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Gamestop employees are the WORST. I went to get ghosts yesterday for xbox one since they are selling it already, and the chick behind the register says "Are you sure you want it? Its not very good" ... ARENT YOU SUPOSED TO BE GETTING ME TO SPEND MONEY? :confused:

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I would appreciate her honesty. More salespeople should be like that.
 
The Xbox One should have support to view, delete, and record from a DVR. Like here in Canada, I have the Bell Satellite DVR, and I would love to hook it up to the Xbox One, but I wouldn't want to have to use the Bell Remote instead of the Xbox controller. That's why I'm currently leaning towards the PS4.
 
The Xbox One should have support to view, delete, and record from a DVR. Like here in Canada, I have the Bell Satellite DVR, and I would love to hook it up to the Xbox One, but I wouldn't want to have to use the Bell Remote instead of the Xbox controller. That's why I'm currently leaning towards the PS4.

Forgive me but thats kind of a silly reason to get a ps4. I don't think that the ps4 does anything as far as watching or recording tv. Both systems record GAMEPLAY for streaming or uploading. Its well known that the xbox controls your cable box and has a pretty elaborate guide system, but so far there has been no official talk of it controlling your tv dvr. I've read some reviews that say at this point it doesn't. That does not mean that it won't in the future via a software update, and while there's no guarantee that it ever will, if i had to bet on which system might, I'd have to say the xbox stands the best chance of someday controlling your tv's dvr.


If you're going to get a ps4, get one for its gaming abilities, not because the xbox doesn't control your dvr.
 
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Or her dishonesty... Has she played the xBox One version already, to make such a statement?

As mentioned, isn't it her job to sell products, not make editorial decisions?

I'm not sure that talking about a product is an editorial decision. When you talk to a salesman, they are supposed to know about the products. They shouldn't just be pushing product, which I'm sure most are instructed to do. "We've got a lot of product X. Let's move those!" Instead of..."Well, you sound like you don't need such a high end tv, try this one..." In this case, I would appreciate someone saying, "I played it. It doesn't stand up to the hype."

Why would you think this is dishonest? Why would she lie to NOT sell something?
 
I'm not sure that talking about a product is an editorial decision. When you talk to a salesman, they are supposed to know about the products. They shouldn't just be pushing product, which I'm sure most are instructed to do. "We've got a lot of product X. Let's move those!" Instead of..."Well, you sound like you don't need such a high end tv, try this one..." In this case, I would appreciate someone saying, "I played it. It doesn't stand up to the hype."

Why would you think this is dishonest? Why would she lie to NOT sell something?

As a former assistant manager at a few retail stores, salespeople are supposed to give an informed suggestion on products. In retail like elsewhere, there's a running joke... "Opinions are like elbows ( actually we refer to another singular piece of anatomy, but being respectful ), everyone has at least one." This isn't to say the opinion is correct, as it's just as likely you could ask another salesperson the same question and get a different response. That's why salespeople are asked to give suggestions, indicate that if they don't know a true answer to a customer's question, say they will ask someone who does. THAT's what keeps customers coming back, knowing the salespeople they are talking to are honest, and not seemingly working on a commission.

You NEVER discourage a customer from buying something, if they are intent on buying it. You may suggest that it may not fit their needs based on what they are looking for based on what they told you. The customer came and saw a copy of CoD Ghosts for the xBox One they are expecting to get. Unless that salesperson has spent time playing the game themselves for a period of time, it wasn't their place to say the game is good or bad on the One. That's fanboyism talking, and cost the store a sale. Something anyone will tell you, the store doesn't want.

I never said the salesperson lied. I questioned whether the salesperson had the experience to make such a statement. You're seemingly working under the assumption that all Gamestop employees have played games on both the PS4 & xBox One. My understanding is only managers have had such hands on time early. The salesperson never says they played the game, it's an inference being made by you that they have. At this point, there isn't a large number of people who have had much time with Ghosts on the One, that I'd trust just anyone's opinion.

What my salespeople would have said at worst, is "you may want to wait". "If you want the game now, don't open it yet, get the reviews, decide. If you don't open it, you can return it for a full refund." Gamestop's will also let you return an opened game within a week, if you haven't abused that service. Bottom line, customers decide if they buy a product, not the salesperson.
 
As a former assistant manager at a few retail stores, salespeople are supposed to give an informed suggestion on products. In retail like elsewhere, there's a running joke... "Opinions are like elbows ( actually we refer to another singular piece of anatomy, but being respectful ), everyone has at least one." This isn't to say the opinion is correct, as it's just as likely you could ask another salesperson the same question and get a different response. That's why salespeople are asked to give suggestions, indicate that if they don't know a true answer to a customer's question, say they will ask someone who does. THAT's what keeps customers coming back, knowing the salespeople they are talking to are honest, and not seemingly working on a commission.

