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iPhone 14/Plus The only reason for all the hate the 14 plus is getting.

John981 said:
The main reason I‘m negative towards it is that it makes zero sense in the European market. And no, I‘m not complaining about exchange rates.

It costs more than the iPhone 13 while not improving on it in any meaningful way. It‘s even missing what was arguably the main feature of the product presentation (given the title of the keynote), satellite emergency calls.

So while I think there‘s a discussion to be had about getting the regular 14 in the US, you‘d have to be properly ignorant to buy one in Europe. They don‘t make any sense over a 13 / 13 Pro since you can get both of these models on discount while getting the same or even more features.
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Perhaps you should be "complaining" about the exchange rates as that is a reason the iPhone 14 is higher priced than the 13.

In Germany, for example, a 128GB iPhone 14 is €834 (excluding VAT) which at the current exchange rate is equal to around $820 USD. This is actually slightly lower than the $829 U.S. price (excluding sales tax or VAT).

When the 128GB iPhone 13 launched last year, it was priced at €749 (excluding VAT) which at the time was around $876 USD. The iPhone 14 is actually lower priced in USD than the 13 was but the exchange rate resulted in a higher euro price.
 
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Vazor said:
In the real world basically no one cares about what phone you have.
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People’s egos and trying to validate a decision on a forum for whatever reason other than attention for making such a decision, sad really. SMH.
 
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bobjonesco said:
People trying to justify buying the 14 pro max instead.

Just because the PM has the most stuff, doesn’t mean it’s the best phone for other peoples use cases.

I really don’t need promotion for reading books.

Couldn’t care less for an extra camera for the 3 pics I take every month.

Oh, it weighs less? Great!

Oh it’s cheaper? Perfect.

Oh, the battery lasts even longer than the most expensive model? Awesome!

I just hope people won’t call me out on the street when they see I only paid for a 2-camera phone. So embarrassing.
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You do you, OP! Who cares what people are saying? You're the one who's going to be using the phone every day. Make sure you get the one that fits your need. I'm excited to finally have a non-pro large screen iPhone to recommend to family members who don't need the Pro features.
 
pdxmatts said:
You mean don’t need stainless steel siding, not aluminum 😉 You can also add, don’t need dynamic island showing half of the pill in videos and games that have aspect ratio larger than 16.9
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Apple SW and HW engineers were too busy patting themselves on the back that they collectively forgot about how intrusive DI is in certain circumstances compared to the notch. 😝
 
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pdxmatts said:
You mean don’t need stainless steel siding, not aluminum 😉 You can also add, don’t need dynamic island showing half of the pill in videos and games that have aspect ratio larger than 16.9
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Ah, correct - stainless in the 14 Pro line.

The dynamic island is not anything I would use.
Same with my Macbook Pro that has the useless touch bar which I never use....
 
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bobjonesco said:
People trying to justify buying the 14 pro max instead.

Just because the PM has the most stuff, doesn’t mean it’s the best phone for other peoples use cases.

I really don’t need promotion for reading books.

Couldn’t care less for an extra camera for the 3 pics I take every month.

Oh, it weighs less? Great!

Oh it’s cheaper? Perfect.

Oh, the battery lasts even longer than the most expensive model? Awesome!

I just hope people won’t call me out on the street when they see I only paid for a 2-camera phone. So embarrassing.
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I totally agree. Tomorrow mine arrives to replace my XR. I take pictures all the time and they are fantastic, so fancier camera is not needed. The lighter weight is a plus!
 
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In my country, most authorised resellers already discounted the price of the 13 PM to that or an iPhone 14 Plus. So people here don't care about the return of the Plus model.
 
slplss said:
Well, everyone needs their reasons to justify a purchase, I agree with yours. I’d say main dealbreaker for phones today is the 120hz refresh screen or higher. Once you to that way, it’s hard to go back.
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I dunno, I have an iPad Pro with promotion, and I don’t really see a difference when I use my wife’s iPad Air 4. Never had a phone with it, but I don’t get the hype.
 
Is there really a lot of hate on the 14 Plus? I don’t sense it. The only thing people were influenced with was with that supply chain rumors that implied the 14 Plus is not selling well and people were jumping on the bandwagon rationalizing that rumor. But I don’t really feel “hate” per se on the product.

I still predict the 14 Plus will be selling really well, and become the best selling iPhone.
 
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Lefteous said:
It's a bit sad that upgrading my iPhone 8 plus to the iPhone 14 plus would mean I'd loose the telephoto lens.
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2x regular digital zoom on these modern phones are quite good, with the ISP and machine learning. The only annoying part is the missing 50mm portrait mode due to the lack of actual telephoto lens.
 
