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The old Intel model is almost 300% of Max for gaming FPS
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Most people don’t play game with mac just because their mac doesn’t let them to play.
And if, the 16 gb of ram for gpu and cpu weren't enough. It would swap and stuttering because of slow reloading.
Apple released this 16 gb version only because users should buy 32 or 64 gb versions. The 16 gb version was loaded with 12-13 gbytes only because i had a few browser tabs open. Where is the Apple magic about the unify ram? It's acting similar to a windows pc/laptop which is normally (the version which are a little bit higher priced) not sharing ram with gpu and cpu. This m1 pro/max is a trap beacuse the specs are not good enough below 3850 Euros.
Apple released this 16 gb version only because users should buy 32 or 64 gb versions. The 16 gb version was loaded with 12-13 gbytes only because i had a few browser tabs open. Where is the Apple magic about the unify ram? It's acting similar to a windows pc/laptop which is normally (the version which are a little bit higher priced) not sharing ram with gpu and cpu. This m1 pro/max is a trap beacuse the specs are not good enough below 3850 Euros.
Or you could look at all the benchmarks showing the MBP beating the competition in render/output times and basically matching beating the 18 core iMac Pro. Do you ever give up? There have been a bunch of tests done already showing that even the base model 14" absolutely flies. Nobody is buying these for pure GPU performance, they are buying them for professional workflows, something you clearly know nothing about Mr/Ms "I open 400 tabs and this computer sucks waaaaah, my desktop has a 3090 and 5900 guys its so fast".
Finally a good heater / frying device.
I like multipurpose gadgets.
Once it can make a coffee, unattended, we are golden
In life, everyone can’t have everything you want, when you want it. I love my M1 max especially compared to the my old 16” i9. The i9 was horrible when it came to fan noise and battery life. It’s kinda like when I went from a card to a Lincoln. Are there some thing that Ford does better, sure, but besides the half a pound weight difference and feeling chunkier the M1 just feel like a more quality machine. If I wanted thin and light I would get a M1 air, but I want a machine that lasts all day, doesn’t throttle, has a awesome screen and doesn’t burn a whole in my leg or set my couch on fire. Docare about gaming on Mac, no, because there aren’t many Mac games and haven’t been many for the 12 years I’ve owned macs so I’ve never expected it to game and for that I have a PS5. I use photoshop, final cut etc and for those uses the M1 max is pretty awesome. Oh did I mention it didn’t make much noise? And gets as warm as my old pro max when you leave it on a charger for a little for too long?
Are these two trollish new members the same person?
You didn't get the real meaning of my reply? I was trolling the troll. I personally got the M1 Pro 14" and absolutely love it.
For any laptop, it is only good for first few months. Once it gets dust in the fan and everywhere inside the laptop then noise and heat will come.
It's trivial to clean this out and be back to new performance again though. Dust is not permanent.
It is very hard without breaking it, welcome to open the MacBook Pro case by yourself.
Compressed air through the vents would be better than nothing - in my eyes though it's easy enough to just get the correct tool from iFixit and pop the bottom cover off. Takes like five minutes total to remove it, clean the dust from the radiators and put it back on. No more difficult than changing your air filter in your car.
Really? I've opened every single MBP I've ever owned yearly to clean the dust out. Remove screws and there cover snaps off. It may be intimidating to do it for the first time but it requires no other skills than the ability to unscrew a few screws and follow directions on how to pop the retaining clips.
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I would open it for cleaning. But i would remove the battery connector firs and hit the power button to remove all electrical charge from the components. I want not risk a short curcuit because of condensed water.
@fs454
I would open it for cleaning. But i would remove the battery connector firs and hit the power button to remove all electrical charge from the components. I want not risk a short curcuit because of condensed water.
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I bought a 32 GPU core Max to develop stuff in Unity. Mostly non-gaming applications that use game technologies, eg I am obsessed with a realtime 3D fluid simulation. But I am bothered when I use too many watts or generate too much heat and noise, so I decided to compromise slightly on total performance by using the Max for this purpose rather than my desktop PC with 2080ti.
I am very happy with the results. Some slightly over the top comparisons to the 3080 might leave some people with other needs a bit disappointed I suppose, but for my purpose the M1 Max has achieved exactly the level of GPU compute performance that I was hoping for. Yay! And Unity development is certainly an intended purpose for this machine, with Unity featuring in the short hype video Apple released.
I am very happy with the results. Some slightly over the top comparisons to the 3080 might leave some people with other needs a bit disappointed I suppose, but for my purpose the M1 Max has achieved exactly the level of GPU compute performance that I was hoping for. Yay! And Unity development is certainly an intended purpose for this machine, with Unity featuring in the short hype video Apple released.
mine is a maxed out Max with 64gb ram.
