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The New York Times Ends Apple News Partnership and Pulls All Articles

rmoliv said:
And unlike Apple News anyone can access The New York Times from nearly anywhere in the world whereas Apple's service is available only the the usual anglophone countries USA, Canada, Australia and UK. Apple needs to stop being so anglocentric.
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If they could just get rid of these stupid country specific rules that would be great.

I moved out of the USA and so at some point all my payment options stopped working, then I switched to a European app store - OMG what an absolute nightmare.

Things started breaking, family sharing broke completely (my kids didn't have access to anything anymore), some apps didn't work anymore or were no longer available - and there is no way to fix any of this. There are no options or buttons anywhere to fix things, it's just broken and stays broken and there's no customer service.

Oh and apps started to appear in German too - NO THANKS. I just wanna keep my US app store please, and pay with a EU card... but that's impossible. They don't want that dirty EU money. EU visa cards not accepted.

I eventually switched back to the US store and somehow fudged payment with a US paypal account which somehow works with a EU card - even though it's not supposed to work. At least my apps work again now.
 
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I pay $17 per month for the NYT.

For me, that's a bargain for outstanding in-depth fact-checked (via multiple sources) journalism, with 130 Pulitzer Prize awards under its belt.

And that costs a ton of money to keep going. I can see why the NYT wasn't a good fit for Apple's news app.
 
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Disappointing but not surprising. I have a 6 month complimentary trial from my mobile carrier here in UK, and I did briefly subscribe to News+ beforehand.

For magazines such as BBC Music together with The Atlantic & articles from Time, the service and the app is fine. For daily news though, the selection and available articles from those that do participate is not great. With NYTs departure, the selection is thinned further.

I do maintain a seperate digital subscription to a daily newspaper here in the UK, so I’m not missing out too much. Given the rumoured uptake of News+ subscriptions, Apple’s rumoured take of 50%, it cannot have left much revenue to share amongst all of the individuals publishers and periodicals. At this point I feel the decision is either New+ forgoes news and becomes newsstand again, or the business & revenue sharing model of News+ has to change to attract the major news organisations to the service.
 
I subscribe to the NY Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal and two local rags.

I tried Apple News+ and canceled after a few months. The interface and lack of search is abysmal, and I realized that I could just subscribe to another couple magazines instead of paying them $10 per month.
 
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Sethal said:
I'm still flabbergasted that people pay for news articles in the first place.
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Yes, and proudly so. The articles I read are paid for by my subscription(s) and are so in-depth that I am more informed than 99% of the people I talk to, all without the consequences of the rush to publication that online news causes.
I read regularly, almost daily, the printed version (or the e-edition replica) of:
  • WSJ
  • NYT
  • The Epoch Times
  • WaPo
  • Washington Times
  • Financial Times
  • two local papers
  • two european papers.
A single article from any of the above will beat a thousand online "free" articles. And I won't even go into the magazines (from Foreign Affairs, to Governing, to Foreign Policy, etc.)
 
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pedregosa said:
I get a lot of value with AN+ -- with full access to LA Times, SF Chronicle (a relatively new addition), WSJ, The Times (of London), New Yorker, etc. All of which normally are behind paywalls. I am also able to do a $5 per month add-on for The Washington Post. It's a pity that the NYT could work out a deal where AN+ readers could pay $5 or something for some sort of reduced subscription in terms of content. I'm happy to pay for news. But I prefer it all in one place.
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Plus, I don't want a direct relationship. I like how they have to go through Apple.
 
yaxomoxay said:
Yes, and proudly so. The articles I read are paid for by my subscription(s) and are so in-depth that I am more informed than 99% of the people I talk to, all without the consequences of the rush to publication that online news causes.
I read regularly, almost daily, the printed version (or the e-edition replica) of:
  • WSJ
  • NYT
  • The Epoch Times
  • WaPo
  • Washington Times
  • Financial Times
  • two local papers
  • two european papers.
A single article from any of the above will beat a thousand online "free" articles. And I won't even go into the magazines (from Foreign Affairs, to Governing, to Foreign Policy, etc.)
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My two reactions to that are 1) I'm impressed, and 2) do you have 48 hours in every day??
 
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Plenty of the comments in this thread seem to equate "news" with "politics" or "political opinion". There are many other reasons to read both the New York Times and Apple News+ offerings, and both entities have put expensive resources to work in presenting results of their journalistic and curating efforts. May not be everyone's cup of tea but they're both more worthwhile than the impression one might gather from reading a lot of the posts here.

As for the NYT withdrawing from Apple News, I am sorry to hear about that but it's a business choice the NYT is free to make. Remains to be seen whether it pans out better for the Times or for papers that continue to partner with Apple on whatever terms they've managed to arrange.

I like Apple News+ for the ability it gives me to look at content I like to follow but can't afford to subscribe to all of, much less make full use of so many individual subscriptions. I do subscribe to a bunch of papers and magazines. Apple News+ just works as a complement for me, filling in gaps to the extent I want to go beyond my own subscriptions now and then.
 
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QCassidy352 said:
My two reactions to that are 1) I'm impressed, and 2) do you have 48 hours in every day??
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ahahha, nah! I just read them in the morning. Often I dedicate a full hour on Sunday to catch up on the papers from the week that I've missed for one reason or another. (*)
In all truth, with very few exception, reading two mainstream sources (WSJ and NYT for example) is enough to know what's going on. The rest is either fishing for interesting, original articles or it's reading the various Op-Ed sections.

(*) This week, for the first time, I tried a new experiment. I received my daily papers in the AM and read the front page to see if anything insane happened ("WW3 starts", "Alien invasion!", "The Dead Walk!") and then I put the papers aside. Then, yesterday, I read them all, in order of chronology. I must say, it was an interesting experiment; I think I absorbed way more than usual because I could quickly see how things evolved throughout the week in a setting, and it was more relaxing than usual. I also noticed that I truly didn't miss much.
 
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BigMcGuire said:
Agreed. This rubs me the wrong way imo. I can access my paid subscription to Economist and WSJ in Apple News - which is nice, but I couldn't ever get that to work with NYT.
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Take your complaint to Apple - Apple does nothing and wants a 50% cut for it, and NYT isn't going to play that game. Apple needs to pull weight and/or reduce their cut.
 
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and 1989 others said:
An interesting move.

However, I know hundreds of people with iphones. Zero use apple
News. Neither do I. I 'curate' my own news feed to get balances reporting.
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I and millions of people do use it but thank you for letting us know that you don't. And I appreciate Apple's balanced reporting and have never heard anyone claim it's imbalanced; you can in fact pick topics and sources you like.

It's a fantastic app.
 
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JPack said:
Well yeah, what's the benefit for the New York Times? Apple News only encourages readers to sign up for Apple News+. NYT is already a strong enough brand to generate its own subscriptions.
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The downside is, going back to reading in numerous different apps/websites, rather than having it collected in one place.
 
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I love the idea of Apple News, but the app is a sorry mess of an excuse for a pleasant reader experience. I can't believe anyone would be willing to pay for quality news, then be stuck using Apple's app to read it.
 
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This is what could happen if Apple allows apps to be downloaded by browser download rather than only through the App Store...competition
 
"Core to a healthy model between The Times and the platforms is a direct path for sending those readers back into our environments, where we control the presentation of our report, the relationships with our readers, and the nature of our business rules," Meredith Kopit Levien, chief operating officer, wrote in a memo to employees. "Our relationship with ‌Apple News‌ does not fit within these parameters."

Big PR word salad for “we just want your subscription money.”
 
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