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Samsung makes some good (looking) hardware
I personally think the note 10 makes the iPhone XS Max and soon Iphone 11 look dated but unfortunately it’s not the look that of a phone that makes it usable. It’s the software. As good as it looks it’s still android with a Qualcomm cpu. Put an a13 and iOS 13 in a body that looks like that and wow. Even with all the improvements in android at the end of the day it just can’t measure up to the smoothness and polish of iOS. If you compare the core functions of the os iOS just does it better. Sure Samsung adds some cool bells and whistles but they are mostly gimmicks and useless. In screen fingerprint reader. Awesome concept not nearly as secure as Face ID or even iPhone 8 style Touch ID. Software is what makes a phone and Apple just makes better software.

I partly agree, in the sense of refinement and feel, yes iOS is superior. But there are just so many great features in Android that we would benefit if Apple bring them to iOS, multitasking is one of them, picture-in-picture video, better customization, home screen organization options, default app selection.

Sure iOS 13 brings the system to a new (well-requested) level, but there are still lots of things that Android does better.
 
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When they come to the iPhone they're implemented properly. The depth sensor will actually work properly, the 5G modem will be efficient enough to be usable, the Apple pencil has the latency and pressure/tilt sensors to make it useful as a real drawing tool.

Ahh when Apple is late to a feature, it's just them taking the time to make better. When Samsung is late, then it's just Samsung copy and paste.
 
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..poorly, the scanner is not always reliable and fingerprint data is stored in a folder in the file system, not a secure hardware enclave.

Can you provide a reference for this, especially for the more recent phones since 2018?
 
I just switch over to the Note 10+ and all I can say is the phone is amazing. The phone and OS is buttery smooth. Android is actually very similar to ios so it's very easy for me to getting used to it. I've used iphones since the first one came out but got really bored of it lately, also I really hate the notch. Some of you guys keep talking smack about Samsung and android should try one out to see how great it is. Even if you're a diehard Apple fanboy, you could still appreciate great things not made by Apple.
 
Picked mine up today. This thing is BEAUTIFUL!!! I think I will hold on to it for a long long time.

I've had the iphone since the original launch up to the iphone 6. Switched to the s8 then the note 8, s10+ and now the note10+. Apparently I switched at the right time with the death of touch wiz.

I don't think I can go back to an iphone or even another android device. Samsung's design and features on top of android is amazing.
 
Apple is slated to reuse the same housing 3 years running and have an ugly AF camera bump square looking thing, and *still* maintaining the notch.

I believe this is because Cook has become insanely obsessed with shareholder value. They spend lots on R&D, but where is the fruit of that investment? Of course, we have the reliable Tim Cook go-to line: "We have lots of incredible products in the pipeline." I do hope that some day they are able to wow me again. I miss the long ago days of exciting Apple product launches.
 
no but i imagine getting one of these case that has a back kick, or place it on a ledge.
if you took that kind of thing better buy a real DSLR
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Picked mine up today. This thing is BEAUTIFUL!!! I think I will hold on to it for a long long time.

I've had the iphone since the original launch up to the iphone 6. Switched to the s8 then the note 8, s10+ and now the note10+. Apparently I switched at the right time with the death of touch wiz.

I don't think I can go back to an iphone or even another android device. Samsung's design and features on top of android is amazing.
hold it for a long time like your S10+? you switched at the right time with the death of touch wiz? but you had also S8 and note 8...so you contradict yourself so...hmmm why are you lying to us?
 
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I agree. Everyone seems to be freaking out and loving it but it just looks cheap to me. Maybe it looks better in person?

Exactly what’s been said in the probably 20 reviews I’ve read. Everything I’ve seen says it looks much different in person than photos/videos. Misty just seems reflective/silver from when I checked it out at a Best Buy a week ago, since they’ve had the demo units since the Notes were announced.
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All gimmick features that Samsung will forget about the next year and won't take their time to improve.
Right. S-Pen. Gimmick?
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if you took that kind of thing better buy a real DSLR
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hold it for a long time like your S10+? you switched at the right time with the death of touch wiz? but you had also S8 and note 8...so you contradict yourself so...hmmm why are you lying to us?
Clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. Touch wiz was reformed and changed to “Samsung Experience” several years ago, as in around the time of the S8...
if you took that kind of thing better buy a real DSLR
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hold it for a long time like your S10+? you switched at the right time with the death of touch wiz? but you had also S8 and note 8...so you contradict yourself so...hmmm why are you lying to us?
Touchwiz died around the time the S8 came out, went to “Samsung Experience” and now OneUI...
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Friend's device a year ago, in the store for 20 minutes waiting on someone a couple months ago... It's not as smooth, don't care for the layout, and the hardware itself feels cheap and like plastic... Oh wait a minute, it WAS plastic on some of it and the rest of the materials just felt low quality.
Ok? Which model? Any idea? Could have only been what, 100 different phones. If it was plastic and a year ago your “friend” had a really low end Android or an older one. They’ve been “glass sandwiches” longer than iPhones
 
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Samsung makes some good (looking) hardware
I personally think the note 10 makes the iPhone XS Max and soon Iphone 11 look dated but unfortunately it’s not the look that of a phone that makes it usable. It’s the software. As good as it looks it’s still android with a Qualcomm cpu. Put an a13 and iOS 13 in a body that looks like that and wow. Even with all the improvements in android at the end of the day it just can’t measure up to the smoothness and polish of iOS. If you compare the core functions of the os iOS just does it better. Sure Samsung adds some cool bells and whistles but they are mostly gimmicks and useless. In screen fingerprint reader. Awesome concept not nearly as secure as Face ID or even iPhone 8 style Touch ID. Software is what makes a phone and Apple just makes better software.

