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Jaffa Cake said:
And I've just googled up a meaning for the surname Tyler... it's an occupational name for roofers, but its origins can be traced back to the Old English 'tigele,' meaning "to cover" – like a hood, maybe? :D
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Again, possibly pushing it, but you definitely get an A for effort! ;)

Jaffa Cake said:
The Tardis is indeed linked to a terrible event. We know that the Doctor (and therefore the Tardis) was heavily involved in the Time War, the effects of which were felt across the universe. Of course, the Doctor himself can change his appearance and so avoid being recognised (and there are hints that he has regenerated since the War) but the Tardis can't. So maybe Bad Wolf is the Tardis?
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Possibly, I guess we'll see.

And your regeneration comment brings up another interesting point. Is this Doctor really the 9th Doctor? We never see Paul McGann regenerate into him, how do we know he's the 9th Doctor? Could he be the 10th, the 11th? (presumably not the 12th and final, since that was the evil Dcotor, the Valeyard...) Or perhaps this Doctor is the 1st Doctor, even before William Hartnell (who says he's the first?) - there's an interesting plot twist! :eek:
 
hob said:
I don't care what anyone says, Billy Piper is one of the most attractive women on british tv...!
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She's definitely a good looking girl... :)

hob said:
I think the BBC could turn Doctor Who into a rather interesting show where loads of different people play the doctor...? It would be a departure from tradition, but then again isn't this entire series all about that?
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The only problem I see with this is that the Doctor can technically only have 12 regenerations, so you couldn't really do that for too long! ;) Further to that, see my above comment...
 
~Shard~ said:
She's definitely a good looking girl... :)



The only problem I see with this is that the Doctor can technically only have 12 regenerations, so you couldn't really do that for too long! ;) Further to that, see my above comment...
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The Master restarted his regeneration sequence.
 
HydroMan said:
The Master restarted his regeneration sequence.
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Did he really? I don't remember the specifics surrounding that one, was that in the movie or something? I remember an older Who episode where he stole a regeneration from someone... Fill me in if you don't mind, I'm curious...
 
~Shard~ said:
(presumably not the 12th and final, since that was the evil Dcotor, the Valeyard...)
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The Valeyard, if memory serves, was actually created from the darker parts of the Doctors psyche between his twelfth and thirteenth regenerations... he was the twelfth-and-a-half Doctor if you would. As a Timelord he gets to regenerate twelve times, meaning thirteen Doctors (although we're getting closer and closer to the plot device that will allow him to circumvent this rule ;) ). Judging by his comments about his reflection in the first episode, he appears to have recently regenerated – but you're right, we've not actually seen it happen so as yet there's no definitive proof he is the ninth.

Come to think of it, if we've not seen him regenerate, how can we be 100% sure he is the Doctor and not a 'bad wolf' in sheep's clothing? :p ;)
 
Oh, and I just watched Father's Day again. Shouldn't the universe have exploded or something when the first Rose saw the second Rose? The first Rose + Doctor just vanish after the second Rose saves her Father. But I remember in a previous Doctor Who, a Davison episode I believe, where duplicate Brigadiers were involved, and the Doctor kept saying that if they met each other it was could a cataclysm. Or was it only if they touched? Just curious about this little inconsistency...
 
~Shard~ said:
Oh, and I just watched Father's Day again. Shouldn't the universe have exploded or something when the first Rose saw the second Rose? The first Rose + Doctor just vanish after the second Rose saves her Father. But I remember in a previous Doctor Who, a Davison episode I believe, where duplicate Brigadiers were involved, and the Doctor kept saying that if they met each other it was could a cataclysm. Or was it only if they touched? Just curious about this little inconsistency...
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Apparently they (both Rose's) must not share the same space i.e not come into contact with each other, that's the usual explanation in Sci Fi, the most recent reference in Time Cop (Van Damme)
 
Jaffa Cake said:
The Valeyard, if memory serves, was actually created from the darker parts of the Doctors psyche between his twelfth and thirteenth regenerations... he was the twelfth-and-a-half Doctor if you would. As a Timelord he gets to regenerate twelve times, meaning thirteen Doctors (although we're getting closer and closer to the plot device that will allow him to circumvent this rule ;) ).
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Cool, thanks for elaborating on that, I think you're right...

Jaffa Cake said:
Judging by his comments about his reflection in the first episode, he appears to have recently regenerated – but you're right, we've not actually seen it happen so as yet there's no definitive proof he is the ninth.

