Excellent news if you ask me! "Girl in the Fireplace" and "Blink" are two of my all-time favorite episodes of the new series so I'm excited to see what he'll bring to the table in this new role.
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Excellent news if you ask me! "Girl in the Fireplace" and "Blink" are two of my all-time favorite episodes of the new series so I'm excited to see what he'll bring to the table in this new role.
Cool, I didn't realize he was the writer for the upcoming 2-parter as well - now I'm looking forward to it even more!
Admit it – you've been out-bastarded on this one.Yes yes, I was just doing that for the benefit of the non-hardcore Whovians in this thread, as not to confuse them.
Anyway, the Moffat story is very promising indeed.
Admit it you've been out-bastarded on this one.
I seem to recall in the early days of this thread I used the very same comment on someone else, so bastard turnabout is definitely fair play.
Credit where credit is due! Having no prior exposure to Ms. Tate myself, I can't say I appreciate the hatred some people have for her - not yet at least. I can kind of see what people mean when they say she's annoying, as I could see that in her at times, but I honestly haven't found her too bad (yet) in the series - and definitely not enough to ruin things for me.
Oh, feh. Tate is fine. Her acting is fine, her character is fine, her interaction with the Doctor is well done, it's cool that she's a normal person and not a gorgeous 20-year-old. Not the greatest companion ever, but far from the worst. People should drop whatever baggage they're bringing with them, 'cause they're missing out.
Only thing is, they had Donna do the "I'm going to travel with the Doctor forever" schtick and that's never a good sign (for the character)....Anyway, the Moffat thing is pretty much the best news the show could have had, I'd say. 2010-2015 (let's assume he goes 5 years) just might be one of the top Who eras ever.
--Eric
Oh, feh. Tate is fine. Her acting is fine, her character is fine, her interaction with the Doctor is well done, it's cool that she's a normal person and not a gorgeous 20-year-old. Not the greatest companion ever, but far from the worst. People should drop whatever baggage they're bringing with them, 'cause they're missing out.
Yeah, as I said above, I don't see what the big fuss is - yet, at least...
Oooh, I like the sounds of that! Of course a lot will ride on who Tenant's replacement is (assuming he will regenerate next season as the rumors predict). I'm enjoying Tenant's performances more and more over time and he will be a hard act to follow.
For the record, Tom Baker is still my favorite Doctor though - Tenant being a respectable second.
I can only think (and hope) that Mr Moffat is going to give us a darker, less-formulaic and less campy version of The Doctor.
Anyone know if he's taking over Torchwood too, 'cause it needs some help from a decent writer...
Anyone know if he's taking over Torchwood too, 'cause it needs some help from a decent writer...
Yeah, as I said above, I don't see what the big fuss is - yet, at least...
You were being a bit wishy-washy though, which is not something I'd expect from a bastard.
Yeah, that's true. I like Tenant but he's not one of my favorites. For me, that would be Baker...Colin, that is. I thought his character pretty much defined exactly who the Doctor is; only a shame his scripts were often below par.
--Eric
You were being a bit wishy-washy though, which is not something I'd expect from a bastard.
Really? I often make a point to change my mind, be wishy-washy, contradict myself, be a hypocrite and all those wonderful bastardly things from time to time.
Colin Baker is my third favorite next to T. Baker and Tenant, and I totally agree on the script point, his Doctor had so much potential, ifg only he were better supported and the timing was better...
I remember reading that Colin Baker actually wanted his Doctor to be a "darker" Doctor but the Execsd wouldn't let him take the character in that direction. Supposedly he even wanted to wear a predominantly black outfit, similar to that of the Master's - and instead they stuck him with that colorful coat!
For the record my favorite Doctors are (from most favorite to least favorite):
- Tom Baker (enough said)
- David Tenant (very impressed with him over the past couple seasons)
- Colin Baker (a bastard, what more could you want?)
- Jon Pertwee (this was one of my favorite eras of the series - the Brigadier, the Master, the Daleks... so campy yet so good)
- Sylvester McCoy (another great Doctor with bad scripts, etc. - had so much more potential)
- Peter Davison (had big shoes to fill and did a good job all things considered, but I always found him a little too bland. The whole Kameleon thing tainted the Davison era for me as well.)