Same with unreal engine via Twinmotion.
I am looking to get into unity, so great to hear it works well.
I also agree it is not at 3080 level and I can see this in the FPS with Twinmotion [nearly a third less against my desktop 3080ti], but I guess the point is that it runs real time at a good FPS, and is a small laptop. The fans do kick in after a minute or so, but no way the heat of the I9.
Twinmotion is not an optimised app for M btw. So I have been very impressed by this laptop.
The people on this thread who are being negative really have no idea what they are talking about or are simply paid trolls.
Well it works very well for my particular uses. I feel compelled to say this based on the wide range of expectations and huge variations in what people use game engines for, including the choice of different scriptable render pipelines in Unity. So if I make broad sweeping statements there is a fair chance some people wont find it too hard to contradict my claims when it comes to very specific scenarios.
At least there are apple silicon versions of the Unity editor these days, which helps quite a bit with things like script compilation time. Its still relatively early days for this so there are a few bugs here and there but some of them will be squashed quite quickly and I'd describe the overall experience as great.
If I am remembering correctly then I think Epic have said they will in future enable Unreal Engine games to compile to apple silicon versions, but that they dont currently have plans to make the actual Unreal Engine editor available in apple silicon form, so it will still be running via Rosetta 2.
This video is much more than just gaming performance. The MacBook Pro is not designed for gaming. The CPU benchmark blows intel out of the park or knocks it out of the water
The intel cpu is extremly old 14 nm tec:
www.intel.de
The world is spinning further, regardless Apple was using old crap for there previous mac book gen.
Compare the M1 10 c version with 12900HK:
Core i9-12900HK
Single core: 1.851 points
Multicore: 13.256 points
Apples M1 Max
Single core: 1.785 points
Multicore: 11.968 points
The newest Intel gen is faster than M1 Max and is not soldered not upgradeable ram and ssd and can run x86 code natively without this rosetta crap which is big downside of this overpriced apple hardware.
Intel® Core™ i9-9880H Prozessor (16 MB Cache, bis 4,80 GHz) – Produktspezifikationen | Intel
Intel® Core™ i9-9880H Prozessor (16 MB Cache, bis 4,80 GHz) Kurzübersicht über Spezifikationen, Funktionen und Technik.
www.intel.de
The world is spinning further, regardless Apple was using old crap for there previous mac book gen.
Compare the M1 10 c version with 12900HK:
Core i9-12900HK
Single core: 1.851 points
Multicore: 13.256 points
Apples M1 Max
Single core: 1.785 points
Multicore: 11.968 points
The newest Intel gen is faster than M1 Max and is not soldered not upgradeable ram and ssd and can run x86 code natively without this rosetta crap which is big downside of this overpriced apple hardware.
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If only you'd spin away from this Apple forum. The Apple silicon uses far less power and delivers the same performance on both battery and wired. Those PC laptops throttle quickly and perform abysmally when not plugged into the wall with a massive adapter. Go look up that 3080 vs M1 gaming comparison on battery power. The PC gets 30fps on battery and the MBP gets 90. These are BALANCED computers that do everything well. I'd much rather have a laptop that gets decent battery life and performs similarly than something that absolutely sucks on battery power and requires me to plug it in all the time to get any performance out of it.The intel cpu is extremly old 14 nm tec:
Intel® Core™ i9-9880H Prozessor (16 MB Cache, bis 4,80 GHz) – Produktspezifikationen | Intel
Intel® Core™ i9-9880H Prozessor (16 MB Cache, bis 4,80 GHz) Kurzübersicht über Spezifikationen, Funktionen und Technik.
The world is spinning further, regardless Apple was using old crap for there previous mac book gen.
Compare the M1 10 c version with 12900HK:
Core i9-12900HK
Single core: 1.851 points
Multicore: 13.256 points
Apples M1 Max
Single core: 1.785 points
Multicore: 11.968 points
The newest Intel gen is faster than M1 Max and is not soldered not upgradeable ram and ssd and can run x86 code natively without this rosetta crap which is big downside of this overpriced apple hardware.
Not to mention that most people here (like myself) much prefer MacOS and the Apple ecosystem which means that a switch to a full windows setup isn't preferred, no matter the hardware. I love iCloud integration and how streamline it makes my entire digital life. I use my windows desktop for windows apps and gaming and that's it. Everything else I use my MBP for and much prefer the UI and overall experience. PLEASE MOVE ON.