You NEVER discourage a customer from buying something, if they are intent on buying it. You may suggest that it may not fit their needs based on what they are looking for based on what they told you. The customer came and saw a copy of CoD Ghosts for the xBox One they are expecting to get. Unless that salesperson has spent time playing the game themselves for a period of time, it wasn't their place to say the game is good or bad on the One. That's fanboyism talking, and cost the store a sale. Something anyone will tell you, the store doesn't want.

I never said the salesperson lied. I questioned whether the salesperson had the experience to make such a statement. You're seemingly working under the assumption that all Gamestop employees have played games on both the PS4 & xBox One. My understanding is only managers have had such hands on time early. The salesperson never says they played the game, it's an inference being made by you that they have. At this point, there isn't a large number of people who have had much time with Ghosts on the One, that I'd trust just anyone's opinion.

What my salespeople would have said at worst, is "you may want to wait". "If you want the game now, don't open it yet, get the reviews, decide. If you don't open it, you can return it for a full refund." Gamestop's will also let you return an opened game within a week, if you haven't abused that service. Bottom line, customers decide if they buy a product, not the salesperson.

Your words "or her dishonesty" made me think you said she was lying.

All I said was it should be refreshing to hear a salesman not just ring someone up but offer advice that might actually kill that one sale. But if a salesman is that honest, and saved me from a bad purchase, you can bet I would make sure I would shop there more.
 
I would appreciate her honesty. More salespeople should be like that.

You're splitting hairs to further the discussion in your favor.

'Or her dishonesty' was in direct reference to your assumption that she had an informed judgement. You said you would appreciate her honesty, believing she had played the game some time and could make an informed call. I did not say she lied. I have referred that I don't know if she is lying or telling the truth. I have stated she shouldn't say either way, just sell the game if the customer wanted it, and assure them that the store will do all they can if the customer thought it was a bad choice for them.

While you may appreciate hearing a salesperson's opinion on something without knowing what's it based on. The company and store manager may feel differently. Also any customer who doesn't share their opinion towards a game or system, may not want to deal with that salesperson. Salespeople are to remain neutral and provide a service while on the job.
 
You're splitting hairs to further the discussion in your favor.

'Or her dishonesty' was in direct reference to your assumption that she had an informed judgement. You said you would appreciate her honesty, believing she had played the game some time and could make an informed call. I did not say she lied. I have referred that I don't know if she is lying or telling the truth. I have stated she shouldn't say either way, just sell the game if the customer wanted it, and assure them that the store will do all they can if the customer thought it was a bad choice for them.

While you may appreciate hearing a salesperson's opinion on something without knowing what's it based on. The company and store manager may feel differently. Also any customer who doesn't share their opinion towards a game or system, may not want to deal with that salesperson. Salespeople are to remain neutral and provide a service while on the job.

I said I would appreciate her honesty. Your posts just refer to what her management wants to do.

And no: thinking the words "her dishonesty" means you think she is lying is not splitting hairs.
 
Forgive me but thats kind of a silly reason to get a ps4. I don't think that the ps4 does anything as far as watching or recording tv. Both systems record GAMEPLAY for streaming or uploading. Its well known that the xbox controls your cable box and has a pretty elaborate guide system, but so far there has been no official talk of it controlling your tv dvr. I've read some reviews that say at this point it doesn't. That does not mean that it won't in the future via a software update, and while there's no guarantee that it ever will, if i had to bet on which system might, I'd have to say the xbox stands the best chance of someday controlling your tv's dvr.


If you're going to get a ps4, get one for its gaming abilities, not because the xbox doesn't control your dvr.

No, that's was just one of the features that appealed to me the most. I doubt that they would add that feature in a software update, it's more of a hardware problem. These systems are so close in terms of hardware, so the little things really do matter when choosing between the two, and since the PS4 has some of my favourite exclusives, and since the biggest thing for me that the Xbox One had going for it was the ability to essentially use the Xbox as my only entertainment device, I'm going to go with the PS4.
 
Is it overkill to have two systems in one household so soon after release?

I was considering buying one for the hell of it with Forza 5, Dead Rising 3 and AC. Maybe COD or BF4 too. Turns out my brother has a Day 1 edition confirmed for release with the same games :eek:(great minds and all that).

Only problem is that he doesn't really share :p
 
No, that's was just one of the features that appealed to me the most. I doubt that they would add that feature in a software update, it's more of a hardware problem. These systems are so close in terms of hardware, so the little things really do matter when choosing between the two, and since the PS4 has some of my favourite exclusives, and since the biggest thing for me that the Xbox One had going for it was the ability to essentially use the Xbox as my only entertainment device, I'm going to go with the PS4.

