't (seriously) understand some of the reasoning I've seen in this thread. I know people who researched the Watch... and then decided that it was useless for them/not worth getting at all. THAT makes perfect sense to me. Or people (like us) far away from a try-on location. Try it for a week or so, then "Meh... not really that useful for me." I totally get that.

The ones that have been following this thing since last September, know everything about it inside and out, and are still "underwhelmed" that it depends so much on the phone, or doesn't have weeklong battery life, or native-running apos (yet) is what I'm interested in. The ones who usually start their posts like "I really wanted to like the Watch, but..."

And I'm not trying to be sarcastic here; I'm really intrigued by the rationale behind such a purchase.
 
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My point was that I don't (seriously) understand some of the reasoning I've seen in this thread. I know people who researched the Watch... and then decided that it was useless for them/not worth getting at all. THAT makes perfect sense to me. Or people (like us) far away from a try-on location. Try it for a week or so, then "Meh... not really that useful for me." I totally get that.

The ones that have been following this thing since last September, know everything about it inside and out, and are still "underwhelmed" that it depends so much on the phone, or doesn't have weeklong battery life, or native-running apos (yet) is what I'm interested in. The ones who usually start their posts like "I really wanted to like the Watch, but..."

And I'm not trying to be sarcastic here; I'm really intrigued by the rationale behind such a purchase.

You don't understand why someone would want to buy a device to try it for their actual day to day usage and then return it if not satisfied?

What I don't understand is why someone obviously satisfied with their device hangs around this thread so much. Does it make you feel better to constantly justify your purchase to other people? Your time would probably be better spent elsewhere. Think of all the other threads in which you could be mentioning your prestigious Ph D in psychology!
 
You don't understand why someone would want to buy a device to try it for their actual day to day usage and then return it if not satisfied?

What I don't understand is why someone obviously satisfied with their device hangs around this thread so much. Does it make you feel better to constantly justify your purchase to other people? Your time would probably be better spent elsewhere. Think of all the other threads in which you could be mentioning your prestigious Ph D in psychology!
No, I said I DO understand that for certain circumstances... look at the post you quoted. Trying it for a week, then being disappointed that you need your phone paired to it - silly. And mentioning my degree was directed at the one individual I quoted, in jest, for his/comment about psychologists. Happy coincidence. Like if someone makes a crack about programmers or IT specialists, and the other person happens to actually BE one.

Also, I didn't buy mine. It was a gift. I'm on record saying that I like the Watch, but doubt I would've bought it - particularly this version. But please, continue with the irrelevant sarcasm.
 
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Sorry to hear that man. Personally I haven't had any issues with the UI after reading the manual.

Ultimately it's of no concern to anyone else but yourself, but I think you'll be losing out man.

I don't think they could have done the .... man.

Wow man, I'm really happy you like your watch man. Man, and I feel so manly wearing my Apple watch, man.
 
I got mine three days ago. The Steel one with Classic Buckle. But today I setup a return. I liked the physical design, I think it really looks gorgeous and the interchangeable strap system is absolutely genius.

But I just feel that for the price (£600) that it should do more. Now don't get me wrong, I know it has a small screen because it is a watch and that will always limit what it can do. But I feel like the limited functionality you can pack in to this small device should be reflected in the price and it just isn't.

£330 for the sport version, £519-£600 for the Steel. These prices are just bonkers for the limited functionality on offer. This watch whilst beautiful is a mass produced product with very little resale value once the 2nd version is released.

I think it's fair to say I'm disappointed that it didn't live up to the price. I really think the Steel should be £199 and the Sport £99. That may sound crazy to some of you but just look at the iPod Touch. The Watch and the iPod Touch share many of the same class of component. Display, WiFi+Bluetooth, Battery, Motion Processor, Light Sensor etc

But the iPod Touch is much larger. That battery costs more, that display surely costs more, there is more aluminum used in its construction, it comes with an 8 Megapixel camera sensor and yet it's cheaper, in-fact it's less than half the price of an Apple Watch Sport. That's just ridiculous. The iPod Touch does way more and is incredible value.