Outside of Europe and its collapsing economy, many people are buying iPhone 14 Plus. Customers around the world simply appreciate a larger display iPhone at $899.

This is exactly the same way XR sold itself. Fewer cameras but a larger display compared to iPhone X. Nobody clamoured for iPhone X or scavenged resellers looking for iPhone X in late 2018.
 
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Vazor said:
In the real world basically no one cares about what phone you have.
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On the contrary. What phone you have may decide where you are on the social standing of your peers. This is worse in Asia imo (personal bias here), where brand and social status go hand in hand.
 
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JPack said:
Outside of Europe and its collapsing economy, many people are buying iPhone 14 Plus. Customers around the world simply appreciate a larger display iPhone at $899.

This is exactly the same way XR sold itself. Fewer cameras but a larger display compared to iPhone X. Nobody clamoured for iPhone X or scavenged resellers looking for iPhone X in late 2018.
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Yeah. Most western YouTubers and commenters poo pooed the XR, yet it became the best selling model on its release year.
 
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bobjonesco said:
I just hope people won’t call me out on the street when they see I only paid for a 2-camera phone. So embarrassing.
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Right, I don't get this mentality either. It has become a status symbol for some people, but don't let them bother you.

Also, it's not like the non-pros take bad pictures either. I have the 13, and my brother and his wife have the 13 Pro. We recently went on a trip to Hawaii and have a shared album with our photos, including some night mode shots. You honestly cannot tell who took which one without looking at the metadata. They were surprised mine look just as good as theirs and felt somewhat duped into thinking they needed the Pro in order to take good pics.

*** I'm not trying to discredit the Pro, it does take better pictures in certain situations. But for most people who simply do point-and-shoot, the regular is probably fine if they don't need the telephoto lens or ProRAW.
 
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John981 said:
The main reason I‘m negative towards it is that it makes zero sense in the European market. And no, I‘m not complaining about exchange rates.

It costs more than the iPhone 13 while not improving on it in any meaningful way. It‘s even missing what was arguably the main feature of the product presentation (given the title of the keynote), satellite emergency calls.

So while I think there‘s a discussion to be had about getting the regular 14 in the US, you‘d have to be properly ignorant to buy one in Europe. They don‘t make any sense over a 13 / 13 Pro since you can get both of these models on discount while getting the same or even more features.
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Because you’ll get more lost in Europe? 😂
 
iStorm said:
Right, I don't get this mentality either. It has become a status symbol for some people, but don't let them bother you.

Also, it's not like the non-pros take bad pictures either. I have the 13, and my brother and his wife have the 13 Pro. We recently went on a trip to Hawaii and have a shared album with our photos, including some night mode shots. You honestly cannot tell who took which one without looking at the metadata. They were surprised mine look just as good as theirs and felt somewhat duped into thinking they needed the Pro in order to take good pics.

*** I'm not trying to discredit the Pro, it does take better pictures in certain situations. But for most people who simply do point-and-shoot, the regular is probably fine if they don't need the telephoto lens or ProRAW.
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Maybe I’ll glue two hundred dollars bills to the back of the phone, so they can see that I could have bought a PM but didn’t.
 
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John981 said:
The main reason I‘m negative towards it is that it makes zero sense in the European market. And no, I‘m not complaining about exchange rates.

It costs more than the iPhone 13 while not improving on it in any meaningful way. It‘s even missing what was arguably the main feature of the product presentation (given the title of the keynote), satellite emergency calls.

So while I think there‘s a discussion to be had about getting the regular 14 in the US, you‘d have to be properly ignorant to buy one in Europe. They don‘t make any sense over a 13 / 13 Pro since you can get both of these models on discount while getting the same or even more features.
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Yes.
That’s the problem with Apple in general in last years.
A lot of features missing.
It’s like I bought the series 6 watch for the Apple fitness and until this day it didn’t came out in my country
 
bobjonesco said:
People trying to justify buying the 14 pro max instead.

Just because the PM has the most stuff, doesn’t mean it’s the best phone for other peoples use cases.

I really don’t need promotion for reading books.

Couldn’t care less for an extra camera for the 3 pics I take every month.

Oh, it weighs less? Great!

Oh it’s cheaper? Perfect.

Oh, the battery lasts even longer than the most expensive model? Awesome!

I just hope people won’t call me out on the street when they see I only paid for a 2-camera phone. So embarrassing.
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I need 120hz and the brightness personally but I am tempted to get one for the lesser weight.

Dynamic island isn't a game breaker for me nor are the cameras, or always on
 
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