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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming
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Without delving deep into the thoughts about the A series CPUs replacing Intel CPUs, I had always assumed that the 'Pro' moniker would be Intel Macs, possibly Xeons, with A series co-processors capable of running Windows software at 'full speed'.
The non pro Macs would go ARM and get their software off the Mac App Store - software which could be easily recompiled for the new system.
It’s just a press release with a date, location, title and Apple logos. How can you ascertain hype or lack of for any product from that?
Sometimes I just imagine a new Mac Mini w/ 6-core cpu bundled with Gigabyte Gaming Box egpu. That would be sick! Then I may sell even my iMac. With that setup probably it would be the most customazible Mac.
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I’d drop my gaming rig for that (assuming I could dual boot windows)
Why not just wait and see? It's only 11 days. Don't waste time fretting over it until it happens.
I think it could go either way. Apple could really disappoint, or they could pull a rabbit out of a hat and become seriously competitive again in the desktop market.
About the only thing I am fairly sure of in all this is that Apple are not abandoning desktops. If they were, why would they put so much effort in recent years into developing MacOS, especially a whole new file system, and add native eGPU capability?
Handing off bulk number crunching to an external unit seems a very good option for hardware manufacturers.
He says on page 572 of a thread fretting over it.
I don't disagree with you, but to me it feels like APFS was developed primarily for iOS. It's mainly for SSDs. Apple rolled it out last year with iOS 10.3 about six months before it was default on macOS (with High Sierra, although I know it was beta in Sierra before that). The snapshots feature seems ideally-suited to eventually allowing in-place iOS upgrades with rollbacks. APFS can scale to Macs, sure, but the design choices just seem like they are tailored for iOS.
Yes, Microsoft has an ARM version of Windows 10.. buuuut.. what popular 3rd party software actually runs on it? At this point, it's facing the same fate as Windows CE. The only 'feature' I can foresee it might be useful for is running streamed apps from a server.
If anything, Windows 10 ARM is Microsoft's answer to Chrome OS. Again until big developers support it, it's just another toy OS.
It makes no sense to place a 700EUR eGPU on a Mini. I think that there needs to be a less power full option at more affordable pricing in order to attract the masses.
Fair cop. You got me there.He says on page 572 of a thread fretting over it.
Still, almost certainly only 11 days until us committed fretters find out our computing future. What will it be?
or or ?Plenty time to debate mate!Fair cop. You got me there.
Still, almost certainly only 11 days until us committed fretters find out our computing future. What will it be?
What is your take? What would you like to see in best case scenario and what would be acceptable case scenario?
Apple also needs to offer me matte displays on all their devices. Especially those that are portable.
There are cheaper eGPU-boxes available.
Can you guess why Apple is not selling them?
And why Apple would design and manufacture their own eGPU especially for Mini, when they don't offer it to their laptops, which sell 100x than Mini?
I'm a mix of skeptical and hopeful.
If they produce another solderblock, I may hold off upgrading until I have more of an idea what the story is on the next Mac Pro -- I've never bought a desktop machine without socketed memory and I don't think I could bring myself to do it now, and if the entry price on the Mac Pro isn't too extortionate, and the platform is really flexible and future-proof-able in the way a solderblock Mac mini wouldn't be, then it's a real option.
The nightmare scenario then is that the Mac mini's a solderblock *and* even the bottom Mac Pro is a diamond-encrusted Maserati in Lamborghini sauce.
What bugs me is that earlier this month I put an (extra) new SSD into my gaming tower to use as an Ubuntu playground, and the process went like this hardware-wise: open case, put SSD in empty bay, connect to mobo, close case. No soldering iron, no atomic weaponry, no severed fingers. Why on earth does Apple not recognize that there are a lot of people out there who want to do the same thing with Macs, and who know that the blasphemous idea that you can't and shouldn't and mustn't and can't be trusted to is actually a very new thing in the Apple Mac experience, and is therefore completely reversible?
Having said that, if I do end up with a new mini (replacing my beloved quad core mini), then I might consider the eGPU at a later date. But factored into that decision is that i.e. the Blackmagic eGPU is priced only a little less than what I paid for my entire gaming tower, GTX 1060 (+6GB onboard) included. Maybe it's time to say, there are two kinds of tasks -- the ones that depend on a GPU and are done in Winderz/Ubuntu, and the rest which are done on the Mac, and that trying to bulk up a Mac to compete *graphically* with even a fairly cheap gaming tower is a losing proposition monetarily.
If they produce another solderblock, I may hold off upgrading until I have more of an idea what the story is on the next Mac Pro -- I've never bought a desktop machine without socketed memory and I don't think I could bring myself to do it now, and if the entry price on the Mac Pro isn't too extortionate, and the platform is really flexible and future-proof-able in the way a solderblock Mac mini wouldn't be, then it's a real option.
The nightmare scenario then is that the Mac mini's a solderblock *and* even the bottom Mac Pro is a diamond-encrusted Maserati in Lamborghini sauce.
What bugs me is that earlier this month I put an (extra) new SSD into my gaming tower to use as an Ubuntu playground, and the process went like this hardware-wise: open case, put SSD in empty bay, connect to mobo, close case. No soldering iron, no atomic weaponry, no severed fingers. Why on earth does Apple not recognize that there are a lot of people out there who want to do the same thing with Macs, and who know that the blasphemous idea that you can't and shouldn't and mustn't and can't be trusted to is actually a very new thing in the Apple Mac experience, and is therefore completely reversible?
Having said that, if I do end up with a new mini (replacing my beloved quad core mini), then I might consider the eGPU at a later date. But factored into that decision is that i.e. the Blackmagic eGPU is priced only a little less than what I paid for my entire gaming tower, GTX 1060 (+6GB onboard) included. Maybe it's time to say, there are two kinds of tasks -- the ones that depend on a GPU and are done in Winderz/Ubuntu, and the rest which are done on the Mac, and that trying to bulk up a Mac to compete *graphically* with even a fairly cheap gaming tower is a losing proposition monetarily.
My needs are modest. Don't need hex core, or a massive GPU. Just a current generation quad and iGPU would do it with room to spare.
At least one 2.5" SATA bay, and preferably upgradeable RAM, and TB3.
IOW, an up-to-date version of the 2012 quad.
Over to you, Apple...
My thoughts exactly. They used to build 'em like that, only a few years ago. What strange new law of physics makes it so frickin' impossible now? It would be an auto-buy for me.
Something like the attached image? I jest, but I recon with an external PSU the new Mac mini could just be the same size as a MacBook chipset, about the size of a slice of toast (!?)
Then if you’re going to have a GPU for it, you might as well just plug it into the the chassis, if it’s big enough to take a full length card.
Then if you’re going to have a GPU for it, you might as well just plug it into the the chassis, if it’s big enough to take a full length card.
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Or CU again on page 998
Which reminds me of starting a new thread titled "The Nvidia drivers for Mojave are almost certainly coming"
Rumor seems to be their dropping the lower end configurations. I expect the base model to be priced about the same as the current $899 8GB/256GB mini, maybe $999 (for an entry level quad-core).
Presumably this will satisfy those who were upset that Apple was offering a lower performing base mini for a lower base price.
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