I agree, but minus the cost of hardware incorporated in an iPhone (less RAM, smaller, lower res screens, less storage etc.), IOS is costing users probably > $500 premium over Android. Is the software really that much better?
 
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hold it for a long time like your S10+? you switched at the right time with the death of touch wiz? but you had also S8 and note 8...so you contradict yourself so...hmmm why are you lying to us?

I knew I wanted another note after owning the note 8 but I didn't want to wait until aug. for the note 10. I just love the rectangular shape. So I got the s10+ because that is a beautiful phone too. The note is special, and to me it's the shape. S-pen is useful to sketch ideas before working on my mac (I'm a UI Designer).

I may be wrong but touch whiz was killed with the launch of the s8 when it was called the samsung experience? I've heard terrible things about touch whiz and I was afraid to switch to android after being with apple for about 10 yrs.

I've set up gestures so the size of the note 10+ is not an issue and I still baffle retailers who say "we don't have apple pay":):):):):)
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I agree, but minus the cost of hardware incorporated in an iPhone (less RAM, smaller, lower res screens, less storage etc.), IOS is costing users probably > $500 premium over Android. Is the software really that much better?

I love the samsung skin, and I've customized it to how I like it. Can't do that with an iphone.
 
Lots of angry Apple fans in this thread, LOL. Samsung adds new features to their devices every year. Apple re-uses the same design for 3-4 release cycles to cut costs and rarely adds a thing. That’s just how it is - worse under Cook, but was the same with Jobs. Part of the reason iPhone sales are tanking.
What really new or interesting feature other than maybe the video one did Samsung add to the Note this year? If Apple releases a phone as incremental as this phone, Android fanboys will be all over Apple.
 
I bought one. The regular one. And No, I am not switching. I will keep the iPhone X around for another year until the new re-design.
I love the Note 10 so far, particularly the display. The camera is OK, nothing to be crazy about, I like the wide-angle camera. I bought the black one, didn't like the other one with glowing colors. I don't think I will use the pen that much to be honed. And Android is still Android. Billions of options, poorly implemented.
I think I will keep this one until September 2020, it's a pretty good phone and love it that Samsung has found its own way on design without having to copy Apple.
 

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first time i'm considering a stylus, i can see that camera function on the stylus be very useful. no need to ask for anyone to take a picture for you.
That’s assuming in all the situations you ask people to take a picture for you there’s going to be a place to lean your phone against while you use the S-Pen to take a photo. The phone doesn’t hang in the air, for example, when you’re at the beach, on a tour of the city, or hiking in the forest, you know that?
 
My 2 cents:

Awesome device. If only they hadn't removed the headphone jack!

It's interesting to see how may here are saying that iOS is easier to use than Android. It isn't. Not for those who have not been already entrenched in iOS for a while. iOS users underestimate how much of a learning curve it has. Android (at least, Sammy's version--the only one I've used) is much, much more PC-like.

I've been a Note user since the Note3, and currently use a Note8. So far, the ONLY thing I've EVER wanted that iPhone has is the ability to take calls from my Macs. I've gotten many features WAY before iPhone since then, and my Note8 still outpaces iPhone in how I use it. I don't get the hate for TouchWiz (or whatever it's called now).

Given that I NEED to be cross-platform (I use a company-issued Windows machine for work), I use third-party apps for pretty much everything. Samsung gets the basics right though: the Mail, Messages, Calendar, Camera apps are both easy to use and to set up. Apple only plays really well with itself (iMessage is a great example). And their Mail app is simply ATROCIOUS.

Also, the S-Pen is really useful for me when in split-screen mode or when I have to use a non-mobile site, as it provides more precision.

All that said, I'm simple, older, don't text much, and don't feel like learning a new, unintuitive-to-a-longtime-Sammy-user OS. I really don't spend much time on my phone. I'm in and out. I'm too busy to keep my face in that thing like my kids do. And I'm not a Post-PC type: I like (real) filesystem access, floating windows, real multitasking, plug-and-play, and mouse support.

Thus, while there are clear advantages to each platform based on user preference, for me I'd rather iOS be more Android or PC-like than the other way around.
 
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When they come to the iPhone they're implemented properly. The depth sensor will actually work properly, the 5G modem will be efficient enough to be usable, the Apple pencil has the latency and pressure/tilt sensors to make it useful as a real drawing tool.

That still doesn’t make them not a gimmick just because they work correctly. If Samsung tries something new it’s a gimmick but when apple takes and implements it now all of a sudden it’s not a gimmick anymore and it’s the best thing since sliced bread.

