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Forget 2nd, 3rd, even 10th generation, it will always be a watch

Is the iPhone still a phone? I have an iPhone and I hardly ever make phone calls on it. Sure, making phone calls is one of its functions, but I don't think that's the main reason to get an iPhone. And I feel the same way about the watch. Telling time isn't the reason you get a smart watch.

As for analyzing why people return the watch, a mod told us (https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-because-thread.1894177/page-18#post-21742257) that is off-topic for this thread.
 
Sort of off topic but if you do decide to resell your apple watch on craigslist it seems that the resell prices are dropping from $350+ to $350 and below. I've seen quite a few on sale around $300-$320.
I would not resell anything on Craigslist. Use ebay or some other service where people are in some way screened/verified. Surely, you have read the stories in the news the past few years of people being robbed, maimed, or murdered by criminals posing as buyers via CL? It's not worth the avoidance of a fee to possible lose the entire sale...or your life.
 
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Is the iPhone still a phone? I have an iPhone and I hardly ever make phone calls on it. Sure, making phone calls is one of its functions, but I don't think that's the main reason to get an iPhone. And I feel the same way about the watch. Telling time isn't the reason you get a smart watch.

As for analyzing why people return the watch, a mod told us (https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-because-thread.1894177/page-18#post-21742257) that is off-topic for this thread.

Yeah but in that post the admin claimed the poster was a hobby physiologist, but in fact he is a legitimate physiologist trying to analyse this thread.

I see what you've typed there, but it's primary function is as a phone. Why else do people carry them around with them all the time? So they can be contacted on the go.

Yes it does other things, but mate, can you tell me safari is any better now than it was on the iPhone 3G? It's still a web browser. Email, weather, messages, etc.

Back to on topic, people expecting gen 3+ of the Apple Watch to be the one that 'gets it right' are dreaming. It's a watch baby.

Unless people accept that, this thread is going to have a very long life.
 
Yeah but in that post the admin claimed the poster was a hobby physiologist, but in fact he is a legitimate physiologist trying to analyse this thread.

I see what you've typed there, but it's primary function is as a phone. Why else do people carry them around with them all the time? So they can be contacted on the go.

Yes it does other things, but mate, can you tell me safari is any better now than it was on the iPhone 3G? It's still a web browser. Email, weather, messages, etc.

Back to on topic, people expecting gen 3+ of the Apple Watch to be the one that 'gets it right' are dreaming. It's a watch baby.

Unless people accept that, this thread is going to have a very long life.

My understanding of the mod's message is that no matter the qualifications of the poster, we shouldn't be analyzing people's motivations in this thread.

As for the iPhone, sure, it's convenient that other people can reach me, but before I had the iPhone, I carried around an iPhone touch. So I find iOS devices convenient to carry around, even if other people can't reach me with them.

And if all you want is a watch, why would you get a smart watch over a regular watch? I maintain that a smart watch should, by definition, be more than a watch. And right now, a lot of people are finding the "more" part lacking, and hoping it will get better in the next few generations. And remember, the original iPhone had no App Store, no cut and paste, no 3G... I waited until the iPhone 4 before I bought one. And the watch now is in the same state as the original iPhone was. I expect it will be 3-4 generations before it is adopted by the masses.
 
lol @ talking down about people on their phone a lot while on a high horse with a second screen for your phone on your wrist
 
My understanding of the mod's message is that no matter the qualifications of the poster, we shouldn't be analyzing people's motivations in this thread.
...which is BS, anyway. People's motivations and decisions are questioned in just about every thread on here - ESPECIALLY if they speak on the Watch favorably in its rather limited capacity at the moment. It's a discussion forum. I was asking legitimate questions - where better to get them answered than from the actual ones saying they were returning their Watches? My questions were directed at the ones who - as I said - have been in every thread and article on MR covering the Watch, from Rumor 1 to each Keynote. "It doesn't do enough" or "It's stupid that I need my phone" - it's hard to believe that they didn't know that beforehand. But whatever. I wasn't "analyzing" anything; definitely not "talking down" to anyone. Hell, I didn't buy one. Mine was a gift.
I didn't introduce my posts with "As a clinical psychologist...", like I've seen a few in the IT and programming world do on here - I just asked a question. Then I was called (sarcastically) a hobby psychologist, and my response was simply "Well, actually..."

Please proceed with the thread.
 
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...which is BS, anyway. People's motivations and decisions are questioned in just about every thread on here - ESPECIALLY if they speak on the Watch favorably in its rather limited capacity at the moment. It's a discussion forum. I was asking legitimate questions - where better to get them answered than from the actual ones saying they were returning their Watches? My questions were directed at the ones who - as I said - have been in every thread and article on MR covering the Watch, from Rumor 1 to each Keynote. "It doesn't do enough" or "It's stupid that I need my phone" - it's hard to believe that they didn't know that beforehand. But whatever. I wasn't "analyzing" anything; definitely not "talking down" to anyone. Hell, I didn't buy one. Mine was a gift.
I didn't introduce my posts with "As a clinical psychologist...", like I've seen a few in the IT and programming world do on here - I just asked a question. Then I was called (sarcastically) a hobby psychologist, and my response was simply "Well, actually..."

