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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming
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Well, full of something for sure
I know what you are talking about. eGPU is expensive and large, but I think that apple will make a dedicated eGPU for Mini. That eGPU should unlock CPU performance via cooling and/or power supply, add medium strength GPU performance (560 to 575 range), all possible expansion ports that were removed from Mini, and it will be made specifically for MM.
That way the price can be kept high as the benefits of that particular eGPU will be seen trough 3 different fields.
Apple got to play this smart.
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The bottom module is original Mac Mini in what appears to be "space gray" colour.
The top module is thermals for additional CPU cooling, PWS for CPU and GPU, GPU + cooling...
And it has the same shape of the Mac Mini.
Oh, if you were referring to the transparent table top that my Mini is sitting on, well I can always re render it in cherry finish
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So is this useless piece of junk the most outdated crap Apple has ever sold? It is legitimately embarrassing that they still have this thing for sale... AT ITS ORIGINAL SELLING PRICE... over 4 years since it was released.
Not to mention this thing was total junk way back in 2014. Now, it’s beyond laughable to have this crap available in Apple stores. Selling this thing makes Apple look like a low-rent garbage company.
Apple is selling a machine with 4GB of NON-UPGRADABLE ram... in 2018. The machine is utterly useless on the day of purchase and will likely need to be thrown in the trash upon the next macOS release, which is what? A few months from now?
Apple should be ashamed of themselves that they are straight up ripping people off selling that junk. Uninformed consumers are going to think they are getting a quality computer because of the “Apple” brand name.
Is it really worth ruining your company’s reputation for the measly sales of the 2014 Mac Mini?
Not to mention this thing was total junk way back in 2014. Now, it’s beyond laughable to have this crap available in Apple stores. Selling this thing makes Apple look like a low-rent garbage company.
Apple is selling a machine with 4GB of NON-UPGRADABLE ram... in 2018. The machine is utterly useless on the day of purchase and will likely need to be thrown in the trash upon the next macOS release, which is what? A few months from now?
Apple should be ashamed of themselves that they are straight up ripping people off selling that junk. Uninformed consumers are going to think they are getting a quality computer because of the “Apple” brand name.
Is it really worth ruining your company’s reputation for the measly sales of the 2014 Mac Mini?
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Here you have the 3 models:
Low end:
Middle:
And here is the high-end, most expensive model, that resembles the old Apple puke mouse, just with ears:
Starting at just 499 $ and the standard color is pink, but you can order it in other metallic colors: rose gold, gold, silver etc.
Apple sells the current model until it is refreshed. Sometimes there are price cuts to increase volume when sales are weaker than desired at the original price, like Mac Pro for instance.
In the case of Mac mini, margins are already lower than typical so there’s really no reason expect a price cut, and volumes are probably within expectations. I’d guess a few hundred thousand a year, a couple of percent of overall sales. About as well as the mini ever sold, no?
There won't be a mickey mouse mouse. Maybe a mickey mouse stylus. Apple Inc doesn't do mouses.
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I just bought a new TV and I am considering it for 4k videos. Now, I am waiting for the Mac mini. I wonder if it is almost practically coming as we know he is certainly coming but not sure, though.
I just bought a new TV and I am considering it for 4k videos. Now, I am waiting for the Mac mini. I wonder if it is almost practically coming as we know he is certainly coming but not sure, though.
My new render just landed.
Mac Mini Pro with modular eGPU on top. Sorry no Mickey Mouse decals.
Mac Mini Pro with modular eGPU on top. Sorry no Mickey Mouse decals.
£1900 seems high...Almost double the price I paid for the 2011 quad mini. At that price I'd possibly finally bite the bullet and pick up a 15 inch MBPro to the potential flexibility of being able to unplug it (1% of the time...). But adding 1TB (or more) storage to the MBPro is just so expensive. My current 2011 MBPro has a 2TB SSD installed for <£300. I don't need NVME speeds.
For people like me, it would be nice if Apple could make a lower cost NVME+regularSSD fusion drive combo. I don't like the current NVME+HDD Fusion, but I also don't want to pay £1500 for 2TB of NVME storage.
Possibly, if a new mini arrives I will either spec it with a 256 GB internal NVME and then run a main data drive on an external USB-C Samsung SSD. Or maybe just buy a stock HDD model and run the entire OS and data drive on an external USB-C drive like one of these: https://www.scan.co.uk/products/192...ad-850mb-s-write-850mb-s-retail-with-usb-31-a
And maybe use the internal as a Time Machine backup.
EDIT: Having said all that, I am amazed to see that a fully specced 1TB CURRENT Mac mini (2014) can already hit £1900:
It can occasionally get the fan going, yes. This setup can do 1080p at 60 FPS, but I doubt TB1 would allow much more than that. For the time being, since I only have a 1080p display it's fine. But for the future I think TB3 would be needed not only for official support but to handle 1440p and 4K.