Come to think of it, if we've not seen him regenerate, how can we be 100% sure he is the Doctor and not a 'bad wolf' in sheep's clothing? :p ;)
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That thought crossed my mind as well, but then who would he be? Someone mentioned maybe he's the Master, and the actual Doctor will come in to "save the day" - but I don't see how that would be possible. This Doctor acts like the Doctor, the Master didn't take on companions and care about them, and the Master wouldn't still strive for the greater good as this Doctor has so far in each episode - I would call him a "good person". Could he still be a "Wolf" though?

I guess we'll find out in Episode 12, "Bad Wolf" - hopefully then all will be explained...
 
HydroMan said:
Apparently they (both Rose's) must not share the same space i.e not come into contact with each other, that's the usual explanation in Sci Fi, the most recent reference in Time Cop (Van Damme)
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Okay, so they just can't touch - makes sense, I think that's consistent with the other episode.
 
~Shard~ said:
I remember an older Who episode where he stole a regeneration from someone... Fill me in if you don't mind, I'm curious...
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He possessed a number of bodies following his final regeneration (including Nyssa's father), and he also tried to steal the Doctor's remaining regenerations. In The Five Doctors the Timelords offered to reward him with a fresh cycle of regenerations in return for helping the Doctor – I can't remember if they did this or not but it does show there are loopholes already in place for the writers to take advantage of.
 
Jaffa Cake said:
He possessed a number of bodies following his final regeneration (including Nyssa's father), and he also tried to steal the Doctor's remaining regenerations. In The Five Doctors the Timelords offered to reward him with a fresh cycle of regenerations in return for helping the Doctor – I can't remember if they did this or not but it does show there are loopholes already in place for the writers to take advantage of.
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My, my Jaffa Cake you truly are a Who fan, I bow down to your infinite knowledge. I can remember it but not that well.
 
~Shard~ said:
Someone mentioned maybe he's the Master, and the actual Doctor will come in to "save the day" - but I don't see how that would be possible.
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My comment about him maybe not really being the Doctor was just me being a little mischievous. I agree with you entirely – I really don't think they'd dare pull a stunt like that. The new series is aiming to attract a new following and such a move would have that audience switching off in droves.

That's not to say that 'Bad Wolf' isn't referring to the Doctor – but if it is, there's a different explanation.
 
Jaffa Cake said:
He possessed a number of bodies following his final regeneration (including Nyssa's father), and he also tried to steal the Doctor's remaining regenerations. In The Five Doctors the Timelords offered to reward him with a fresh cycle of regenerations in return for helping the Doctor – I can't remember if they did this or not but it does show there are loopholes already in place for the writers to take advantage of.
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Oh yah, that's coming back to em now - impressive! It's good to be among fellow Who-vians... ;)
 
Jaffa Cake said:
My comment about him maybe not really being the Doctor was just me being a little mischievous. I agree with you entirely – I really don't think they'd dare pull a stunt like that. The new series is aiming to attract a new following and such a move would have that audience switching off in droves.

That's not to say that 'Bad Wolf' isn't referring to the Doctor – but if it is, there's a different explanation.
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Plus, although I would venture the bulk of the viewers are old Who fans like us, there probably is a significant number of "new" fans who aren't as familiar with the old episodes. Throwing in some big plot twist like that involving the Master would just end up with a lot of viewers going, "Huh? Who the hell is The Master?!" and turning the channel... ;)

But yes, it is fun to be mischievous. :)
 
The Bad Wolf episode features Big Brother (Davina McCall), What not to wear (Trinny and Suzannah) and The weakest Link (Anne Robinson!) apparently, so what the Bad Wolf has to do with game shows is anyones guess.
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After checking, Anne Robinson (playing as "Anne Droid") is the only one cast to appear.
 
I just found a spoiler of sorts for the "Bad Wolf" episode posted at GallifreyOne. I have cut+pasted it below in white text, so anyone who wants to read it can highlight it. Sounds, well, interesting I guess... This could either be really good or really bad... :eek:

