Yep, the Yanks definitely do need a replacement closer and I don't see anyone with that kinda caliber in the bullpen at the moment. I figure Mo may go for another 2 years, so they need to get a replacement in order soon..
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Trying to steer this thread away from being Yankee-centric... Victor Martinez to the Tigers, 4/$50... source:
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/11/tigers-reach-agreement-with-victor-martinez.html
I think it's a good deal considering the Tigers needs... I could see him getting about 60% of the starts at C, with the rest of his starts split between DH and 1B, favoring DH over 1B just to spell Miggy.
Now, Dombrowski go out there and pull in some depth at SP (Brandon McCarthy? Brandon Webb?), and one of Crawford or Dunn and I would call that a successful off-season.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/11/tigers-reach-agreement-with-victor-martinez.html
I think it's a good deal considering the Tigers needs... I could see him getting about 60% of the starts at C, with the rest of his starts split between DH and 1B, favoring DH over 1B just to spell Miggy.
Now, Dombrowski go out there and pull in some depth at SP (Brandon McCarthy? Brandon Webb?), and one of Crawford or Dunn and I would call that a successful off-season.
Ummmm am I sorry did you just say Cano is more valuable and a better player than Miguel Cabrera?
I thought it could've been a tossup between Cabrera and Hamilton to be honest.
The Yankees might have just ****ed themselves here.
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5843151
The Giants are bringing back Aubrey Huff. 2 years, $22 mil with a third year option, matching an offer made by another team. Good. I thought he was a smart pickup last season, but for just $3 mil he was the biggest bargain in baseball in 2010. I hope he's playing LF by 2012 because that means Brandon Belt will have taken over 1B.
Bringing back Juan Uribe may prove tougher. Not a lot of good SS options out on the free agent market so there'll be a lot of competition for his signature.
Bringing back Juan Uribe may prove tougher. Not a lot of good SS options out on the free agent market so there'll be a lot of competition for his signature.
Ugh. I hate that this is going to get ugly. But I just can't imagine any scenario where DJ doesn't end up with the Yankees. He can't get the same kind of $$ (especially where endorsements are concerned. It's one thing to be the face of the Yankees...but being the face of (name a team) won't be worth half as much for him) anywhere else.
I can understand where the Yankees must feel they are backed up against the wall in terms of how much they want to pay him. I just wish this can be wrapped up quickly and quietly. Which obviously isn't going to happen.
The damage is already done, Cashman just about insulted Jeter when he said if you think you can do better and you leave fine. Jeter thinks he is being underpaid for all he has done for the team. Hell he is the team. The Yankees should be bending over backwards to give him what he wants. A team that can just throw around money like its candy that over pays for everyone won't pony up the extra cash to pay its most beloved player?
From what I hear, it isn't so much the money, but it's the length. The Yankees don't want to offer him anymore then 3 years. He wants a 6 year deal, but would settle for 4-5 years. If he had a good season, I think the Yankees would oblige. But, he had a bad season so the Yankees are concerned it is nothing, but down from here. They don't want to lock him in a super long contract. No team is going to offer a 36 year old shortstop a 4-6 year deal. He'll be lucky to get 2 years from other teams.
Yet they give their pitchers 3 years longer than they should. We know what Jeter has meant to the team and all the rings he helped us get. Burnett is getting 80 million and he only pitched one playoff game this year.
It's official, Vazquez is out of here! Off to the Marlins he goes. Now to get Lee, get Pettitte to pitch one more season, and deal with Sucknett.....
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp..._id=16219032&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp..._id=16219032&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
the yankees should just sign every all star in the league. make their payroll $600 million. who cares about competitive balance? we should just give the yankees the world series every year.
this is why baseball is ****ing stupid.
Baseball is stupid because a team is doing everything it can to build the best team possible?
As shown in the past decade, it doesn't mean the Yankees will win a WS every year. I don't expect them to. What I do expect them to do is build a winning team that has the potential to get a WS every year like any fan of any team should expect their team to do.
But, it doesn't mean I want the Yankees to be ridiculous. I want Jeter to be resigned, but not at 4-6 years at $23 million per year rumors are saying he wants. I would settle for 3 years at $18 million with a club option for a 4th year and that is still being generous( the Yankees initial offer for 3 yrs/ $15 million was generous as well) for a declining 37 year old SS. With Mo, I don't have a problem giving him $18 million a year. He is still performing like his usual self. I would do a 1 year contract at $18 million with a club option for a second year. But, wouldn't be too concerned if the Yankees gave in and gave him 2.