So yeah, I'm returning mine. I did enjoy trying it out but it just isn't good enough. Maybe in a few generations. I'd be surprised if it catches on. I'm sure there are a lot of people who bought it and have buyers remorse, this isn't the kind of device like an iPhone where it just made sense from the first moment you used it, this watch is a very tough sell in my opinion.

I've used the watch for more than a week now. I like it now more than I initially did, but it is still going to be returned. I agree with your points, Quu. I've found that in my actual use of the watch the price just isn't justified, and this is for the $400 model. It's very, very nice looking. It's very comfortable. It works great with my iPhone.

But really, what it is seems to be a wearable notification manager that happens to double as a watch and shockingly basic fitness device. Calling it the 'sport' model is a complete misnomer. It also doesn't have that 'magic' that the first iPod or first iPhone had. I found the learning curve quite steep.

I'm a physician in a busy ER in manhattan. Getting notifications on my wrist is great. I spent less time looking at my phone for the notifications, which certainly helps during busy shifts. But the fact that I cannot actually act on the notifications I want to without using my phone almost completely kills the device for me. Obviously there's a limitation because of the screen size, but that means for $400 i'm getting a very passive device that seems to fill no real hole in my digital life.

If the sport model was $99 I would keep it in a heart beat. Its abilities just do not justify the cost. I'll likely go back to using my Garmin Forerunner as an everyday watch. It's lighter than the Apple Watch, does not do smartphone notifications, but is half the price, has a built in HR monitor on the wrist, has GPS, very easy to use UI, has battery life of 3-4 weeks, is waterproof to 50 meters, and is obviously more geared for running/fitness.
 
I think anyone who says it costs too much for what is does is a very valid reason for returning. I didn't like the look of the sport silver and I love my SS 42mm so I am very happy with my purchase because it does everything I could possibly want a tiny screen to do. Though I use Siri consistently and constantly for all interactions, responses, to-do's, notes, shopping lists, reminders, notification, lookup information, timers,etc.

I do believe people think the watch does more fitness wise and since I can use the watch for 90% without ever touching my watch, I am happy, but I do think everyone with a complaint about cost is a good reason. The cheaper products that do one thing and only one thing well is a good reason. With OS2 coming out soon, we don't know yet how much more the watch will do with native apps and improved everything else. Still no reason for someone to wait for an expensive product if they feel that way. Couldn't argue with anyone. I'm also hoping they add gps to new bands like what is rumored. It would eliminate all the arguments about gps.
 
I think anyone who says it costs too much for what is does is a very valid reason for returning. I didn't like the look of the sport silver and I love my SS 42mm so I am very happy with my purchase because it does everything I could possibly want a tiny screen to do. Though I use Siri consistently and constantly for all interactions, responses, to-do's, notes, shopping lists, reminders, notification, lookup information, timers,etc.

I do believe people think the watch does more fitness wise and since I can use the watch for 90% without ever touching my watch, I am happy, but I do think everyone with a complaint about cost is a good reason. The cheaper products that do one thing and only one thing well is a good reason. With OS2 coming out soon, we don't know yet how much more the watch will do with native apps and improved everything else. Still no reason for someone to wait for an expensive product if they feel that way. Couldn't argue with anyone. I'm also hoping they add gps to new bands like what is rumored. It would eliminate all the arguments about gps.

And that's really the only thing that's got me just a little on the fence now. If native 3rd party apps like Runkeeper and the other fitness apps can bring a much more quantifiable running/fitness experience then it may be worth keeping. The fact that it is so unbelievably poor for fitness currently is my #1 reason for returning it, followed by #2 'not convinced i really need this thing'.

I have to imagine the next update of fitness apps will be using the API to track HR and all that good stuff.

Edit: Also, have see a lot of negative reviews regarding the accuracy of the apple watch even when using the iPhone GPS, so i'm not sure what the issue is there. Will compare it with the forerunner tomorrow.
 
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I've used the watch for more than a week now. I like it now more than I initially did, but it is still going to be returned. I agree with your points, Quu. I've found that in my actual use of the watch the price just isn't justified, and this is for the $400 model. It's very, very nice looking. It's very comfortable. It works great with my iPhone.

