Anything less than a newer audio chip(improved audio quality) and support for FLAC is a massive failure.
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iPod touch The Next iPod Touch
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Anything less than a newer audio chip(improved audio quality) and support for FLAC is a massive failure.
This tells me I should just stop reading these threads and just wait until there is more concrete information about the next iPod Touch. We can predict all we want, but basically nobody but Apple knows what the new iPod Touch is going to look like. See you in September!
Okay, guys, let's clear something up. iPod touch 2G is only the low-end because compared to 3G, there is no physical difference and a slight performance difference, so why would Apple go make more iPods when there's not even a change? They've always had the same generation across the board up until last year, and even then it's still kind of the same. For iPhone, things are sort of different. We're all aware that since iPhone is their most expensive portable device overall (phone plan included), they want you to buy that. The reason they put the new models as the high end and an old model as the low end, is to make someone buy the high end and spend more money altogether. So, chances that there will be a 4th generation at the low end, is pretty high, although I can't make guarantees because no one knows what September will hold. If anything, I'd surrender some small advantages (battery life, wifi power, etc.) JUST to get a low end device. The battery on my iPod touch 2G right now serves me just fine.
I really can't agree with this reasoning. Apple definitely needs something at $199, albeit something that's hamstrung. Will they bother to design a hamstrung iPod touch 4G or just take the 3G, cut it to 16GB and reduce price to $199? I think the latter.
The problem with this is that Apple when selling last years models in the current lineup never built a new ipod/iphone; with the 16gb suggestion, This pattern would work but Apple mixed it up in 2009 with not releasing the 16gb 3rd gen ipod, so if this pattern would continue, Apple has the option of 1. Releasing the 32gb 3rd gen ipod, a 4th gen 64gb and 128gb-Which I do not think will happen( because 128gb is still too pricey) or 2. Just release a 32gb/64gb 4th gen iPod touch.
I'm going with option 2.
Well, like I said, only September will tell. But I can tell you one thing, without a 4G at the bottom for $199, Apple will lose a lot of iPod touch sales. And that's not what they want.
AppleMacTablet, then the price would be 279/379 respectively? That would be cool...
Someone mentioned that the iPod has to sacrifice some features from the iPhone to maintain it's current pricing. Well, we have no use of all those cellular chips and modules. We certainly don't need that GPS and compass. Tahtw ill cut some (if not, most) of the costs to manufacture an iPhone!
Also, remember how Steve Jobs marketed the Nano as a "Flip Competitor"? Well, I'm feeling that he might market this year's iPod Touch as "First Gaming, now Video". Like it will compete with the Flip HD with it's HD video camera, no still photos. Something along the lines of that
Someone mentioned that the iPod has to sacrifice some features from the iPhone to maintain it's current pricing. Well, we have no use of all those cellular chips and modules. We certainly don't need that GPS and compass. Tahtw ill cut some (if not, most) of the costs to manufacture an iPhone!
Also, remember how Steve Jobs marketed the Nano as a "Flip Competitor"? Well, I'm feeling that he might market this year's iPod Touch as "First Gaming, now Video". Like it will compete with the Flip HD with it's HD video camera, no still photos. Something along the lines of that
Facetime!!!
I think if the iPad came out after the iPhone4 it would've gotten facetime, which would look AMAZING on the huge display! I doubt the nano will get facetime, ALTHOUGH it is possible! I'm pretty sure that the ipod touch 4g will get it with 2 cameras (4 megapixel)
I think if the iPad came out after the iPhone4 it would've gotten facetime, which would look AMAZING on the huge display! I doubt the nano will get facetime, ALTHOUGH it is possible! I'm pretty sure that the ipod touch 4g will get it with 2 cameras (4 megapixel)
Yah. Was that confirmed or rumored. I heard that they took it out at the last second (forget why). If it was confirmed they there should be space in the logic board on the 3G for a camera... shouldnt there?
If they dont make a hamstrung 4th gen, they will lose alot of customers. Especially around Christmas.
But there wasnt a huge physical difference between them (other than the new design and front camera), but there will be with the 3G and the 4G.
Somebody here said it cost $183 to manufacture an iPhone 4 right? AT LEAST, 30-50 dollars are going toward cellular chips/modules and GPS and whatever. Then they have to pay the workers, and the bills. So altogether what would that be?
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THATS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING BASICALLY THIS WHOLE TIME.
If they really want to implement Facetime they will need a camera. I think if they do have a $199 iPod touch, then they will have the camera only.
Definetely.
Well, i guess a $20 discount is better than none.AppleMacTablet, then the price would be 279/379 respectively? That would be cool...
Someone mentioned that the iPod has to sacrifice some features from the iPhone to maintain it's current pricing. Well, we have no use of all those cellular chips and modules. We certainly don't need that GPS and compass. Tahtw ill cut some (if not, most) of the costs to manufacture an iPhone!
Also, remember how Steve Jobs marketed the Nano as a "Flip Competitor"? Well, I'm feeling that he might market this year's iPod Touch as "First Gaming, now Video". Like it will compete with the Flip HD with it's HD video camera, no still photos. Something along the lines of that
iPad will most likely recieve Facetime, nano might, it already is halfway there.