None of that makes any difference. Burnett was a mistake, one mistake doesn't justify another. Jeter is replacement-level at best defensively, and has been for years. By all means, please sign him to a mega-deal...the rest of the league will love NY for it. But if you actually want to build the best team possible, it'd be crazy to give Jeter a long-term deal. Judge a player for what he can do, not for what he has done in the past. He's been well compensated for his efforts already.
Gawd.
This is why people (okay, I) hate the Yankees.
Jeter is your icon, he is the one of the few players in the game today who has worn only one uniform in his career, he is your World Series MVP, your captain, and brings in multi-millions of dollars in endorsements and advertising revenues... and this is how you treat him?
I honestly hope that that Jeter leaves, gets his 3000th hit in a Dodgers uniform and becomes just one of a handful of players in the history of the game to get 3500 hits... again, not in a Yankees uniform. Anyone remember Paul Molitor? If Steinbrenner were still alive, do you think Jeter would be getting the shaft like he is now? For your sakes, Jeter... just sign with the Dodgers and stick it to the Yankees. Would love to see that (not because I like the Dodgers).
Just sign Cliff Lee already to a 6/$150 million deal and leave the rest of us to fight over the scraps.
This is why people (okay, I) hate the Yankees.
Jeter is your icon, he is the one of the few players in the game today who has worn only one uniform in his career, he is your World Series MVP, your captain, and brings in multi-millions of dollars in endorsements and advertising revenues... and this is how you treat him?
I honestly hope that that Jeter leaves, gets his 3000th hit in a Dodgers uniform and becomes just one of a handful of players in the history of the game to get 3500 hits... again, not in a Yankees uniform. Anyone remember Paul Molitor? If Steinbrenner were still alive, do you think Jeter would be getting the shaft like he is now? For your sakes, Jeter... just sign with the Dodgers and stick it to the Yankees. Would love to see that (not because I like the Dodgers).
Just sign Cliff Lee already to a 6/$150 million deal and leave the rest of us to fight over the scraps.
Bite your tongue! That would mean that the Dodgers offered more in years and dollars than the Yankees, which would blow up their payroll at a time when no one knows who will be owning the team a year from now. That would be a complete disaster even if Jeter played fairly well, which I doubt he will.
Hehe.
He has connections in LA, through Joe Torre and now Don Mattingly. Don't forget also that he is represented by Creative Arts(?) agency, so he could do quite well marketing-wise, if not at the same level as in NYC, possibly even a bit better if he started in TV/Movies.
I'll admit that I'm a bit biased towards Jeter because he is from Kalamazoo, MI and I went to Kalamazoo College for undergrad.
I just think that the way Cashman and the Yankees are handling this negotiation will reflect badly on them... you're basically telling your franchise icon that he should go F himself. Look back to how the Orioles treated Ripken and the Royals treated Brett... you just don't treat a franchise icon that way, IMO. Will there come a time when the Yankees -should- part ways with Jeter? Of course, but Jeter still has a couple good years left in him, at least offensively, I think.
Juan Uribe to the Dodgers. Three years, $21 million. Too much for too long. And whose position does he take over, Casey Blake? Rafael Furcal? Or will he be a very well-paid super sub?
Now the question is, who do the Giants get to play shortstop for them? Maybe Derek Jeter, since this is a Yankees thread after all.
Now the question is, who do the Giants get to play shortstop for them? Maybe Derek Jeter, since this is a Yankees thread after all.
Hehe.Juan Uribe to the Dodgers. Three years, $21 million. Too much for too long. And whose position does he take over, Casey Blake? Rafael Furcal? Or will he be a very well-paid super sub?
Now the question is, who do the Giants get to play shortstop for them? Maybe Derek Jeter, since this is a Yankees thread after all.
All Cashman said was go test the market because the Yankees made a generous offer at 3 years/ $15 million a season. No team is going to match that for a 37 year old declining SS off a bad year. If this was 2009, Jeter would have more control and could get his 4-5 years and $23 million per season. But, he is coming off a career low and no team wants a 42 year old SS especially at $23 million. If Jeter makes anything north of $20 million a season and longer then 4 years( that 4th year being a club option), Jeter is being greedy. I don't care if he is the icon of the franchise. It doesn't mean he can hold the Yankees hostage making ridiculous requests. Like I said above, I see them settling at $18 million per season for 3 seasons with a club option for a 4th year. That is more then fair and better then any other team will offer him.
Jeter needs to be more like Mo. Mo is being quiet about his free agency and is being reasonable in wanting a 2 year deal considering his performance hasn't dropped yet. The Yankees will most likely sign him for $18 million for one year with a club option for a 2nd. But, I will not be upset if it is a 2 year deal.
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