But really, what it is seems to be a wearable notification manager that happens to double as a watch and shockingly basic fitness device. Calling it the 'sport' model is a complete misnomer. It also doesn't have that 'magic' that the first iPod or first iPhone had. I found the learning curve quite steep.

I think you're looking at it the wrong way, its a watch that doubles up as a notification manager. After reading the apple watch manual I was quite comfortable using the device.

Wouldn't you like to know who just texted/emailed you by just looking at your wrist? Ain't it cool having a watch face you can configure to show information you're interested in at a glance? To me it sounds like your grief is with the price, but given the amount of intellectual effort that must have gone into its development it probably is reasonable.

Subsequent iPhone releases have come in more expensive, not cheaper. One can only assume the price of the apple watch will either stay the same or increase slightly over time.

When did we become a society where we need to reply to every text/email immediately?( one of the reasons you think the watch fails is because you need to use your phone to respond ).

I dunno man, after reading this thread I'm convinced there are too many people with their own 1 in a million requirements that a single device like this just can't deliver against.

Sad to hear you returned it man, personally I"m loving mine.
 
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I dunno man, after reading this thread I'm convinced there are too many people with their own 1 in a million requirements that a single device like this just can't deliver against.

The inverse of this is also true - this device works for me so it obviously must work for everyone else.

I'm still on the fence about picking one up. The initial appeal of this for me was as a fitness device, but after reading the issues and limitations I'm glad I wasn't an early adopter (which I usually am). I do find this thread pretty interesting as some of the things that people like or don't like are things I haven't thought of.
 
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The inverse of this is also true - this device works for me so it obviously must work for everyone else.

I'm still on the fence about picking one up. The initial appeal of this for me was as a fitness device, but after reading the issues and limitations I'm glad I wasn't an early adopter (which I usually am). I do find this thread pretty interesting as some of the things that people like or don't like are things I haven't thought of.

That's assuming everyone has the same requirements, what I was saying is there are too many unique reasons why watches are being returned and the high expectations people have put on this device.

If you need or in the market for a new watch I would say get one, if not you will be disappoint son. If you are thinking it will perform beyond a watch with a few built in apps you'll be posting your own returns post on this thread too. Lol
 
I've used the watch for more than a week now. I like it now more than I initially did, but it is still going to be returned. I agree with your points, Quu. I've found that in my actual use of the watch the price just isn't justified, and this is for the $400 model. It's very, very nice looking. It's very comfortable. It works great with my iPhone.

But really, what it is seems to be a wearable notification manager that happens to double as a watch and shockingly basic fitness device. Calling it the 'sport' model is a complete misnomer. It also doesn't have that 'magic' that the first iPod or first iPhone had. I found the learning curve quite steep.

I'm a physician in a busy ER in manhattan. Getting notifications on my wrist is great. I spent less time looking at my phone for the notifications, which certainly helps during busy shifts. But the fact that I cannot actually act on the notifications I want to without using my phone almost completely kills the device for me. Obviously there's a limitation because of the screen size, but that means for $400 i'm getting a very passive device that seems to fill no real hole in my digital life.

If the sport model was $99 I would keep it in a heart beat. Its abilities just do not justify the cost. I'll likely go back to using my Garmin Forerunner as an everyday watch. It's lighter than the Apple Watch, does not do smartphone notifications, but is half the price, has a built in HR monitor on the wrist, has GPS, very easy to use UI, has battery life of 3-4 weeks, is waterproof to 50 meters, and is obviously more geared for running/fitness.

And for these reasons I'm out!

But seriously I feel the same way. I'm going to give this thing one more week although I already know that for me at least it doesn't fulfill a $350+ want/need.

As a watch and my personal preference there are nicer watches out there in that price.

As far as the overall functionality, aside from being able to activate siri and reply to text messages I also don't feel it's worth the price of admission.

That being said I know that there are bluetooth remotes that let you activate siri, I don't understand why the pebble watch can't add that functionality.
 
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Sort of off topic but if you do decide to resell your apple watch on craigslist it seems that the resell prices are dropping from $350+ to $350 and below. I've seen quite a few on sale around $300-$320.
 
I've used the watch for more than a week now. I like it now more than I initially did, but it is still going to be returned. I agree with your points, Quu. I've found that in my actual use of the watch the price just isn't justified, and this is for the $400 model. It's very, very nice looking. It's very comfortable. It works great with my iPhone.

