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dogbone said:
That's not strictly true. England are an average team but they certainly don't defend with guts.

Anyway it's looking good for a win or draw against Croatia.

You seem to keep having a dig at England..... I don't get it, is it because you think I support them? or it because they are an easy target at the moment?

Either way, England are far from an average team and unlike australia have not conceded a goal. Anyone that thinks England are average knows next to nothing about football.

England have failed to rip teams to shreds like argentina did the other day, but they have high expectations of themselves and people like to have a dig if things 'aint rosey in the garden'.

By bigger teams i mean world cup winners such as france, italy, argentina, england and germany along with teams like spain, mexico and czech republic.

P.S You saying England are average doesn't make it so.
 
I think he means that they perform average, like France for instance does.

Looking at the quality of players in the squad, no-one could call England average. Exactly like the French.

Same goed for most of them. Like I said, only Argentina and Spain really lived up to their expectations.
 
MacsRgr8 said:
I think he means that they perform average, like France for instance does.

Looking at the quality of players in the squad, no-one could call England average. Exactly like the French.

Same goed for most of them. Like I said, only Argentina and Spain really lived up to their expectations.

Well, they have performed averagely in the two games so far, mainly due to the defensive nature of the performances from the opposing teams. France problem is that they are a little 'past it'.

Then again, Brazil have not performed well in the games so far, but they are still a top top team that have a great chance of winning. I've not been that impressed with holland either to be honest and they are a really good side.
 
I also believe the ball "past it" too... ;)

Should've been a goal IMHO.

But yeah. France should have done what the Argenties did. Remove those old grumpy men from the squad.
 
BakedBeans said:
You seem to keep having a dig at England..... I don't get it, is it because you think I support them? or it because they are an easy target at the moment?

Neither, it's actually in our Constitution that it is illegal to accept that some English sports teams are good. Don't take it personally, he's just trying to not get arrested and kicked up the bum with a giant boot.
 
Well done OZ! Definitely the #2 team of the group. If today's Japan/ Croatia game is representative of the two teams, neither one deserves moving into the second round.

BTW - anyone who saw the last Brazil game: has Ronaldo improved?! Brazil really ought to play a full match with all 11 on the pitch. What happened to the guy?!
 
yojitani said:
Well done OZ! Definitely the #2 team of the group. If today's Japan/ Croatia game is representative of the two teams, neither one deserves moving into the second round.

BTW - anyone who saw the last Brazil game: has Ronaldo improved?! Brazil really ought to play a full match with all 11 on the pitch. What happened to the guy?!
Knees and surgery put question marks as to whether he'd ever be 100% again. Robinho is the heir apparent who will probably become more apparent as the Cup progresses. Time wounds all heels.
 
Bless Marcel Desailly; his English is certainly better than my French. But does no one else think the BBC should have hired someone slightly more comfortable speaking the language than he is?! :rolleyes:
 
FleurDuMal said:
Bless Marcel Desailly; his English is certainly better than my French. But does no one else think the BBC should have hired someone slightly more comfortable speaking the language than he is?! :rolleyes:


Like my 3 year old perhaps :)

I could fart better english than he can speak :D

On second thought he is still probably better than shearer lol
 
FleurDuMal said:
Bless Marcel Desailly; his English is certainly better than my French. But does no one else think the BBC should have hired someone slightly more comfortable speaking the language than he is?! :rolleyes:
I've just put that point to Miss Jaffa Cake who came back with the rather bizarre response "Well, they've got Gary Lineker there and he can speak Spanish". :confused: ;)

I think Marcel is doing fine. The BBC have got a couple of guest pundits in for certain games, former Premiership players (who the viewing public are familiar with) who are also former players for one of the nations involved in the game they're covering. I think it's a good idea and it's nice to get their point of view on the match. And lets be honest, he's got a better mastery of the English language than Mick McCarthy or Gordon Strachan do. :D
 
Jaffa Cake said:
I've just put that point to Miss Jaffa Cake who came back with the rather bizarre response "Well, they've got Gary Lineker there and he can speak Spanish". :confused: ;)

