iPod touch The Next iPod Touch

[Subzero12]

1 buck for a front camera?......HELLO FACETIME!!!!
Gyroscope...idk, it'll probably be there.

it is marketd for gaming. there WILL be a gyroscope.

 

[v2allen]

They never built an 8GB iPhone 3GS either until right before the iPhone 4 came out. iPhone 3GS was only 16GB and 32GB when first released. To create the current low end iPhone, they just reduced both storage and price. My opinion is that they will to the same to iPod touch 3G to create the low end iPod touch in Sept 2010.

Anyway who cares about $199 model! It will be hamstrung in some egregious way and not much to hope for. The good stuff will be in the $299+ models. Hope Apple gets that right!

I care about the $199 model...

 

[liamkp]

^^I wouldn't go as far as having a smilie seizure, but I agree. The Shuffle is becoming more and more for simple music playback, the Nano for media and video, and the Touch for gaming and heavier media consumption.

Haha.

Yes, it is possible, it wouldnt be that great though because the screen is so small.

Well, maybe they should increase screen size.

I took the liberty of researching the component costs of iPhone 4 for you.

Post includes - Total price, Features we might see in the next iPod Touch, the cellular/unnecessary-for-the-touch items, flash memory/possibilities, the link to the teardown, and an outro.

In total - $187.50

Design (enclosure, hardware, metals, plastics, etc., not screen/glass) - $10.80
Glass - $10.00 (back? I don't know)
512mb of RAM - not listed
Display - $28.50
A4 chip - $10.70
5mp back camera - $9.75
VGA front camera - $1.00
Gyroscope - $2.60
3GS 3.2mp camera - $9.55 (note: technology has improved, so the cost is probably less now, taken from the 3GS teardown)

(what I beleive to be) all things phone and cellular
double data rate - $2.70
GSM/Edge transceiver - $2.33
GPS Chip - $1.75
Compass - $.70
Miscellaneous Connectivity components - $.80
Radio Frequency baseband - $11.72
Miscellaneous Radio Frequency Components - $8.25
In total - $28.25 (25 cents off from the display.)

Now on to flash memory. Using math I derived what the possible costs of different increments would be, using the 16gb price from the teardown.
8gb - $13.50
16gb - $27.00
32gb - $54.00
64gb - $108.00
128gb - $216.00

If anyone is interested - here is the link to the information
http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns-Ma...Materials-of-187-51-According-to-iSuppli.aspx

Please use these facts in your arguments and try to stay away from building on what you want/believe, and build on these facts.

Wow. Thanks.

Just FYI, i dont think those are the actual prices for the flash memory. It doesnt double per every amount GBs doubled.

AWESOME RESEARCH!!! But where is the price of cameras? Thats what were eager to learn si we can find out if the 4g will have a camera....

Yep.

216 bucks for 128gb of flash memory...OUCH!!!

I dont think thats the exact price. Maybe similar, but not very close.

Above post updated with a fix on a price, gyroscope, front and back camera, 3GS camera, design, glass, RAM and an intro/table of contents.

Thanks.

Ya, I think that's proof enough there will be no 128GB iPod Touch this time around.

Yep.

1 buck for a front camera?......HELLO FACETIME!!!!
Gyroscope...idk, it'll probably be there.

Ewww... VGA.

It is mostly the design challenges with the cameras. But the front one can easily fit in even the current design.

Yep.

^I agree. And IMO, the gyroscope is a no-brainer. It's not really marketed as a premium feature, and it's perfect for games, which seem to be what Apple is marketing the touch for.

Plus, most apps are compatible!

They never built an 8GB iPhone 3GS either until right before the iPhone 4 came out. iPhone 3GS was only 16GB and 32GB when first released. To create the current low end iPhone, they just reduced both storage and price. My opinion is that they will to the same to iPod touch 3G to create the low end iPod touch in Sept 2010.

Anyway who cares about $199 model! It will be hamstrung in some egregious way and not much to hope for. The good stuff will be in the $299+ models. Hope Apple gets that right!

Honestly who here will be buying a $199?


Earlier in the year i planned on buying a 3G for $250 used... First of all, glad i didnt, but with the fact that im going to spend $50 extra on a touch is annoying, so i will have to cut back on accesories....

Whos buying on release date?

 

[ct95]

Apple ripped on these cost estimates. They also said the iPhone 4 has a higher cost structure than iPhone 3GS and have to take a bit of a hit on profit margins to remain aggressive on pricing. It's in their latest quarterly earnings call. You can look up transcript online.

Other notes: iPod touch sales are up 48% from last year.

I am worried that we will be disappointed with iPod touch 4. Apparently, they do not need to be terribly aggressive with iPod touch features and still have good sales.

If anyone is interested - here is the link to the information
http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns-Ma...Materials-of-187-51-According-to-iSuppli.aspx

Please use these facts in your arguments and try to stay away from building on what you want/believe, and build on these facts.

 

[Josh0806]

Me!

Here are my predictions...
New design (square like the iPhone but an aluminium enclosure ala iPad)
A4
512 mb ram
3 mp camera on the back (with vga video)
Gyro

I would probably buy this but I would be sold if it had the retina display, 960x640 video recording and a 0.3 mp front facing camera as well.