Please proceed with the thread.

I did get that you were trying to be humorous in mentioning that you actually are a psychologist. Unfortunately, in this particular thread, it derailed the discussion. I don't think the mod meant to say we can't discuss people's motivations at all, just not in this particular thread. Some threads / subforums are sometimes declared a safe haven for particular viewpoints. For instance, the "alternate devices" subforum is for people who use or are interested in non-iOS mobile devices, and posts there questioning their device choice isn't allowed. I thought that by saying we shouldn't analyze people's motivations in returning the watch in this thread, the mod's were similarly making this thread a safe haven for people who are dissatisfied with the watch. Whether or not such "safe" thread is needed is a judgement call for the mods to make, and as forum members, we should abide by that.

I do think your question has merit, but the type of people who are posting "it didn't do enough" after having watched all the keynotes and read all the reviews aren't likely to be self-reflective enough to answer your question calmly and rationally. Most likely, they haven't actually watched the keynotes or read all the reviews. Or they watched / read without really taking in what they were being told. Or, they knew it would do certain things, but weren't sure exactly how that would work out. For instance, one of the things I had hoped to do with the watch was quickly checking the bus schedule on my wrist while I was walking down the street. For various reasons that isn't working out as well as I hoped, but watching the keynotes and reading reviews didn't let me know exactly how this would work out. I actually had to use it myself to find out the details. The watch does do other things well enough that I'm keeping it. And if I had decided to not keep the watch, and post about that here, I probably would write a long post explaining my reasons that would probably leave you satisfied as to why I got the watch, and why I returned it. People who don't explain themselves clearly in the first place probably won't provide a clearer explanation just because you ask them to. At least, that's been my experience.
 
My understanding of the mod's message is that no matter the qualifications of the poster, we shouldn't be analyzing people's motivations in this thread.

As for the iPhone, sure, it's convenient that other people can reach me, but before I had the iPhone, I carried around an iPhone touch. So I find iOS devices convenient to carry around, even if other people can't reach me with them.

And if all you want is a watch, why would you get a smart watch over a regular watch? I maintain that a smart watch should, by definition, be more than a watch. And right now, a lot of people are finding the "more" part lacking, and hoping it will get better in the next few generations. And remember, the original iPhone had no App Store, no cut and paste, no 3G... I waited until the iPhone 4 before I bought one. And the watch now is in the same state as the original iPhone was. I expect it will be 3-4 generations before it is adopted by the masses.

Comparing the Apple Watch to the first gen iPhone is a bit tough. At the time the iPhone was brand new thinking, gone were physical keyboards etc. In 2015 the maturity of the technology and software isn't from such a low base.

Anyway, my point is the 'more' part isn't going to change the opinions of the returners on this thread. Unless the new features perform some sexual activity then I'm sure this thread will disappear over night.

Think about it, most people that returned it knew the price(they paid for it), watched the videos and were aware of the features, heck they may have even tried one on in store but yet returned it. Blows my mind.

Which makes me think, what do Apple do with a returned Apple Watch? Surely they just can't package it up again and sell it to someone else?
 
Which makes me think, what do Apple do with a returned Apple Watch? Surely they just can't package it up again and sell it to someone else?
Most of the "returns" mentioned around here are simple "I didn't like it" scenarios, rather than a physical defect. If that's the case, Apple could easily check those, then brown-box them to use as refurbs. At least as far as my thinking goes. They don't really offer a Clearance Wall at Apple Stores, so I'd think they do that rather than trashing them.
 
Think about it, most people that returned it knew the price(they paid for it), watched the videos and were aware of the features, heck they may have even tried one on in store but yet returned it. Blows my mind.

Why do you find it hard to believe that seeing videos, reading reviews, and trying it on in stores is not enough to give people a full idea of what it's like to actually live with a watch? I knew going in that I wouldn't know if I wanted to keep the watch until I wore it for a few days. I just happened to decide to keep the watch, but my partner decided to return his. His reason was mainly "it doesn't do enough." I don't have time right now to list all his reasons, maybe I'll have time later to post more details.

They don't really offer a Clearance Wall at Apple Stores, so I'd think they do that rather than trashing them.

Apple does sell refurbed computer and devices in their online store. I expect we'll eventually see refurb watches sold by Apple.
 
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Why do you find it hard to believe that seeing videos, reading reviews, and trying it on in stores is not enough to give people a full idea of what it's like to actually live with a watch? I knew going in that I wouldn't know if I wanted to keep the watch until I wore it for a few days. I just happened to decide to keep the watch, but my partner decided to return his. His reason was mainly "it doesn't do enough." I don't have time right now to list all his reasons, maybe I'll have time later to post more details.



