Sidebar Sidebar
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming

Count Blah said:
You made Tim smile.

He FORCED you to move up Cha-ching Mac ladder, with a better $$$ return for Apple.
Click to expand...

philipma1957 said:
Moved to an iMac = Apple wins you lose.

Steve Cook could come to my home with 2 iMac's maxed as best as they can be for free and I would show him the door.
I am deeply saddened that you cracked and got that iMac. I am typing on a basic 2014 with 4gb ram.
I have a 2011mini with the gpu I have a 2012 i5 mini.

Most of my net typing and blog writing is with the macs.
But I moved on. I have android not iPhone due to Apple's desktop attitude.
I have a lenevo m700 tiny with an i7 6700 32gb ram and a 500gb ssd.
For a lot better experience. then any mac mini.

I come to the mini section 1 or 2 times a week with mixed feelings. Since Apple did destroy the mini I stopped selling souped up mining on eBay and started mining coins. Apple's idiocy has made me good money in the world of crypto coins .
Not that they wanted this for me. but it turned out this way. But I rather have a 12 minis in my clean room waiting for me to mod them it was a bit more fun for me.
Click to expand...

Yeah, I'm the loser. I have a computer that works well, can handle whatever I throw at it, and I am happy with it. It will last me a good number of years into the future.

I get it that you both are bitter that Tim hasn't updated the Mini, but life's too short to be bitter. Do what you have to do to be happy and then go be happy.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: AleRod, Cape Dave, George Dawes and 3 others
philipma1957 said:
Moved to an iMac = Apple wins you lose.

Steve Cook could come to my home with 2 iMac's maxed as best as they can be for free and I would show him the door.
I am deeply saddened that you cracked and got that iMac. I am typing on a basic 2014 with 4gb ram.
I have a 2011mini with the gpu I have a 2012 i5 mini.

Most of my net typing and blog writing is with the macs.
But I moved on. I have android not iPhone due to Apple's desktop attitude.
I have a lenevo m700 tiny with an i7 6700 32gb ram and a 500gb ssd.
For a lot better experience. then any mac mini.

I come to the mini section 1 or 2 times a week with mixed feelings. Since Apple did destroy the mini I stopped selling souped up mining on eBay and started mining coins. Apple's idiocy has made me good money in the world of crypto coins .
Not that they wanted this for me. but it turned out this way. But I rather have a 12 minis in my clean room waiting for me to mod them it was a bit more fun for me.
Click to expand...
Who's Steve Cook? Tim's brother :D
 
  • Like
Reactions: KasperFromDK, AleRod, Icaras and 4 others
dwfaust said:
Yeah, I'm the loser. I have a computer that works well, can handle whatever I throw at it, and I am happy with it. It will last me a good number of years into the future.

I get it that you both are bitter that Tim hasn't updated the Mini, but life's too short to be bitter. Do what you have to do to be happy and then go be happy.
Click to expand...
I never said you were a loser, only that you gave in to Tim’s grand plan -screw over the entry models and force consumers to move up the Apple pyramid of higher earnings(at consumers expense).

I’m happy you have a system that works for you. But is it what you really wanted?

There in lies the difference between those going your route, and those who are not thrilled with Apple, about the mini. The sad part is that Apple USED to build what most of us wanted, but then they went the “screw the little guy” route.

I’ve moved on to a MUCH more capable machine, so I am happy with my choice. My family and friends, who need Mac updates, are not happy, because Tim doesn’t give a %&#@ about them.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Yvan256, AleRod, Cape Dave and 4 others
dwfaust said:
Hackintosh? Without macOS, it's not a Mac... so while that may be your "solution", it's not mine. Good luck.
Click to expand...
Hackintosh? Well, not exactly, I was thinking along the lines of installing on that NUC Peppermint Linux (Host OS, my personal favorite Linux distro), and VMware Workstation for Linux (VM hypervisor), and macOS Sierra (Guest OS, running in VM).
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: AleRod and Cape Dave
Count Blah said:
I never said you were a loser, only that you gave in to Tim’s grand plan -screw over the entry models and force consumers to move up the Apple pyramid of higher earnings(at consumers expense).

I’m happy you have a system that works for you. But is it what you really wanted?