 

[v2allen]

Whos buying on release date?

Im going to try to buy on release date, if I like the features

 

[liamkp]

Apple ripped on these cost estimates. They also said the iPhone 4 has a higher cost structure than iPhone 3GS and have to take a bit of a hit on profit margins to remain aggressive on pricing. It's in their latest quarterly earnings call. You can look up transcript online.

Other notes: iPod touch sales are up 48% from last year.

I am worried that we will be disappointed with iPod touch 4. Apparently, they do not need to be terribly aggressive with iPod touch features and still have good sales.

So am i.

Im going to try to buy on release date, if I like the features

I wont buy on release date even if i like the features; there might be something wrong with it.

 

[TorontoLRT]

I'm already thinking that if I can raise the money somehow, I'll line up outside the Toronto Apple Store and buy one. I'd like to get the midnight experience.

 

[liamkp]

I'm already thinking that if I can raise the money somehow, I'll line up outside the Toronto Apple Store and buy one. I'd like to get the midnight experience.

Post a review if you get one!

 

[TorontoLRT]

I will. That is, if I do line up. I start school on the 7th, so...

 

[applemike]

More like linux

-From your sig

If your running linux, what do you use to sync your ipod and ipad? as ive had experience and iTunes doesnt run well under WINE

Mike

 

[Biker]

I wont buy on release date even if i like the features; there might be something wrong with it.

LoL there won't be reception problems XD

 

[applemike]

LoL there won't be reception problems XD

Dont be so sure, might end up with wifi issues or bluetooth issues.

that or a yellow screen (from the current iMac)

 

[TorontoLRT]

-From your sig

If your running linux, what do you use to sync your ipod and ipad? as ive had experience and iTunes doesnt run well under WINE

Mike

Totally off topic, but I use a Windows machine to sync. I use my shared family desktop (running Windows) as well as my own laptop (running Linux) and my iPad.

 

[applemike]

Totally off topic, but I use a Windows machine to sync. I use my shared family desktop (running Windows) as well as my own laptop (running Linux) and my iPad.

Saves starting a new topic, (and lets see if you can find one thread over 100 posts that hasnt gone off topic before)

And im dual booting Win7 64bit and Linux, windows is only there for gaming and syncing. Linux is for everything else I do.

Mike

 

[TorontoLRT]

^Nice. I used to have a dual boot, but found I never used Linux on my desktop, so I deleted it to free up space.

 

[iMac0765]

I wont buy on release date even if i like the features; there might be something wrong with it.

Haha, iPhone 4 all over again! This time with the Wi-Fi death touch.

So yea, I'm not selling my Touch. Why? Well, I'm still getting the iPod Touch 4G, but not until Christmas or after. Why? Well, I'm going on mega-ass trips during Q4 of this year (personal reasons) ranging from Montreal to Disneyland in Florida. It averages from a trip every two weeks (I know, tiring isn't it). Again, personal reasons.

So yea, I talked to my parents about it and they respect my decision and agreed to chip in 150 for the new one in December. Where the #### am I going to find 150 dollars....

 

[liamkp]

LoL there won't be reception problems XD

I know.

I was just thinking there might be some issue, reception or not... just in case. Id prefer not to have to return it and such. I think ill buy from eBay (no tax).

 

[Peterson8765]

There are not going to be any problems with the iPod touch 4G's Wi-Fi reception, I bought a 2G touch in October of 2008, and it was amazing, no problems for the year that I owned it. Just never buy one of Apple's first generation new products.

 

[liamkp]

There are not going to be any problems with the iPod touch 4G's Wi-Fi reception, I bought a 2G touch in October of 2008, and it was amazing, no problems for the year that I owned it. Just never buy one of Apple's first generation new products.

Hmmmm... Just in case. I think ill buy on eBay, anyone else? All i have to do is find a deal cheaper than.... about $320.

Does amazon charge tax?

 

[Ryuu117]

It's not the wifi's reception, but it's compatibility I'm worried about. I'd like to say 802.11n. Crazy fast.

 

[TorontoLRT]

Isn't 802.11n still compatible with all earlier network protocols?

 

[Ryuu117]

Yeah I meant on the actual iPods wifi card, as in reading the network.

And guys, after thinking, there's something on iOS4 that we overlooked.... airplane mode. Airplane mode is used to disconnect all 3G functions on a cell phone, yet it's on the iPod touch. Why...? Because, there may possibly be 3G. I KNOW IT'S SUPER UNLIKELY, and I'm not saying it'll happen or it's ever been in my expectations, but. Think about it. iPhone has it to disable 3G abilities, meaning Apple already thought "hey, let's give this 3G DEVICE an airplane mode so people can disable their 3G," so why put it on an iPod when we clearly have a wifi off switch? I don't know guys, tell me what you think.

 

[TorontoLRT]

^Airplane mode was put in to disable the damn persistent WiFi that eats battery life.

 

[Ryuu117]

^Airplane mode was put in to disable the damn persistent WiFi that eats battery life.

But you know there's a wifi switch for that, right? It does the same thing, it's just a little less convenient to get to. Airplane mode is designed to turn off 3G radios.