Apple does sell refurbed computer and devices in their online store. I expect we'll eventually see refurb watches sold by Apple.

Doesn't do enough. Lol. How could he not know what its capabilities were. Bet you he isn't a watch guy.

I'm sure you were shattered that you could not longer share heart beats when he returned it. Haha.
 
Doesn't do enough. Lol. How could he not know what its capabilities were. Bet you he isn't a watch guy.

I'm sure you were shattered that you could not longer share heart beats when he returned it. Haha.

I am confused. If he were a "watch guy" wouldn't that mean he'd be happy if a watch just told time? I think most "watch guys" are happy with the Apple watch because it tells time, plus it does a few extra stuff. It's the gadget guys who aren't happy because they feel the Apple watch doesn't do enough.

And no, I couldn't convince my partner to share heartbeats even when he had the watch. It was too corny for him. :(

But yeah, mainly his instinct was to try to talk to the watch, and when Siri didn't talk back or kept trying to handoff to the phone, that's when he decided it didn't "do enough."

And no, he didn't watch the keynotes or read all the reviews. He just heard Apple was coming out with a smart watch, and decided to try it. But he's also not posting on MacRumors saying "I returned my watch!" He's just not that interested in it either way.

My mom, on the other hand, inherited my partner's watch and is finding it very useful to help her be more active. I'm also finding the Activity features useful, plus hoping that watch OS 2 improves the watch apps so I can do more on my watch as opposed to pulling out my phone.

Anyway, my point remains, some people need to try things to find out if they are useful for them. Keynotes only present the product in the best possible light, and no reviewer will have the exact same set of needs/wants as you. Sure, doing the homework can give you a better idea of what to expect, but ultimately you don't know for certain until you actually try it for yourself.
 
Sold my apple watch sport 42mm on Craigslist over the weekend for $400 so basically just lost tax.

Wasn't expecting anybody to buy it at that price, but that's the least I was willing to take if selling it. Worked out.

I liked the watch. At the same time though, am thinking about trying to get away from iOS, take 11. will see what happens.
 
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I will be returning the 42 Steel back to best buy. Why? I cant justify $650 for this. Its cool but too expensive for me. I don't want the Sport because I don't like how it looks.
 
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I would not resell anything on Craigslist. Use ebay or some other service where people are in some way screened/verified. Surely, you have read the stories in the news the past few years of people being robbed, maimed, or murdered by criminals posing as buyers via CL? It's not worth the avoidance of a fee to possible lose the entire sale...or your life.

Honestly I've bought and sold most of the apple products I own from craigslist. Just ask a lot of questions and state up front to only meet in well lit, public places(starbucks).

Also EBAY also has additional fees you have to pay.
 
Honestly I've bought and sold most of the apple products I own from craigslist. Just ask a lot of questions and state up front to only meet in well lit, public places(starbucks).

Also EBAY also has additional fees you have to pay.

Well, it's true that I've only ever bought one item on CL, and that was years ago (how long ago? it was a Personal Digital Assistant! :)) )
I suppose that meeting in a public place should be safe enough. I just don't like that there is no safety net of any kind if purchasing this way.
 
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Well, it's true that I've only ever bought one item on CL, and that was years ago (how long ago? it was a Personal Digital Assistant! :)) )
I suppose that meeting in a public place should be safe enough. I just don't like that there is no safety net of any kind if purchasing this way.

True and I'd say that I've been pretty lucky in that my apple products haven't failed on me. Fortunately apple is pretty good about replacing faulty products for free or for a small fee.

Also with apple products the sellers seem to be pretty trustworthy for a lack of better words.
 
Hi All, I bought my Sport Watch from my nearest store in late july early august after i got the go ahead from the long haired boss (Mrs B). After 24hrs i was like "i think I'll take it back". At the time i couldn't see what it was adding to my day or daily routine (for £388!) albeit only 24hrs of owning it.
Fast forward to the live keynote i was watching 2 days ago and having posted on a social media apple watch page saying i'd took mine back for such reasons, the couple comments i received from others saying they intended to do the same but were glad they didn't, got me doubting whether i should've kept it. An hour later and....... "ermm i think i'll get another watch" , you can only imagine the look and face i received from the wife. However, i think i've added incentive to having one (this time round), having just bought my 3rd pair of beats headphones in the powerbeats2 wireless. This time round I've swan dived into it, having ordered a 42mm Sport in Black along with a nightstand dock and a 3rd party blue strap which i reckon will look nice with the black aluminum. Mad i know but i'll give it a decent chance this time.

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The logo was coming off my watch, Apple Customer Service rep declined replacing it and said it was "normal wear and tear". Then someone Cupertino called ... now ill be getting a new one kinda miss it now
 
had my apple watch for 2 hours then returned it , the concept is looking good but it didn't feel right when i wore it , it felt weird and i didn't like it maybe cause i have never worn a watch idk. i found the band really hard to get on my wrist. I will maybe try getting another one in a generation or two
 
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