Honestly, I don't think the Nano will ever get Facetime. It's supposed to a small, lightweight media player, not any sort of computer of communications device like the iPod Touch or iPhone is marketed as. Even its gaming functionality is completely ignored in advertisements.
I agree its just supposed to be a small, lightweight media player like you said. Facetime cant go to the nano. Some idiots might start to think it'll come to the shuffle...ITS NOT MADE FOR THOSE DEVICES!!!
Well, it obviously wont come to the shuffle. It MIGHT come to the nano. Im not saying its likely im just saying its possible.I agree its just supposed to be a small, lightweight media player like you said. Facetime cant go to the nano. Some idiots might start to think it'll come to the shuffle...ITS NOT MADE FOR THOSE DEVICES!!!
^^I wouldn't go as far as having a smilie seizure, but I agree. The Shuffle is becoming more and more for simple music playback, the Nano for media and video, and the Touch for gaming and heavier media consumption.
Yes, it is possible, it wouldnt be that great though because the screen is so small.
I know the itouch 4g will have facetime because...
1) Steve Jobs said apple would sell tens of millions of facetime devices
2) if the nano has a camera, the touch definitely will have one or two (one for facetime)
3) the iphone has facetime...why cant the touch
1) Steve Jobs said apple would sell tens of millions of facetime devices
2) if the nano has a camera, the touch definitely will have one or two (one for facetime)
3) the iphone has facetime...why cant the touch
Teardown research - please read (especially the end)
I took the liberty of researching the component costs of iPhone 4 for you.
Post includes - Total price, Features we might see in the next iPod Touch, the cellular/unnecessary-for-the-touch items, flash memory/possibilities, the link to the teardown, and an outro.
In total - $187.50
Design (enclosure, hardware, metals, plastics, etc., not screen/glass) - $10.80
Glass - $10.00 (back? I don't know)
512mb of RAM - not listed
Display - $28.50
A4 chip - $10.70
5mp back camera - $9.75
VGA front camera - $1.00
Gyroscope - $2.60
3GS 3.2mp camera - $9.55 (note: technology has improved, so the cost is probably less now, taken from the 3GS teardown)
Total - $73.35
(what I beleive to be) all things phone and cellular
double data rate - $2.70
GSM/Edge transceiver - $2.33
GPS Chip - $1.75
Compass - $.70
Miscellaneous Connectivity components - $.80
Radio Frequency baseband - $11.72
Miscellaneous Radio Frequency Components - $8.25
In total - $28.25 (25 cents off from the display.)
Now on to flash memory. Using math I derived what the possible costs of different increments would be, using the 16gb price from the teardown.
8gb - $13.50
16gb - $27.00
32gb - $54.00
64gb - $108.00
128gb - $216.00
If anyone is interested - here is the link to the information
http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns-Ma...Materials-of-187-51-According-to-iSuppli.aspx
Please use these facts in your arguments and try to stay away from building on what you want/believe, and build on these facts.
I took the liberty of researching the component costs of iPhone 4 for you.
Post includes - Total price, Features we might see in the next iPod Touch, the cellular/unnecessary-for-the-touch items, flash memory/possibilities, the link to the teardown, and an outro.
In total - $187.50
Design (enclosure, hardware, metals, plastics, etc., not screen/glass) - $10.80
Glass - $10.00 (back? I don't know)
512mb of RAM - not listed
Display - $28.50
A4 chip - $10.70
5mp back camera - $9.75
VGA front camera - $1.00
Gyroscope - $2.60
3GS 3.2mp camera - $9.55 (note: technology has improved, so the cost is probably less now, taken from the 3GS teardown)
Total - $73.35
(what I beleive to be) all things phone and cellular
double data rate - $2.70
GSM/Edge transceiver - $2.33
GPS Chip - $1.75
Compass - $.70
Miscellaneous Connectivity components - $.80
Radio Frequency baseband - $11.72
Miscellaneous Radio Frequency Components - $8.25
In total - $28.25 (25 cents off from the display.)
Now on to flash memory. Using math I derived what the possible costs of different increments would be, using the 16gb price from the teardown.
8gb - $13.50
16gb - $27.00
32gb - $54.00
64gb - $108.00
128gb - $216.00
If anyone is interested - here is the link to the information
http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns-Ma...Materials-of-187-51-According-to-iSuppli.aspx
Please use these facts in your arguments and try to stay away from building on what you want/believe, and build on these facts.
AWESOME RESEARCH!!! But where is the price of cameras? Thats what were eager to learn si we can find out if the 4g will have a camera....
It is mostly the design challenges with the cameras. But the front one can easily fit in even the current design.
^I agree. And IMO, the gyroscope is a no-brainer. It's not really marketed as a premium feature, and it's perfect for games, which seem to be what Apple is marketing the touch for.
They never built an 8GB iPhone 3GS either until right before the iPhone 4 came out. iPhone 3GS was only 16GB and 32GB when first released. To create the current low end iPhone, they just reduced both storage and price. My opinion is that they will to the same to iPod touch 3G to create the low end iPod touch in Sept 2010.
Anyway who cares about $199 model! It will be hamstrung in some egregious way and not much to hope for. The good stuff will be in the $299+ models. Hope Apple gets that right!
Anyway who cares about $199 model! It will be hamstrung in some egregious way and not much to hope for. The good stuff will be in the $299+ models. Hope Apple gets that right!