- Patrick Troughton (taking over for Harntell as the same character could have bombed and killed the show right there - he pulled it off and improved on it)
- Christopher Eccelston (liked him, but he wasn't really around very long...)
- Paul McGann (only because we never got a chance to really know him)
- William Hartnell (because he was an old fuddy-duudy)
- Tom Baker (enough said)
- David Tenant (very impressed with him over the past couple seasons)
- Colin Baker (a bastard, what more could you want?)
- Jon Pertwee (this was one of my favorite eras of the series - the Brigadier, the Master, the Daleks... so campy yet so good
)- Sylvester McCoy (another great Doctor with bad scripts, etc. - had so much more potential)
- Peter Davison (had big shoes to fill and did a good job all things considered, but I always found him a little too bland. The whole Kameleon thing tainted the Davison era for me as well.
)- Patrick Troughton (taking over for Harntell as the same character could have bombed and killed the show right there - he pulled it off and improved on it)
- Christopher Eccelston (liked him, but he wasn't really around very long...)
- Paul McGann (only because we never got a chance to really know him
)- William Hartnell (because he was an old fuddy-duudy
)Yes, and he said he'd happily play the Doctor for 50 weeks of the year and go for longer than Tom Baker! Alas....
My list:
1) Colin Baker (as discussed)
2) Tom Baker (ditto)
3) Paul McGann (instantly clicked for me--we wuz robbed. After Tenant, they really ought to go back to the eighth Doctor. Yeah, it's been 12 years or so, but he was wearing a wig anyway; they could pull it off, and besides, who knows how long he lasted in that incarnation?)
4) Christopher Eccleston (maybe not #4 in terms of the character, but raised up by the quality of the acting)
5) Patrick Troughton (fun, well done)
6) David Tenant (good job, just a bit...er, something)
7) Jon Pertwee (classic, but somehow not quite "there"...also hard to describe)
8) Peter Davison (yeah, a little bland, but what killed it for me was Tegan, who was in almost all his episodes, bleah!)
9) William Hartnel (and yeah, a fuddy duddy, but sometimes that was good
)10) Sylvester McCoy (I didn't care for his acting much, and a lot of his stories were awful)
--Eric
Davison was a bit bland, but I've got a bit of a soft spot for his time on the show to be honest.
I can vaguely remember the end of Tom Baker's run, but I can recall quite clearly the hoo-ha surrounding the regeneration and the new Doctor. As such, Davison is the first Doctor that I properly remember and it was during his tenure that I developed my love for the programme.
You never forget your first Doctor.
I can vaguely remember the end of Tom Baker's run, but I can recall quite clearly the hoo-ha surrounding the regeneration and the new Doctor. As such, Davison is the first Doctor that I properly remember and it was during his tenure that I developed my love for the programme.
You never forget your first Doctor.
Alas indeed.
My list:
1) Colin Baker (as discussed)
2) Tom Baker (ditto)
3) Paul McGann (instantly clicked for me--we wuz robbed. After Tenant, they really ought to go back to the eighth Doctor. Yeah, it's been 12 years or so, but he was wearing a wig anyway; they could pull it off, and besides, who knows how long he lasted in that incarnation?)
4) Christopher Eccleston (maybe not #4 in terms of the character, but raised up by the quality of the acting)
5) Patrick Troughton (fun, well done)
6) David Tenant (good job, just a bit...er, something)
7) Jon Pertwee (classic, but somehow not quite "there"...also hard to describe)
8) Peter Davison (yeah, a little bland, but what killed it for me was Tegan, who was in almost all his episodes, bleah!)
9) William Hartnel (and yeah, a fuddy duddy, but sometimes that was good
10) Sylvester McCoy (I didn't care for his acting much, and a lot of his stories were awful)
Ours are actually somewhat similar, just ranked for different reasons. I liked McGann as well as believe he had a lot of potential, but for the simple fact that we only saw him in one questionable movie, I simply can't rank him that high.
I guess the opposite for McCoy though - you ranked him low because of the crappy stories and such, which I agree with, but there were parts of his run that ever so slightly started to hint at the darker side of the Doctor and I just wish they would have been able to explore that more.Eccelston did bump up the acting calibre in the show, but still, was only around for one season and not as good as Tenant in my opinion. As for Tenant, he honestly only became my #2 choice this season. I've just really warmed up to him as of late and think he brings a lot to the role.
