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Looks good, just curious, what software are you using?
I'm using Fusion 360 for modelling and render. It is really good software and you'd believe me not but it works quite well on 13" i7 from 2013 when you add eGPU. It takes some time to get the patch and things set up and then you are fine.
I'm currently running Nvidia 1050Ti in Akitio Thunder 2 enclosure when I'm stationary at home.

I would love to buy a new 2018 15" MBP but... Kernel Panic.
 
At what point do we just all take the hint and give up?

I don't know... but with a couple credible rumors (which is more than we've seen for years), I don't think that point has arrived yet. But if you're ready to give up then go ahead... we won't miss you. ;)

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/10/17/mac-mini-four-years-since-last-update/

"The good news is that the long wait for an update may be coming to an end, as two reliable sources in Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo and Apple scoopster Mark Gurman both expect a new Mac mini to be released later this year."
 
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So, 12 days to ARM-ageddon? (Sorry, couldn't resist.)
On 30th of October I will wake up early in the morning and I'll walk to my nearest church.
There I will light a candle and pray the spirit of Steve Jobs to make new Macs Kernel Panic free.
[doublepost=1539885610][/doublepost]It crossed my mind that Apple's Pro range of Macs should actually be called Jobs.
So I made a Mac Mini Jobs edition render.
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Yep, as linked, the UHD620 is capable of driving a 4k display at 60Hz and is actually more powerful than the venerable Iris Graphics 5100 in the 2014 Mini. I know that's not difficult as process miniaturisation and 5 years of development makes it easy to supersede the Iris Graphics 5100 even with an iGPU from a 15w CPU but there have been threads expressing surprise at the improvement over the Kaby Lake Refresh i5-8250U from 2017.

The integrated graphics will also have a big improvement on graphics performance by using DDR4 memory so if Apple skip the LPDDR3 memory (unlikely as they use it in the MacBook Pro 13" with Touchbar) they could enjoy a slight bump in graphics performance as well as the chance to spec 32Gb of RAM.

Having said that, the pressure on it to be a very good performer could be less if Apple continue with the 28w CPUs in the more expensive SKUs even if it was hampered a bit by soldered LPDDR3 limiting the 2018 Mini to 16Gb.

still well below last year's i5-7260u (also 15W) because of lack of eDRAM:
https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?be...)+i5-7260U+CPU+with+Iris(R)+Plus+Graphics+640
 
The new Mac Mini is almost certainly coming.

But I have little faith it will be announced at the 30th event.
I think it will come out on this event. Apple has lost a massive peace of market cause they sell old stuff.
Having their hardware bumped to at lease 8th gen CPUs and adding TB3 expandability (at lease the eGPU which does take heat with it) I do think that a serious performing modular Mac Mini is very very real.

Take my example:
I'm running 2013 13" MacBook Pro Retina with i7 3.0 GHz CPU with Intel HD 4000 graphics with 8GB of RAM.
That computer is very underpowered if you want to do any CAD work on it.

But when I connect external Nvidia 1050Ti eGPU this old laptop is really allowing me to do my CAD fluently.
Now we are talking about 3rd generation CPU and thunderbolt 1 technology here.

Imagine how well this would work with 8th generation CPU and TB3 eGPU. And you can pack a MBP grade 4 core CPU in to a Mini. You can add 580 graphics vie TB3 and that speaks power to me.

I would in that case CTO an i7 CPU, 16GB RAM and TB3 eGPU - not necessarily the RX580 you can always upgrade that down the line if you do not go the Black Magic route.

That sound powerful in a Mac Mini package.
 
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But that CPU probably cost $100 more, we're cost reducing the MBA, not pricing up non touch bar MBP. Coincidentally, there's no 2018 iteration of that CPU on Intel's books. Looks like very few takers there forcing Apple to rethink their plans.
 
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But that CPU probably cost $100 more, we're cost reducing the MBA, not pricing up non touch bar MBP. Coincidentally, there's no 2018 iteration of that CPU on Intel's books. Looks like very few takers there forcing Apple to rethink their plans.
True.
(but I wouldn't mind the 8259u 28W in a new mac mini)
 
I think it will come out on this event. Apple has lost a massive peace of market cause they sell old stuff.
Having their hardware bumped to at lease 8th gen CPUs and adding TB3 expandability (at lease the eGPU which does take heat with it) I do think that a serious performing modular Mac Mini is very very real.

Take my example:
I'm running 2013 13" MacBook Pro Retina with i7 3.0 GHz CPU with Intel HD 4000 graphics with 8GB of RAM.
That computer is very underpowered if you want to do any CAD work on it.