There in lies the difference between those going your route, and those who are not thrilled with Apple, about the mini. The sad part is that Apple USED to build what most of us wanted, but then they went the “screw the little guy” route.

I’ve moved on to a MUCH more capable machine, so I am happy with my choice. My family and friends, who need Mac updates, are not happy, because Tim doesn’t give a %&#@ about them.
Click to expand...
[doublepost=1520008146][/doublepost]I don't need an iMac the screen does not work for me.
I need a mac mini sized pc that I hook up to tv's.
I need a smart phone
I need a tablet.
I need many gpu mining rigs.

Apple does not sell a mac mini sized pc that I can hook up to tv's

So I purchased an android
I purchased a tablet
I kept the mac minis and will run them till they die
I purchased a lenevo m700 tiny and jacked it up to an i7 6700t with 32gb ram and a 500 gb ssd to watch streaming. on a 4k tv.
I won't cave in and buy an iPad or an iPhone or an iMac of a macbook pro and when the three mac minis die off I will end up being all windows + linux.
 
You are well on your way philipma1957. Apple does not care about those not buying into the heir pyramid of higher profits.

Apple used to care about a whole lot more folks than they do now, but we have to be in acceptance of that, at this point.

Your needs will NEVER be met by Apple, especially your mining rig. You might as well ask for an Apple branded dishwasher.

Pick the tools that best meet your needs. I have 7 active Apple products in the House (iMac, MBP, MBAir, iPads, phones). Most are older now, because Apple has GREATLY scaled back on products that I want - that is why my latest computer is a PC tower, with enough power to easily go toe-to-toe with the latest iMac Pro lower and middle configs, at 1/3 or less the price. Granted it would be more expensive now, but I built mine in April of last year.

I’m being forced by Apple, to transition away(check my Sig). Only in my case, I’ll be taking friends and Family members with me, as they desire Mac mini form factors and functionality, and Apple doesn’t do that anymore. They only care about the $$$$$$ - top dollar or GTFO!
 
  • Like
Reactions: AleRod, George Dawes, janitor3 and 1 other person
Cape Dave said:
I am curious. Does doing it that way make installing MacOS easier than an average "hackintosh" or is it the same hassle?
Click to expand...
The trouble with any given average Hackintosh (macOS on non-Apple hardware) is that macOS extras must be tuned precisely to accommodate that specific hardware, otherwise the whole thing will crash and burn.

I think the advantage of a Virtual Hackintosh (macOS in VM in hypervisor on non-Apple hardware) is pretty obvious, as this solution does not much care about any hardware particulars, and relies on exactly the same virtual Macintosh hardware in VM instead. Under that angle, it is clear why installing macOS in VM is considerably easier.

Also, for me it is important that any macOS in VM malfunction will not bring the whole machine down to hardware/BIOS level, as the host OS will remain up and running.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Cape Dave
leo-tech said:
The trouble with any given average Hackintosh (macOS on non-Apple hardware) is that macOS extras must be tuned precisely to accommodate that specific hardware, otherwise the whole thing will crash and burn.

I think the advantage of a Virtual Hackintosh (macOS in VM in hypervisor on non-Apple hardware) is pretty obvious, as this solution does not much care about any hardware particulars, and relies on exactly the same virtual Macintosh hardware in VM instead. Under that angle, it is clear why installing macOS in VM is considerably easier.

Also, for me it is important that any macOS in VM malfunction will not bring the whole machine down to hardware/BIOS level, as the host OS will remain up and running.
Click to expand...
Thanks. I suspected this might be the case. I am surprised that I have not seen this scenario spoken about more often on this Forum,. Maybe I have not been hanging out in that thread enough :)

It seems like it would be a good answer to folks who are always saying that a NUC with Win10 is not a real Mac. So, doing it your way would allow for MacOS to be "easily" installed and Bob's your uncle.
 
Running OS X on a VM in Linux is a possibility I will be looking at in more detail.

If anybody has a good link or two for info on that, I would be most obliged. :cool:
 
  • Like
Reactions: rrl, Cape Dave and Miat
leo-tech said:
The trouble with any given average Hackintosh (macOS on non-Apple hardware) is that macOS extras must be tuned precisely to accommodate that specific hardware, otherwise the whole thing will crash and burn.

