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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming

Apple has chosen to "lead" by "breaking glass" - breaking standards and creating new protocols/topologies which has lead to fragmentation as traditional users essentially loose connectivity to legacy gear and apps and get blocked to innovation (manipulated profit). "We got something new just forget about the other stuff".

The stronghold to computing is getting things done when you find you're getting less done it's time for change - I hope they return to a more stable outlook (platform support) in terms of the Mini and provide more of a segue between infrastructure elements and updates.

Platform Support = Apple starts talking, instill commitment, nurture upgrades / compatibility and publish a roadmap - squash the secrecy desktop is so yesterday! Just let the dang thang connect to some of yesterday - all of today - and some of tomorrow with an update - thank you very much.

Apple can you hear us now?
 
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There are times/places/situations where making a bold break with the past, even if forcing people to lose some connection with their past computing lives, will work and are the right thing to do. Best examples for Apple were SJ’s push from OS 9 to OS 10 and later from PowerPC to Intel CPUs. In both cases, the move might have greatly irritated (and inconvenienced) lots of current customers, but it brought on board a lot of new people (the OS 10 change in my case). I don’t think either of these “saved” Apple a lot of money, they probably both cost more than they initially gained, but I would bet they made money in the long run by expanding the user base. Current Apple “shake up the world” moves have been either minor tweaks to macOS or highly questionable changes to the hardware (I’m thinking the insane/obsessive focus on “thinness over function”, the Trashcan Pro, and the “courageous” dropping of the headphone jack here).

A possible major change at this point could be a range of desktop options built around some innovative modularity using ARM CPUs and chipsets. If done well (and includes the ability for DIY mods to the hardware) with support for legacy software (as in Rosetta) and with no losses within macOS I could see this as a semi-major break with sort-term pain leading to longer-term gain for all of us. It would take 2-3 years for some things most of us like/use (such as VMs) to be ported over, but if Apple makes a strong move that is picked up by their desktop user base that puts pressure on the 3rd party vendors to port their products or drop them (which some will do).

Whatever happens, the next Apple release of a headless desktop system will tell us a lot about their plans (or lack thereof) for the future. Will it be a bold leap into a strong future, or a suicide plunge into thin madness?
 
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Final Mojave will make a huge difference to me as to whether I get yet another Mini.
In the four years since I got my last mini, Apple's walled Garden has gotten higher walls, and barbed wire that do not appeal to me. I'd rather spend time working, than spend time finding workarounds.
Linux shells are substantially improved. I could be happier there, if only they'd find a way to get this "free and open source" bug tamed so as to encourage slicker Apps.
 
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bbnck said:
It went up by 20% because the British pound fell significantly against the US dollar so Apple had to increase prices. If you look at the price of a 1.4 GHz Mac mini, it's $499 US dollars and this does not include applicable sales tax. Today the exchange rate takes this to roughly £385. Add 20% VAT on that and you get £462. That's £17 more. So let's say we're paying £20 more than US customers. Is that an obscene difference? Not so much. We are paying more because of the weak pound but that's a different matter altogether and nothing to do with Apple. Not defending their choice, but it's important to consider facts here.
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I already mentioned the BREXIT currency collapse of 2016 which precipitated the UK price rise in a separate post. I believe EU prices went up due to the relative strength of the US Dollar too. Yes, Apple do have to protect their margins but it's very rare that they reduce prices - there was a point earlier in the financial crisis on 2008-2013 that the £ reached virtually $2 and I then recall a price cut but it was nowhere near the cut it should have been. The issue is here that unlike the car industry Macs are specified the same the world over so the variable becomes price - something that's very easy to compare when the SKUs are identical. If you look at a BMW, their cars have different spec levels (and prices) in every country depending on how much the car maker thinks they can get away with.

It's acceptable for Apple have to hedge around currency for a year but it's a mickey take when they've priced the 2013 Mac Pro they way they have for almost 5 years. That got a price increase too as exchange rates changed, and then an effective cut when they shuffled the models around following the unprecedented 2017 state of the Mac Pro meeting.

I haven't been seriously interested in buying a Mac since the 2016 price rise in the UK combined with the keyboard reliability issues with Macbooks, and only now with Intel's extra cores coming along do I consider that a Mac is worth considering for purchase. There's certainly a case for migrating to Windows with the sheer horsepower improvements on offer for multi threaded workloads from both Intel and AMD. I'm waiting for October to roll by so we can all assess the Mac options at that point.
 
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Rising the price is fine when a country tanks its own currency, but put it back down when recovery is made.
Apple weren't the only company to do it, but as always they're quick to put price up and will never return it to normal.
I've never understood this forums defense of the Mac Mini price. It's terrible, for the spec, completely indefensible.
 
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sublunar said:
You say Tuesday but I note that Tim said Mojave gets released on September 24 which is a Monday. Press release with new hardware on September 25?
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Tuesday was something of a consensus view of a few, which may or may not come to be.......

iLukes said:
According to internal info from several Europe retailers the new Mac mini is coming to us as soon as this or next Tuesday at the latest. Fingers crossed!
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Crosscreek said:
It's always next Tuesday. :rolleyes:
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MacHaris said:
So is the Mini coming out on Tuesday or are these all prediction?
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MrGuder said:
What is so special about next Tuesday? Is there an Apple event?
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A new Mini released on a Tuesday? What blaspheming madness is this?

We all know that new Minis are released on a Thursday.
 
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Jobs was a prick but he was our prick. I don't pay attention to whoever the **** it is running Apple nowadays but all this iShit sucks dikk.

My biggest regret was not buying stock when it was $15
 
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masterbaron said:
...but my Mini's need a successor.
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One word — hackintosh. Even if a new mac mini gets released, it will be either severely overpriced or underspecced. It just doesn't make sense for Apple to release a computer that's cheap and reasonably powerful because it will cannibalize their laptop sales and even the imac. Apple no longer needs to have presence in the entry-level segment. They have enough leverage to bring new customers directly into the premium segment now.
 
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One word — hackintosh. Even if a new mac mini gets released, it will be either severely overpriced or underspecced. It just doesn't make sense for Apple to release a computer that's cheap and reasonably powerful because it will cannibalize their laptop sales and even the imac. Apple no longer needs to have presence in the entry-level segment. They have enough leverage to bring new customers directly into the premium segment now.
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I moved on 2014 mac mini to new imac 2017 . Ya,for those new imac 2018 igen8 and mac mini gen8 very sadly.o_O
 
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