At least Samsung and other phone manufacturers are trying new things and new designs. If it doesn’t work they try something else. Apple has stuck to the same designs for YEARS and barely release anything new. Just slightly improved version from the previous year. Nothing ground breaking. Sure apple products are nice and everything works so smoothly but they really gotta start coming out with more of a wow factor. I mean really how long did it take them to get wireless charging? When that was out for how many years already? It took apple THAT long to get it right when there was nothing wrong with it to begin with.

I wish I could find that post of a poster that said wireless charging was a gimmick and there would never be a use for it. Lol. Apple put it in their phones and the same poster said it’s the best thing ever. Haha.

If you really look at the last 3 yrs Samsung has been coming out with some amazing things and apple is taking the same things and finally putting them on their phone a year or 2 later


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It's all about software. It doesn't matter if CPU of iPhone XS is a bit faster, if apps are missing.
 
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Not going into the iOS vs. Android discussion, but here some thoughts from a Note 10+ 5G owner (Note's my work phone, XS Max my private phone):

- it's FAST. I was able to test the S10+ through my employer previous to this and it was laggy at times (talking about the Exyxnos version here). Been using the Note for a few days now and there are absolutely no slow-downs. The experience is just as fast and pleasant as on the iPhone

- The screen (at least if you set it to max resolution) is extremely beautiful. The small punch-hole cutout is much less annoying than the iPhone's.

- The camera (software, I suppose) has been updated considerably compared with the S10+ and shoots fantastic photos both in low-light and normal lighting situations. Night mode has now caught up with the Pixel's. Definitely shoots better exposed, sharper images than my XS Max and offers better dynamic range. The stabiliser used for videos is phenomenal.

- The article mentions that the fingerprint reader is comparable in accuracy to that of the S10+. I disagree. It's considerably faster and works about as fast and reliable as that on pre-FaceID iPhones. The S10+ had decent accuracy for me, but it took its time to unlock.

- I get much faster WiFi speeds on this than on the iPhone and the Samsung tends to choose the 5ghz network consistently, while my iPhone still clings to the slower 2.4ghz 5 out of 10 times. I also get faster LTE speeds on the Samsung.

- It charges super fast (and no, I don't have the fast charger).

- It has USB-C (keeping my fingers crossed for the iPhone 11 Pro here)

- The pencil is very cool. I need it for work (OneNote). Latency is a tad higher than on the iPad Pro, but hey, it's a phone and it's still very much usable. Handwriting to text is like magic on that thing. I have terrible handwriting and it still somehow extracts text almost perfectly.

- It has 5G. I know, not a fair comparison, but it's a fact. It'll be painful for Apple having to make its customers wait another full year until they can buy 5G phones from them. We'll have 90% coverage here in Switzerland by the end of the year, so 5G capability is a very good thing in this case.

- Battery life is excellent too. Prob a bit better than on the XS Max. But of course, I've had the latter for almost a year now and the battery might already have degraded slightly.


Overall, it's really hard to say anything bad about it. If you're in a Microsoft work environment, it's the phone to get. Samsung has done away with its own E-Mail client and has made Outlook standard on the Note. A very good decision in my opinion. Overall, except for the calendar app that still there, there are no annoying pre-installs and the pen-apps that come with it all make sense. It's not a confusing mess anymore. Very straight-forward software experience.


Would I want it as my home phone? Not at this time. The reason for that is simple: I'm fully invested in the Apple ecosystem. I love my Apple Watch, I love my iMac and my iPad Pro, my homepods and HomeKit. If Android fit in with that ecosystem, I would def take the Note over the XS Max. It's just a more capable package in my opinion. But then, there's a reason why Apple doesn't support Android, isn't there :)
 
When I see fellow iPhone users bash Android/Samsung over things that iPhone has and then belittle it makes me cringe. I witness an iPhone vs Android debate in Barnes and Noble over two years ago. The guy arguing for iPhone was taking a proverbial crap on Android for the very thing iPhone had and has. How is 5G gimmicky when it is a freaking network that will be rolled out? It's not a specific feature that the phone or Samsung has. Smarten up! The fingerprint sensor is quite responsive if you watch the videos of it being used.

If I am being honest after reading MANY of the comments on this forum, I can see why some if not many Android users all but loathe iPhone users over their logic(or lack there of).

It's dumb and embarrassing both ways. Neither Apple or Google care about you... Apple wants your money Google wants your data.
 
So far, the ONLY thing I've EVER wanted that iPhone has is the ability to take calls from my Macs.

Google Voice has been doing that for ages plus a lot more and it's cross platform. Sign up for Google Voice number(s) or port mobile carrier # to Google Voice. Sign into hangouts.google.com or voice.google.com on Chrome browser on computer and make/take calls, send/receive SMS/MMS, listen to voicemail/read transcription, do Hangouts video calls and messaging. Add the same capabilities to Android and iOS devices by installing Hangouts Dialer and Hangouts on Android and Hangouts on iOS. It works over any data so if you're near WIFI all the time you can eliminate carrier plan and home POTS line.
 
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