But when I connect external Nvidia 1050Ti eGPU this old laptop is really allowing me to do my CAD fluently.
Now we are talking about 3rd generation CPU and thunderbolt 1 technology here.

Imagine how well this would work with 8th generation CPU and TB3 eGPU. And you can pack a MBP grade 4 core CPU in to a Mini. You can add 580 graphics vie TB3 and that speaks power to me.

I would in that case CTO an i7 CPU, 16GB RAM and TB3 eGPU - not necessarily the RX580 you can always upgrade that down the line if you do not go the Black Magic route.

That sound powerful in a Mac Mini package.

On a cost vs benefit ratio I don't think any i7 CPU is worth the extra performance over the upgrade cost that Apple applies. The budget is nearly always better spent on upgrading the internal storage to SSD (or more SSD) for me and moreso with the extra heat pumped out by the higher grade CPUs in Apple's ever-tight enclosures.

What worries me more is that the same comparison with a 6 core iMac will show the iMac as the value winner - it would be a walkover if the 2014 Mac Mini was still around when the dust settles after October 30th.
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True.
(but I wouldn't mind the 8259u 28W in a new mac mini)

On the basis of the CPU sockets now matching with the i5-8265U I think we could very well see that happen if Apple were applying the most logical of upgrades to each SKU. Mind you, Apple have missed several opportunities in the last 4 years to match the Macbook Pro 13" and didn't bother each time. That's why we still have skeptics (non believers) in here ;)

I'd still be interested if Apple used i5-8265U across all Mini SKUs, adding a AMD Radeon Pro 550X GPU to the top SKU for example. Avoiding an eGPU would be interesting.
 
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Bite your tongue! That would be the worst idea Apple could possibly do.. but the way Apple is going down the crapper, not outside the realm of possibility.
That's what people said when they switched from 68k to PPC and again from PPC to Intel. Let's face it, we have not seen much progress from Intel in years. They're now abandoning HT. OpenBSD already disabled HT support, more will follow.

Linux is running on ARM, so is Windows. Windows 32-bit x86 emulation is fantastic. Multi-threaded performance on ARM is excellent. The one thing we've not seen yet is single thread speed that comes close to Intel. Could Apple have pulled it off with a new chip? I think it's a little early for ARM, but maybe they will surprise us. In the long run, there's no way around ARM unless Intel performs a miracle on their existing platform.
 
That's what people said when they switched from 68k to PPC and again from PPC to Intel.

The difference though is we knew quite a bit in advance that Apple was making the processor change before the hardware rolled out.

Apple isn't going to do a major processor change starting with their bottom end computer. I mean, it would take quite a bit of time for major software to start rolling out for it. If that was the case, it would have been announced at WWDC back in June to developers to start converting their software.
 
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I doubt we will see any ARM Macs until at least the next OS X (when they start to allow developers to do combined iOS/OSX apps). And then it will be the laptops which have it first.
 
On 30th of October I will wake up early in the morning and I'll walk to my nearest church.
There I will light a candle and pray the spirit of Steve Jobs to make new Macs Kernel Panic free.
[doublepost=1539885610][/doublepost]It crossed my mind that Apple's Pro range of Macs should actually be called Jobs.
So I made a Mac Mini Jobs edition render. View attachment 796323
Or you can put this on top of your existing mini, and the next one:
https://www.apple.com/shop/product/HM8Y2VC/A/blackmagic-egpu?fnode=4c
Custom egpu for mini is just too niche of a niche.
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I think 'Pro' level (Intel) Macs will continue for some time, but MacBooks don't have TB3 (only USB-C) so there's currently nothing to lose for Apple if they choose to continue to make that a theme of Axx powered Macs in the future.

Would a Mac Mini without Thunderbolt (but with USB-C 3.1 Gen 2 - 10Gb/s) ports be a reasonable 'upgrade'?
What a headless mac needs is a display. Many of us want 2 or 3 displays. If there's enough usb ports to be used as dp ports, I guess most of us will be fine. Current MB can drive 12.8Mpx @60Hz. Current MM can drive 8.2Mpx, but with eGPU, much more. 2 4k displays are ≈18Mpx and 10-bit colors should have been the norm for a long time...

But can a desktop version of A12 drive a TB controller? How many pci lanes it has?
 
Bite your tongue! That would be the worst idea Apple could possibly do.. but the way Apple is going down the crapper, not outside the realm of possibility.
The apple a series chips are very powerful and can match some desktops. But can it then allow boot camp to run?
 
The Mini hype at the announcement of an Oct 30 special event was distinctly underwhelming.
Apple appears embarrassed to have to serve this particular part of its customer base.
If they keep this up, I'll happily give their new units a pass.
 
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