But really, what it is seems to be a wearable notification manager that happens to double as a watch and shockingly basic fitness device. Calling it the 'sport' model is a complete misnomer. It also doesn't have that 'magic' that the first iPod or first iPhone had. I found the learning curve quite steep.

I'm a physician in a busy ER in manhattan. Getting notifications on my wrist is great. I spent less time looking at my phone for the notifications, which certainly helps during busy shifts. But the fact that I cannot actually act on the notifications I want to without using my phone almost completely kills the device for me. Obviously there's a limitation because of the screen size, but that means for $400 i'm getting a very passive device that seems to fill no real hole in my digital life.

If the sport model was $99 I would keep it in a heart beat. Its abilities just do not justify the cost. I'll likely go back to using my Garmin Forerunner as an everyday watch. It's lighter than the Apple Watch, does not do smartphone notifications, but is half the price, has a built in HR monitor on the wrist, has GPS, very easy to use UI, has battery life of 3-4 weeks, is waterproof to 50 meters, and is obviously more geared for running/fitness.
Interesting. Have you tried attaching voice messages to text messages? assuming these are the notifications you are referring to?

One of my friends sent me a text with voice directly from his watch - I really like that, since you're not limited to rote responses.

Unfortunately, my 2 month old SGS is malfunctioning and I cannot record voice messages! :(
Wondering how much time I will need to spend in the Apple Store in order to have it replaced.
 
Honestly I just don't think it's worth more than that. Having used it. People buying those expensive watches do so for fashion and style. Whilst the Apple Watch does look nice (especially the steel) I just can't see it in the same league as mechanical watches and I see it more like an electronic device that will be worthless in 12 months when everyone wants the latest version.

If each Apple Watch was made by hand or something then sure, but it's not. By the way you can get polished steel Android Wear watches for £150 so I don't think I'm that far off really.
Mid-end mass-produced Swiss stainless steel watches made by machine easily cost at minimum $1,000. I know because I have one (from a few years ago - Tissot). Prices climb much much higher by several thousand, again only steel, and these watches are still not hand-made.
 
I got my watch back in May and have been considering selling it off for a while. For right now I'm holding off until Apple's presser next week to see what types of native apps we might be able to expect with WatchOS 2 that might convince me to stick with it a little longer.

I've generally liked the watch, but I haven't loved it. Getting notifications on my wrist has been convenient, but the device overall has been unreliable (apps that never load data) to the point that it's been more annoying to use the watch than to fish my phone out of my pocket. I see the potential of where the watch can go, but it definitely wasn't ready for prime time.
 
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First, thanks.

My point was that I don't (seriously) understand some of the reasoning I've seen in this thread. I know people who researched the Watch... and then decided that it was useless for them/not worth getting at all. THAT makes perfect sense to me. Or people (like us) far away from a try-on location. Try it for a week or so, then "Meh... not really that useful for me." I totally get that.

Oh thank you jesus! Finally someone who mirrors my sentiments about this thread. There is something weird going on with the posters on this forum, for the reasons you've highlighted previously.

I just watched an unpacking video of the gold edition watch and as he was opening it he was saying "I'm not keeping this, just bought it to show you guys and will be returning it". I was just thinking, WTF!?!? You paid 10k on your credit card to make a you tube video just to return it? Blows my mind.

My theory is this - the device is first and foremost a watch. The returners must be non-watch people, they buy it and are then extremely disappointed it's primary function is telling the time. Forget 2nd, 3rd, even 10th generation, it will always be a watch so the suggestion generation 4 or 5 of the Apple watch will be better doesn't hold with me, better at what? Telling the time? Did the iPod 4th gen do a better job at playing music than the first gen iPod?

I've heard complaints about battery life, I put it on before I go to work, it's at around 80-75% when I get home 8 hours later. One can only assume the battery life drain is due to heavy use.

UI Lag, yeah it's a little delayed at times but not enough to throw your arms up in the air and return it out of frustration.

And I could go on...

Thank you for your insights Enygmatic, appreciate you taking the time to put some perspective on this thread.
 
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