I can respect anyone's reasons for getting one system or the other, but my point was that the one reason u mentioned for not getting an xbox is in fact something that could come later, and is the next logical step. I do believe that it is in fact, a question of the software. If they've made such an effort to integrate control of the cable box (which is controlled via software), then the next step would be to have it control the dvr functionality of the box. It's just communicating with the box and overlaying the nice xbox GUI on the screen instead of the guide from the cable box. To my understanding it uses an IR blaster to control the box's settings. So, why couldn't it control the dvr functionality as well? I would imagine the wide variety of cable boxes from different providers presented a small hurdle during their crunch time leading up to official release. If it can control my cable box to change channels, set reminders, and change settings, it can control the same box's dvr. It just can't do it YET. Maybe that's wishful thinking, but it could just be a software update away.
 
I've preordered zero games so far but looks like I'll be getting Dead Rising 3


I'm hoping in 6 - 12 months it'll be released on PS4 as GOTY edition or such. Really it's the only game I'd be interested in playing on the XB1 despite the technical hiccups that accompany all launch titles.

A revised edition sorting out frame-rate and other anomalies in the Summer next year during the normal summer drought season of gaming would be well timed.
 
I'm hoping in 6 - 12 months it'll be released on PS4 as GOTY edition or such. Really it's the only game I'd be interested in playing on the XB1 despite the technical hiccups that accompany all launch titles.

I have no clue what launch titles to get so I'm waiting for reviews to trickle out. DR3 looks good. I thought Ryse was gonna be good but that review embargo until the day before bothers me

I'd have picked up NBA2K but with NBA Live rebooting, I'm holding out for the 5% chance Live turns out to be better.
 
I have no clue what launch titles to get so I'm waiting for reviews to trickle out. DR3 looks good. I thought Ryse was gonna be good but that review embargo until the day before bothers me

I'd have picked up NBA2K but with NBA Live rebooting, I'm holding out for the 5% chance Live turns out to be better.

Live sucks.

Got a terrible rating
 
As mentioned, isn't it her job to sell products, not make editorial decisions?

Selling is part of her job, yes. But the best salesperson is one who can help you make the best choices in your purchasing plans. Sometimes, that means suggesting you not buy something.

The last thing we want is for employees at shops to be mindless, apathetic and unknowledgeable about the products that they are selling. Do you/we really want employees to be just simple tools that facilitate the purchase transaction and nothing else? Or do we want people who are actually familiar with what they are selling? People who know their products. The positives, the negatives. People who can let you know if something is flawed or isn’t good…or conversely, if some other option may better fit our needs/wants. The best store employees can help us from making potentially poor decisions, save us from disappointment, save us money and introduce us to better options.

No, sir. Employees should have the freedom to make “editorial decisions” and comments. The last thing we want are employees who know that something is poor/flawed/not worth buying and that warn us.
 
I have no clue what launch titles to get so I'm waiting for reviews to trickle out. DR3 looks good. I thought Ryse was gonna be good but that review embargo until the day before bothers me

I'd have picked up NBA2K but with NBA Live rebooting, I'm holding out for the 5% chance Live turns out to be better.

Ryse from the 20+ minute play through I watched on IGN yesterday looks pretty (in a grim way) but my god the constant hack slash finish thing got monotonous to the point of painful. I am expecting 5/10 style scores from what I watched.

Always questionable when companies put embargoes practically up to the day of release on a game.
 
I have no clue what launch titles to get so I'm waiting for reviews to trickle out. DR3 looks good. I thought Ryse was gonna be good but that review embargo until the day before bothers me

gameplay wise i think DR3 will be the better game but i think DR3 was rushed since quite a few reviewers are noting performance problems with lots of zombies on screen

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-dead-rising-3

as MacRumorUser said i think a few months down the line with 2-3 patches it will a better experience

Crytek(Ryse) are true game engine wizards so from the technical standpoint i would rather get Ryse now and DR3 later

edit: always considering you like the gameplay from both, obviously
 
Live sucks.

Got a terrible rating

lol.... 2K it is then

Always questionable when companies put embargoes practically up to the day of release on a game.

I don't get this either. I'm hoping it's not a tech demo pretending to be a AAA title.

Crytek(Ryse) are true game engine wizards so from the technical standpoint i would rather get Ryse now and DR3 later

I usually splurge on launch games but this time I'm just going for 1-2 games that actually feel next-gen. Plus an NBA game because that's what I do every year
 
Forza reviews are out and mostly looking good!

Looks like it might be the best retail launch title so far - good for them!
 
heh, they had extras this late in the game? That can't be good in the big picture.

I believe it was a similar case with the PS4 last week. They opened up last minute launch consoles for it as well. I think it's more of Amazon just holding some back on purpose, or M$ trying to get some more sales.
 
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