Good grief. Don’t defend the indefensible.
Where do you see any defense? I’m simply describing the current state of affairs.
This is the reality, until something changes. According to rumors, Apple will try to change things, by pivoting away from the relatively low end and “switcher” market they targeted with the current product. If these rumors are correct, Apple will be coming out with higher-end Mac minis.
If this change of strategy isn’t effective, this will likely be the last mini update we’ll see. Instead the mini will go the way of the Xserve, 17” MacBook Pro and other products that Apple was unable to sell in sufficient quantity to make it profitable.
btw, if the mini does go upscale, there will be no end of posts by those who wanted an expandable, upgradeable Mac mini they could buy for $499 and stuff with cheap RAM and NVMe drives. Anyone who thought that would be the next iteration of the mini doesn’t understand Apple at all.
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For what it's worth, it wasn't 'junk' in 2014 but the loss of the quad core CPU was a blow. The soldered RAM was also a blow and the locked away storage too. I might have been willing to buy one had the upgradability remained.
If there had been a steady decline in prices (or even regular sales) by Apple the used values would undoubtedly slip. As it is, and especially since the price increase took the price UP by around 20% in the UK (and to an extent in Europe) due to the $/£ exchange rate and BREXIT in late 2016, that doomed the 2014 Mini for me.
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The mind boggles at the kind of person who would buy that setup though when the 2017 iMac 21.5" blows it out of the water on benchmarks. You can spec £2259 worth of iMac 21.5" with 3.4GHz i5 15Gb of locked away RAM and 1Tb of SSD.
The additional £410 buys you a 4k screen, keyboard and mouse, and you get Thunderbolt 3 ports with your desktop class CPU and Radeon Pro 560 graphics.
The sums just don't add up and it'll be inevitable that a Coffee Lake 6 core iMac would make a Mini completely madness as a purchase next to the kind of horsepower that you can buy in a Coffee Lake iMac.
Compare the slightly less mad spec of Mid SKU 3GHz i5, 16Gb RAM and 512Gb SSD for £1789 to the specced up 2.8GHz i5 16Gb RAM Mini with 512Gb SSD which can be bought for £1309. The gap here is £480 for the usual monitor, keyboard and mouse.
It's looking less likely that we'll see an update in 2018
From when the iPhone XR pre-order period starts to a few days after in-store availability, Apple won't want to take any of the spotlight away from a core product to talk about a "rounding error" Mac mini.
After this we're getting too close to Christmas to announce a new product. Maybe we'll see an update in Spring 2019 along with the new modular Pro system. (or maybe we'll get Mickey Mouse Headphones S)
From when the iPhone XR pre-order period starts to a few days after in-store availability, Apple won't want to take any of the spotlight away from a core product to talk about a "rounding error" Mac mini.
After this we're getting too close to Christmas to announce a new product. Maybe we'll see an update in Spring 2019 along with the new modular Pro system. (or maybe we'll get Mickey Mouse Headphones S)
Yep, as linked, the UHD620 is capable of driving a 4k display at 60Hz and is actually more powerful than the venerable Iris Graphics 5100 in the 2014 Mini. I know that's not difficult as process miniaturisation and 5 years of development makes it easy to supersede the Iris Graphics 5100 even with an iGPU from a 15w CPU but there have been threads expressing surprise at the improvement over the Kaby Lake Refresh i5-8250U from 2017.
The integrated graphics will also have a big improvement on graphics performance by using DDR4 memory so if Apple skip the LPDDR3 memory (unlikely as they use it in the MacBook Pro 13" with Touchbar) they could enjoy a slight bump in graphics performance as well as the chance to spec 32Gb of RAM.
Having said that, the pressure on it to be a very good performer could be less if Apple continue with the 28w CPUs in the more expensive SKUs even if it was hampered a bit by soldered LPDDR3 limiting the 2018 Mini to 16Gb.
2016...surely 2017...got to be 2018...maybe 2019 now...or 2020, 2021, 2022...
Good grief. At what point do we just all take the hint and give up? It's like Stockholm Syndrome. Nothing meaningful is coming. The Mac, as a product line in general, seems to have no long-term future. Time to move on.
Tim Cook's Apple sees iOS as the future of personal computing. There is no place for the Mini or, equally, the Mac Pro. Sadly, macOS does not fit their vision or profit ambitions.
My new render just landed.
Mac Mini Pro with modular eGPU on top. Sorry no Mickey Mouse decals.
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Nice mockup.
A new Mini would be announced alongside iMac, Macbook, iPad, etc. It wouldn't get it's own event.