Bad Wolf Spoiler: "GUESS WHO'S IN BIG BRU," says the Daily Star, ". . . and who's the Weakest Link. Doctor Who is to face his biggest ordeal yet by becoming trapped inside the Big Brother house. And his sidekick Rose will come up against something more scary than a Dalek - a robotic Anne Robinson on The Weakest Link. The Time Lord, played by Christopher Eccleston, 41, and sexy Rose - Billie Piper, 22 - do battle in an adventure on the BBC sci-fi show when the Tardis ends up in futuristic reality TV land. The bizarre idea was dreamed up by writer Russell T Davies, 41, who said last night: 'It's one of my favourite episodes. When you see it on screen you'll be blown away.' The Doctor ends up as a reality TV star when he lands inside the Big Brother house in the penultimate episode of the series, called Bad Wolf, to be screened in June. Telly chiefs wanted the setting to look authentic so they asked Channel 4, who run the game show, to help. And they have been given permission to use the famous Big Brother theme music during the scenes where the Doctor is trying to escape from the house. They are still in talks with TV host Davina McCall to do a voiceover. Bosses want her to say: 'Big Brother House, this is Davina. You are live on Channel 4 - please do not swear.' Russell added: 'We're hoping Davina will be able to do this. She's busy, but we're keeping our fingers crossed.' During the weird episode, the Doctor's sexy assistant Rose also finds herself up against a celeb in the form of Anne Robinson. She lands on the BBC2 gameshow The Weakest Link and discovers the Queen of Mean has been replaced by a robot. TV bosses have persuaded Anne, 60, to do the voice of Anne Droid - and it's even more cruel than the real acidtongued host. The Doctor's new assistant Captain Jack (played John Barrowman, 38) also finds himself in trouble in the bizarre special. He gets a roasting from none other than Trinny Woodall, 40, and Susannah Constantine, 42, after stumbling into an edition of What Not To Wear. When they see the time traveller dressed up looking like Han Solo from Star Wars they give him a much-needed makeover." The story has been picked up at Digital Spy, DeHavilland and the BigBrotherWebsite.net.
 
~Shard~ said:
Plus, although I would venture the bulk of the viewers are old Who fans like us, there probably is a significant number of "new" fans who aren't as familiar with the old episodes.
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When it got pre-empted for the BC Election (grrr, talk about having your priorities backwards) they got enough email complaints that it was mentioned on the air, so I'd say CBC probably has picked up a lot of new viewers for it. My family definitely adds two now ones, and yes they would get very confused by a doctor turns out to be the master plot twist. Not that it wouldn't be fun anyway :)

I'm not going to touch your spoiler...
 
stcanard said:
When it got pre-empted for the BC Election (grrr, talk about having your priorities backwards) they got enough email complaints that it was mentioned on the air, so I'd say CBC probably has picked up a lot of new viewers for it. My family definitely adds two now ones, and yes they would get very confused by a doctor turns out to be the master plot twist. Not that it wouldn't be fun anyway :)

I'm not going to touch your spoiler...
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Good to hear there is a significant fan base! Yah, a Master-involved plot twist would just leave all the new viewers saying "Huh???" after it was all said and done.

Based on my spoiler above, well, I don't know what to make of things - like I said, I don't know if this is going to be really good or really bad for the series. It should be an "interesting" episode if nothing else...

I would still like to see more non-Earth epsiodes though in Season 2. The stories have been great so far, but come on, there's a whole universe out there and an infinite amount of eras to explore - why waste so much time on Earth-related stories? My only explanation is that the Doctor doesn't want to freak Rose out, so he's taking her places she can at least somewhat relate to for starters before showing her the good stuff that would completely blow her mind. ;) :cool:
 
~Shard~ said:
My only explanation is that the Doctor doesn't want to freak Rose out, so he's taking her places she can at least somewhat relate to for starters before showing her the good stuff that would completely blow her mind.
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My explanation is that the budget, although greater than that enjoyed by the 'original' series, will only stretch so far. ;) But it would be nice to see more stories set away from Earth – hopefully we'll get more in the next series.

Meanwhile, Russell T. Davies has stated in an interview that Bad Wolf isn't the Master, the Celestial Toymaker or Fenric... although we are promised "thousands of Daleks". :D
 
Jaffa Cake said:
Meanwhile, Russell T. Davies has stated in an interview that Bad Wolf isn't the Master, the Celestial Toymaker or Fenric... although we are promised "thousands of Daleks". :D
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Cool, good enough for me! :D
 
~Shard~ said:
Cool, good enough for me! :D
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Don't forget either – there was a rumour doing the rounds that while the Dalek in the episode of the same name would look pretty much the same as those from the 'original' series, the Daleks shown in the last two episodes would have a new, revamped design.

Most probably wild speculation, but you never know...
 
Jaffa Cake said:
Following on from our recent 'bad wolf' musings, the BBC owned www.badwolf.org.uk now has some content up...
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Wow, that's awesome, thanks for the link! I'm getting excited now, I'm hoping this will be good - hopefully it won't be a let down - I still have my concerns surrounding this whole reality TV episode as mentioned above.
 
I'm just really impressed that the writers have incorporated this whole Bad Wolf thing into the story. They didn't just say, "Okay, let's write some more Doctor Who episodes", it's things like this that show they actually care and put some time, thought and effort into it. I am really enjoying the new series so far, and the writing has been great. It's excellent to see that they're doing the new series RIGHT. :cool:

^ And I'll be checking that blog out as well, thanks for the link. :)
 
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