And yeah, what's up with Tegan?! She always seemed like a useless companion always getting into trouble.
I guess the same goes for Jo Grant, but she was at least cuter. As I said, big shoes to fill, and he did a great job in my opinion, but I just found him to be a bit of a softie at times.
I can vaguely remember the end of Tom Baker's run, but I can recall quite clearly the hoo-ha surrounding the regeneration and the new Doctor. As such, Davison is the first Doctor that I properly remember and it was during his tenure that I developed my love for the programme.
You never forget your first Doctor.
This is true. For me I started watching Who many years ago on PBS. It was during the Pertwee years, specifically with Sarah Jane - perhaps that's why I ranked him as high as I did. Planet of the Spiders was awesome and then seeing Baker's entire, epic run was, well, amazing - it sealed the deal for me.
I think BBC should do a "Four Doctors" special, as I believe they haven't done one yet - all I recall is "Two Doctors" (C. Baker & Troughton), "Three Doctors" (Harntell, Troughton, Pertwee) and "Five Doctors" (Hurndall, Troughton, Pertwee, T. Baker (not really!) and Davison). They could have McCoy as a bridge to the classic series, McGann since we never really got to see much of him, Eccelston as the first Doctor of the new series, and Tenant of course as the current incarnation.
Actually it was more because of the acting, but the stories pulled that down too IMO.
And yeah, what's up with Tegan?! She always seemed like a useless companion always getting into trouble.
For me it was more that she always seemed annoyed about everything and was constantly going off about stuff. It was like she hated the whole "traveling with the Doctor" thing, so her line when she left about "it's not fun anymore" struck me as really odd. "Eh? When was it ever fun for you?" was my reaction.
They could have McCoy as a bridge to the classic series, McGann since we never really got to see much of him, Eccelston as the first Doctor of the new series, and Tenant of course as the current incarnation.
You know, I was thinking the exact same thing a while ago. I don't think Eccleston will ever go near the show again though.
--Eric
I wouldn't disagree with that, but I would argue that it's tough for actors to be good when the material they're given is, well, less than good.
Still though yes, he was nothing special as far as acting goes. I just liked him for whatever reason. For me it was more that she always seemed annoyed about everything and was constantly going off about stuff. It was like she hated the whole "traveling with the Doctor" thing, so her line when she left about "it's not fun anymore" struck me as really odd. "Eh? When was it ever fun for you?" was my reaction.
Yeah, she was annoying. Too bad she wasn't the one who piloted the ship in Earthshock instead of Adric.
Yeah, but I'd ask why not? Has he honestly moved onto bigger and better things?
I heard he had a part on that "Heroes" show, but don't watch it so can't confirm. Other than that, the only item worthy of mentioning is that I heard a rumor he would be playing Destro in the new GI Joe movie - now that has to be cool. 
I wouldn't disagree with that, but I would argue that it's tough for actors to be good when the material they're given is, well, less than good.
That didn't stop Colin Baker being awesome.
Not that he was an awesome actor (though he was good), he was just THE Doctor....Still though yes, he was nothing special as far as acting goes. I just liked him for whatever reason.
You're allowed. He could even be your #1 favorite and that's fine.
Yeah, but I'd ask why not? Has he honestly moved onto bigger and better things?
He just seemed really "done" with the show from what I gathered.
--Eric
That didn't stop Colin Baker being awesome.
Heh heh, fair enough, I'll give you that.
Too bad. Ah well, we all have our reasons I suppose...
It's a shame Eccleston will probably never return, for canonical reasons, but I confess he never appealed to me. He seemed out of his depth with the genre (and, officially, the responsibilities) of the show. He is an excellent actor, but I believe that (as an actor) the Doctor was a character he struggled to understand and the situations of Doctor Who were difficult for him to relate to.
EDIT: I, however, think it's fabulous news that Moffat is taking over. He is one of the few people I wouldn't feel anxious calling a genius in television today. He is as proven as they come, and demonstrates continuing talent even after all these years.
EDIT: I, however, think it's fabulous news that Moffat is taking over. He is one of the few people I wouldn't feel anxious calling a genius in television today. He is as proven as they come, and demonstrates continuing talent even after all these years.
no Who tonight
but the Beeb have released a new "Mid Series Trail"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KPqlscQ-LI
but the Beeb have released a new "Mid Series Trail"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KPqlscQ-LI
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