I think Marcel is doing fine. The BBC have got a couple of guest pundits in for certain games, former Premiership players (who the viewing public are familiar with) who are also former players for one of the nations involved in the game they're covering. I think it's a good idea and it's nice to get their point of view on the match. And lets be honest, he's got a better mastery of the English language than Mick McCarthy or Gordon Strachan do. :D

Pundits/Commentators who have annoyed me so far:

-Leonardo (completely random appointment; no discernable link to English football; always states the beedin' obvious...but in very broken English)
-Mick McCarthy (the straight talkin' Northerner routine gets boring after about 30 seconds)
-David Pleat (talks absolute garbage - said today that "the angle was too wide" when in reality, the angle was too narrow; spent a whole match referring to Ecuador as first time qualifiers when they were actually in the 2002 World Cup!)
-Lee Dixon (dull)
-Steve Rider (clearly doesn't actually like football, more a golf and racing bloke)
-Stuard Pearce (he's the manager of Manchester City, so he clearly can't know much about football :p )
-Gabby Logan (although we need more female pundits, we need ones that actually like football; plus in conversation with friends I keep on calling her Gabby Roslin, which is embarrassing)
-Jonathon Pierce (more suited to commentating on some UEFA Cup qualifying game between the Estonian and Belarusian fourth placed club teams than the World Cup, like he did on Channel Five)
-Garth Crooks (terrible football journalist; as interesting as paper manufacturing)

On the other hand, Ian Wright is a legend :D
 
Jaffa Cake said:
I've just put that point to Miss Jaffa Cake who came back with the rather bizarre response "Well, they've got Gary Lineker there and he can speak Spanish". :confused: ;)

The female mind is a wonderful and complex thing, my friend :cool:
 
The commentators mentioned a moment or two ago that apparently the Togo squad may refuse to play their match against the Swiss tomorrow, in a dispute over pay. I wonder what FIFA would rule if they go through with their threat...
 
Who would have belived it....!

1-1 :eek:

EDIT:
Jaffa Cake said:
The commentators mentioned a moment or two ago that apparently the Togo squad may refuse to play their match against the Swiss tomorrow, in a dispute over pay. I wonder what FIFA would rule if they go through with their threat...
So much for having pride for playing for your nation.
If they refuse to play, they should be banned from international football for a couple of years. :mad:
That simple.
Play first, then get into a row over money.
 
MacsRgr8 said:
Who would have belived it....!

1-1 :eek:

Hurrah! :D

South Korea are kind of my second team. I don't know why. They certainly have the best fans in the world - a great assett to the World Cup. Having been to football games in China, I know exactly what its like to be amongst fans like that, and its great fun. They really, really love football in that part of the world.
 
BTW.... that's another Dutch trainer :D
And yes, South Korea have the best fans in the world, no doubt! Gr8 the way they keep singing and shouting. :)
 
Jaffa Cake said:
The commentators mentioned a moment or two ago that apparently the Togo squad may refuse to play their match against the Swiss tomorrow, in a dispute over pay. I wonder what FIFA would rule if they go through with their threat...

It's a bluff. They'll play. They're just trying to put pressure on their FA.

To be fair, if I'd been promised some sort of payment, and then they receded on the promise, I'd be pretty miffed as well.
 
Football: a funny game... innit?

Thought and said as much a page or two back, that it would be an interesting game. Good on the Koreans.
 
Watching the footie on Univision has been a blast as the pundits and commentators are just great. It really gives the impression of a carnival event, which in football terms, it is. Complete contrast to what I remember of English commentaries, and gary catalan nice boy Linekar trying to work out what the hell Gordon Strachan was talking about
 
MacsRgr8 said:
So much for having pride for playing for your nation.
If they refuse to play, they should be banned from international football for a couple of years. :mad:
That simple.
Play first, then get into a row over money.
Their coach said they were loaded on the bus. I'm sure they'll play. But what a scandal if they don't. France and the Swiss tied at 1 point each, both with GDs @ 0 with no one but Togo to play. :eek:
 
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