I think the advantage of a Virtual Hackintosh (macOS in VM in hypervisor on non-Apple hardware) is pretty obvious, as this solution does not much care about any hardware particulars, and relies on exactly the same virtual Macintosh hardware in VM instead. Under that angle, it is clear why installing macOS in VM is considerably easier.

Also, for me it is important that any macOS in VM malfunction will not bring the whole machine down to hardware/BIOS level, as the host OS will remain up and running.
Click to expand...
What may be the "holy grail" would be if someone could get VMWare's ESXi running as a boot loader / hardware abstraction layer for Mac OS, minimizing the overhead. Just did some googling. VMWare actually gives away ESXi and their vSphere licenses away for free....so there wouldn't be a huge cost overhead to do this. Hmm. (eyes old Intel PC sitting in the corner).
Heh...I should dedicate some time to this and try it. :)
 
  • Like
Reactions: Cape Dave
  • Like
Reactions: Cape Dave
On this thread, I posted asking for advice about buying a Mac Mini. I then purchased a 2012 Mac Mini. I used it, somewhat. I wrote advise about the 2012 Mac Mini on this thread. I sold my 2012 Mac Mini recently, and this thread is still going. Circle of life?
 
  • Like
Reactions: opeter, ignatius345 and navaira
oneMadRssn said:
On this thread, I posted asking for advice about buying a Mac Mini. I then purchased a 2012 Mac Mini. I used it, somewhat. I wrote advise about the 2012 Mac Mini on this thread. I sold my 2012 Mac Mini recently, and this thread is still going. Circle of life?
Click to expand...
Nope - Circle of futility
 
  • Like
Reactions: oneMadRssn
you have to admit ... it was pure genius (greed) that Apple stopped licensing their software to 3rd-party hardware manufacturers - otherwise it would be a clear road away from Apple at this point. Instead they've led us to a blind corner with no signpost.

It's this utter disregard for the present while they feign their knowledge about the future of desktops (NOT). It's just plain arrogance at this point.
[doublepost=1520468935][/doublepost]When I consider what Apple and the Mac have done for me in the past I give them wide breadth for errors, omissions and lapses. The Apple brand empowered my world so I find it particularly disturbing that the same company has embarrassed me, left me without options within the Apple kingdom and disconnected me from the vibes of continued progress - but if I was a bit younger ... I would say Apple groomed me to build what's right for me and take the advice given several posts back and just buILD IT!

But alas I've grown comfortable with the solution made ready in the box ... so yeah, I'll wait until more of you expound on your success with the NUC and some limited MAC OS functionality ... it's also possible we'll be surprised but surprise has never built an infrastructure.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: DesertSurfer, Aldaris, Count Blah and 2 others
Interesting to note ... as time moves on retailers are losing to Amazon ... they are "the new frontier" because they will bring disruptive change to the way many purchase ... now with the keys to your door (Ring) they will soon arrange entrance to your home ... all this presumably will keep you indoors more so along with the state of the world ... so Apple ... please stop telling me about my mobile future when I find it more and more likely I'll be indoors.

As time moves on I'm becoming less mobile because of innovation - so the least they could do is make binge computing totally flexible as the Mini provides..
 
Last edited:
Cape Dave said:
Thanks. I suspected this might be the case. I am surprised that I have not seen this scenario spoken about more often on this Forum,. Maybe I have not been hanging out in that thread enough :)

It seems like it would be a good answer to folks who are always saying that a NUC with Win10 is not a real Mac. So, doing it your way would allow for MacOS to be "easily" installed and Bob's your uncle.
Click to expand...
Maybe because apple doesn’t give us right to run virtual macos on other than apple’s hardware?
 
toke lahti said:
Maybe because apple doesn’t give us right to run virtual macos on other than apple’s hardware?
Click to expand...
Which leads us back to the whole point of this post. How about a new mini, Apple? How about rights to do what WE want to do for a change? They do not give us the right to a "hackintosh" either. But it is we rebels who change the world.

Note: I never have nor ever will build a hackintosh. I do not have that much time left :) But I would, just to see it work, setup a virtual box.
 
  • Like
Reactions: DesertSurfer and masterbaron
You must log in or register to reply here.
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.
Top Bottom
Back