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The Palm Pre's UI is peerless in its class.
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I am looking forward to getting one as well.
This is why the iPhone is great solution for many.
I don't see the Pre working as seamlessly.
You keep mentioning this "desktop-level multitasking". Care to elaborate on how that is different from other kinds of multitasking and how the Pre implements it?
Agreed. Although I wouldn't call it the ugliest, it could be better... not sleek enough for me, but the UI is wicked. trumps the iPhone IMO. easily.
If the pre was coming out in Canada around the same time as the new iPhone i'd have a real choice on my hands.
Some people have objected to the Pre's UI colors, etc...
Does anyone know if Palm plans to allow the UI to be skinnable?
It'd be an easy way to make everyone happier.
Does anyone know if Palm plans to allow the UI to be skinnable?
It'd be an easy way to make everyone happier.
We're not talking about a desktop replacement and to be honest, I don't need multitasking on my phone. There are functions that if they worked in the background, i.e., instant messaging, would increase the iPhone. People get hung up on multitasking without realizing that for a phone there's little need.
Well technically isn't that any Operating System? An OS's job is to run applications, the iPhone and Pre do that. I can't see why that would fade.
neither phone is being marketed as a desktop replacement and most people I know wouldn't want to use either device as such either. Perhaps functionally speaking the PRE does that better but honestly 99% of the consumers who buy either phone won't be ditching their computer because they now have a PRE.
The facebook thing is really overstated in its usefulness. The problem is that a lot of facebook users have hundreds of friends and with the way the facebook API is, you cannot edit how you import them. Meaning that you must sync your entire facebook list, leaving your phone with people who you don't reallyt want on there at all.
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Too bubbly, too silly looking for me.
Mebbe it's just my eyes, but all those flat grey panels are hard to read.
I also don't like how the screen is x big, but some of the actual windows take up far less space.
And, this is probably just me also, but the bevel effects and small drop shadows are very confusing.
Mebbe it's just my eyes, but all those flat grey panels are hard to read.
I also don't like how the screen is x big, but some of the actual windows take up far less space.
And, this is probably just me also, but the bevel effects and small drop shadows are very confusing.
Wow. Thanks for the screen shots!
As much as I love my iPhone, Palm has always done some things in an intuitive way that the iPhone just lacks. For example, the need to get out of an application to go back to the Home Screen to get to settings is just ridiculous. I want to be able to adjust my brightness, my Wi-Fi settings, my Location settings in the app in which I am using the feature. Email is another one...I shouldn't have to go back to settings to turn on and off accounts and make other email changes.
That being said, time will tell whether Palm has mastered some of the syncing issues that have made the iPhone such a great phone for non-technical users...will the music and apps data sync seamlessly? I haven't read anything specific on that lately.
As much as I love my iPhone, Palm has always done some things in an intuitive way that the iPhone just lacks. For example, the need to get out of an application to go back to the Home Screen to get to settings is just ridiculous. I want to be able to adjust my brightness, my Wi-Fi settings, my Location settings in the app in which I am using the feature. Email is another one...I shouldn't have to go back to settings to turn on and off accounts and make other email changes.
That being said, time will tell whether Palm has mastered some of the syncing issues that have made the iPhone such a great phone for non-technical users...will the music and apps data sync seamlessly? I haven't read anything specific on that lately.
I would love for the iPhone to get a task application like the one that's on the Pre. I am very bad at remembering to do things, and it seems like that would help me A LOT.
I disagree. I need to know ASAP which virtual drinks people are sending me and which Disney villain I am...
Way too much going on in those screenies. Whats wrong with keeping it simple and elegant. Instead its all bubbly and fisherprice like?
If iPhone is a glorified launcher, then surely the Pre is a glorified browser.
There are only two applications on the Pre,
The legacy Palm emulator - which is a true native-code app,
and the Browser, which serves up multi-pages of web-apps. The Pre is not so much multi-tasking as multi-paging.
Palm's WebOS solution is clever and ballsy. It allows them to catch up quickly.
But it is a huge compromise.
With web applications, every action is less efficient that a native code equivalent. Which means apps are slower and use more battery power.
And there is a huge class of applications which will not ever be implemented as web apps.
But there are certainly things Apple could learn from Palm's model. The ability to locally cache web-pages is worth copying. As is a better system-wide notification system. Which is currently a weakness of the iPhone.
But Apple could do these things with relative ease.
It would be much harder for Palm to enable native code applications - or create an SDK with the same elegance as Cocoa.
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Apologies if it came across that way. I was merely attempting to point out the absurdity of the statement and the disappointment that will no doubt ensue.
The very fact that statement was in the argument showed it wasn't too well thought out.
It's not a personal attack. More so, a reality check. Calvin seems to believe this phone is the be all and end all and will make his life 10-15x better. A reality check is definitely needed.
Why must one phone be better than the other, why must one fail. They both can be great at succesful. I have no financial interest in palm or apple and I could care less which sells more. I have an iPhone 3g and enjoy it despite it's obvious flaws.
I like the palm pre, it's specs are amazing. I used to use a treo 650 before the iPhone and was suprised that the iPhone couldn't so some things that my treo did. I don't understand how people want the pre to fail. If it fails or not how does it affect you. The iPhone is a great device except for the little things it can't do. It's a freaking joke that I can't go from a links in gmaps to safari and back to gmaps without pressing the home screen etc. Enjoy what you have and stop bashing a phone that you won't buy and that has no effect on you.
I like the palm pre, it's specs are amazing. I used to use a treo 650 before the iPhone and was suprised that the iPhone couldn't so some things that my treo did. I don't understand how people want the pre to fail. If it fails or not how does it affect you. The iPhone is a great device except for the little things it can't do. It's a freaking joke that I can't go from a links in gmaps to safari and back to gmaps without pressing the home screen etc. Enjoy what you have and stop bashing a phone that you won't buy and that has no effect on you.
Because most people don't think that way and feel the need to feel superior over others for whatever reason. In this case, it's a phone/mobile device.
Sad, isn't it?
The UI does look good, my biggest hesitation with the Pre is the slide out keyboard, but I have never had good luck with any slide phone.
Agree with simple and elegant.
Interfaces like the Pre look cool at first, but can be tiring to use after the newness has worn off.
I don't like the Palm Pre but never once said I wish it to fail. I'm weighing up the pros and cons of the device and we're all having a conversation about it since some of us may well switch out our iPhones for one. Therefore, to switch, the Pre needs to be better than the current experience we are getting with the iPhone.
I've not read anything about wishing the Pre to fail. And the little dig ("I thought people on here were adults"), was childish in itself.
It's a forum to chat about these exact things. If you don't like it, don't come in the thread/forum.
Especially in the iPhone/iPod forums you're dealing with a lot of the younger people [says me at the grand old age of 25
]. Sensible sane discussion is mostly out of the question unfortunately This thread is laughably typical.